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FFVII_REMAKE
12/29/17 9:30:29 PM
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People will now be able to freely smoke marijuana in California without being asked about it. Personally, just as long as these people buy these drugs and teens are doing it "because it's kool bruh", that's all I care about. Same with vaping.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 9:31:06 PM
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Historically, the nylon industry.
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.
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MedeaLysistrata
12/29/17 9:46:05 PM
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weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.
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C_Pain
12/29/17 9:46:55 PM
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its a dangerous drug
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KillerKhan420
12/29/17 9:48:09 PM
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It's a slippery slope. I don't want kids with developing minds to get their hands on it. With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 9:50:46 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.

Arguably, the exact opposite would happen. As is, it's easier for a kid to get weed than to get beer.
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FFVII_REMAKE
12/29/17 9:50:58 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.


No it doesnt. Prove it.

C_Pain posted...
its a dangerous drug


No it's not. "it makes u relax ur mind n stuff. it good 4 u"

KillerKhan420 posted...
It's a slippery slope. I don't want kids with developing minds to get their hands on it. With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.


I don't see how that's any different from kids getting their hands on alcohol and cigarettes which have been around for centuries. They should do it, it will help them focus while studying.
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Antifar
12/29/17 9:52:05 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals
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Antifar
12/29/17 9:52:57 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.

I have some bad news for you about the availability of marijuana as things stand
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 9:54:12 PM
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Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals

oooooo.
good call.
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Alakazamtrainer
12/29/17 9:55:39 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals

oooooo.
good call.

Add big tobacco
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hortanz
12/29/17 9:55:49 PM
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look at killerkhan's name again and then ask yourself if you think he's being sincere
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glitteringfairy
12/29/17 9:57:19 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.

Arguably, the exact opposite would happen. As is, it's easier for a kid to get weed than to get beer.

Ain't that the truth. I could get weed easy in high school. Beer on the other hand was a bitch to get.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 9:57:56 PM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals

oooooo.
good call.

Add big tobacco

No.
Tobacco companies will be the first to dogpile into nationally-legal cannabis.
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Mistere Man
12/29/17 10:00:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obz1fyDQz5w


If it was totally legal we wouldnt have this.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:01:03 PM
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Mistere Man posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obz1fyDQz5w

Is that a thing I can actually buy, with money?
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/29/17 10:03:58 PM
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A lot of big time companies would go out of business and pharmaceutical shit would lose a shit ton of money. They dont want that. Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie. I could go on and on. Once you grow up and get out of the I wanna get high legalize it stage you start realizing why it isnt legal and why its so looked down on in the government and all that shit.

But once all these old farts move on and the younger crowd jumps in, itll be perfect. This country can make so much damn money and hemp alone would save so much money on a shit ton of different things.
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r4X0r
12/29/17 10:05:23 PM
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The pharmaceutical industry doesn't want it legalized, and if you think left or right is innocent in having their hand in THAT cookie jar, you're fooling yourself.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:05:59 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie.

You seem to vastly overestimate the miracle panacea value of cannabis.
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DragonGirlYuki
12/29/17 10:09:58 PM
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The same problems as alcohol, mostly people driving high. Other than that not really anything else.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:12:32 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
The same problems as alcohol, mostly people driving high.

Did a field-test ever emerge for pot?
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pres_madagascar
12/29/17 10:12:51 PM
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Alakazamtrainer posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals

oooooo.
good call.

Add big tobacco

Actually most big tobacco companies are already ready to start mass producing weed cigarettes in the event of federal legalization. And a lot of weed smokers also smoke cigarettes after smoking their weed or mix them together.
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ZeldaMutant
12/29/17 10:13:51 PM
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One of Marijuana's greatest advantages is its distinctive smell. As long as it remains illegal, cops can detain anyone for prolonged amounts of time by claiming they smell marijuana.

The drug being so widespread also gives boundless oppoturnities to arrest minority citizens.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:19:47 PM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Nowadays, it's just conservative biblethumpers.

Also alcohol and pharmaceuticals

oooooo.
good call.

Add big tobacco

Actually most big tobacco companies are already ready to start mass producing weed cigarettes in the event of federal legalization. And a lot of weed smokers also smoke cigarettes after smoking their weed or mix them together.

The only reason Marlboro Sativa isn't a thing, right now, is because federal prohibition has effectively made the industry cash-only in the places where it's state-legal.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/29/17 11:29:34 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie.

You seem to vastly overestimate the miracle panacea value of cannabis.

I watched one of my best friends go through cancer and when he finally decided to smoke weed it made him a completely different person. Maybe not the best words but it basically brought him back to life. And its not like he was even getting like super crazy high or anything. He would just smoke a little a day.

I can throw out some more examples but I gotta be careful with what I say, people love modding me.
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Dark_SilverX
12/29/17 11:30:48 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.

This. Dude smoked some weed then he decided to play with a bear and died
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DifferentialEquation
12/29/17 11:31:08 PM
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It should be completely legalized along with other drugs.
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/29/17 11:31:13 PM
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And my bad I dont feel like editing, once the shit becomes more and more legal then the more money and time they can put into it making it legit. Theyre already taking out all of the stuff that makes you high and solely using the stuff that benefits you. Shits crazy, man. Its just a plant. A plant.
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Third_Eye
12/29/17 11:33:11 PM
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i know this smoker once who was LAZY... and like... the children... and like something about cocaine and heroin
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:33:57 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie.

You seem to vastly overestimate the miracle panacea value of cannabis.

I watched one of my best friends go through cancer and when he finally decided to smoke weed it made him a completely different person. Maybe not the best words but it basically brought him back to life. And its not like he was even getting like super crazy high or anything. He would just smoke a little a day.

In the end, pot doesn't really cure anything, apart from maybe epilepsy.
However, making terminal illness fantastically less shitty is something that definitely needs more attention.
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KingCrabCake
12/29/17 11:34:28 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
It's a slippery slope. I don't want kids with developing minds to get their hands on it. With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.


Like alcohol and cigarettes and prescription medication
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KingCrabCake
12/29/17 11:36:48 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie.

You seem to vastly overestimate the miracle panacea value of cannabis.


Plenty of cases and evidence where marijuana has reduce the need for dangerous prescription drugs.
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Gamer99z
12/29/17 11:51:49 PM
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Nothing. All drugs should be legal, regulated, taxed, with there being wider and more affordable rehabilitation centers and other means of getting help for addictions.

Take the money away from the cartels, the gangs, the scumbags who push it onto kids, aka the people who commit legitimate crimes like forced human drug trafficking, murdering, intentionally mixing more dangerous stuff in with the drugs or making them poorly causing people to accidentally overdose, etc. etc. etc. And then use the tax money gained from the legal drug sales to put more money into our healthcare system, rehabilitation programs, and our education system where we actually teach the kids the dangers of drugs. Not some Reefer Madness shit where they act like if you take a hit of a joint one time you're going to go insane or like those dog commercials, etc. Teach people the reality of drugs, what they do to you, how addiction really is, and not demonizing drug users like they're subhuman.
And to go even further into a larger issue, put money into our abysmal mental health system, getting better at identifying and helping the people most susceptible to addiction before they get to that point to begin with. Even in schools having councilors have better training being able to communicate with the teachers v, and work to try to help students showing at risk warning signs not even just for substance abuse but for mental health issues or anything of the sort.
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Rika_Furude
12/29/17 11:53:44 PM
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drugs ruin lives and families and its a gateway drug to something worse. was this topic really necessary?
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Talks
12/29/17 11:54:51 PM
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Gamer99z posted...

let me guess, you wrote this high out of your mind on dangerous drugs, didn't ya, druggie. how much did you feed your addiction today?
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:55:39 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
its a gateway drug to something worse

It's a gateway drug to Funyuns and pork rinds, at best.
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Sonic Cannon
12/30/17 12:03:10 AM
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...
MedeaLysistrata posted...
weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.


No it doesnt. Prove it.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1336774/table/tbl1/
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:07:15 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
FFVII_REMAKE posted...
MedeaLysistrata posted...
weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.


No it doesnt. Prove it.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1336774/table/tbl1/

See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syd_Barrett

Psychedelics can, and will, spark full-on schizophrenia if your brain is tilting that direction.
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KingCrabCake
12/30/17 12:07:36 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
drugs ruin lives and families and its a gateway drug to something worse. was this topic really necessary?

Lmfao grandma over here
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thanosibe
12/30/17 12:12:49 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why take 15 pills every day when you could just eat a cookie.

You seem to vastly overestimate the miracle panacea value of cannabis.
Lots of people on CE do. The medicinal uses of the plant and smoking it are two entirely different things that people here can't seem to grasp. Saying smoking pot cures disease is about as ridiculous as saying drinking whiskey cures internal infections.
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Kamala_Harris
12/30/17 12:13:59 AM
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I'm bi polar and used to smoke weed all the time (on top of other drugs)

weed is terrible for me and makes me really psychotic, so it's not for everyone >_>
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Zodd3224
12/30/17 12:17:51 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.

Arguably, the exact opposite would happen. As is, it's easier for a kid to get weed than to get beer.

Ain't that the truth. I could get weed easy in high school. Beer on the other hand was a bitch to get.

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gatorsPENSbucs
12/30/17 12:25:30 AM
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Damn, where were you living? We could shoulder tap for beer or have an older sibling get it easily, but weed was definitely hard to find.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:28:04 AM
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thanosibe posted...
Saying smoking pot cures disease is about as ridiculous as saying drinking whiskey cures internal infections.

Much like pot, it's plausible, but the important part is that both make actively getting dead vastly less terrible at the time.

The exact instant I'm diagnosed with terminal cancer, all I'm going to do is pilfer my last days being drunk or stoned.
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thanosibe
12/30/17 12:39:31 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
thanosibe posted...
Saying smoking pot cures disease is about as ridiculous as saying drinking whiskey cures internal infections.

Much like pot, it's plausible, but the important part is that both make actively getting dead vastly less terrible at the time.

The exact instant I'm diagnosed with terminal cancer, all I'm going to do is pilfer my last days being drunk or stoned.
And I get that. I advertise it in my signature. It's just these topics praising pot and downplaying the negatives of addiction to it are from the same poster triggered about people consuming alcohol. Lots of CE's real contrary about drugs I've noticed.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:43:10 AM
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thanosibe posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
thanosibe posted...
Saying smoking pot cures disease is about as ridiculous as saying drinking whiskey cures internal infections.

Much like pot, it's plausible, but the important part is that both make actively getting dead vastly less terrible at the time.

The exact instant I'm diagnosed with terminal cancer, all I'm going to do is pilfer my last days being drunk or stoned.
And I get that. I advertise it in my signature. It's just these topics praising pot and downplaying the negatives of addiction to it are from the same poster triggered about people consuming alcohol. Lots of CE's real contrary about drugs I've noticed.

So what the hell are we flamewarring about?
Were we even flaming at all?
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thanosibe
12/30/17 12:46:12 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
thanosibe posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
thanosibe posted...
Saying smoking pot cures disease is about as ridiculous as saying drinking whiskey cures internal infections.

Much like pot, it's plausible, but the important part is that both make actively getting dead vastly less terrible at the time.

The exact instant I'm diagnosed with terminal cancer, all I'm going to do is pilfer my last days being drunk or stoned.
And I get that. I advertise it in my signature. It's just these topics praising pot and downplaying the negatives of addiction to it are from the same poster triggered about people consuming alcohol. Lots of CE's real contrary about drugs I've noticed.

So what the hell are we flamewarring about?
Were we even flaming at all?
I'm not :-)
I was agreeing with your ascertation to gator who thinks edibles magically replace medication for people.
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Zodd3224
12/30/17 12:47:24 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Damn, where were you living? We could shoulder tap for beer or have an older sibling get it easily, but weed was definitely hard to find.


Mass. I could get weed in minutes any day from multiple people while in school or out of school. Alcohol was a pain in the ass. No siblings for me, we had to beg others siblings and they werent always reliable or charged fees.
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TheCyborgNinja
12/30/17 12:49:21 AM
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...
MedeaLysistrata posted...
weed makes some people psychotic. but i guess that's not a reason to deprive everyone of it.


No it doesnt. Prove it.

C_Pain posted...
its a dangerous drug


No it's not. "it makes u relax ur mind n stuff. it good 4 u"

KillerKhan420 posted...
It's a slippery slope. I don't want kids with developing minds to get their hands on it. With it getting legal it could be widely available to people who don't have no business with it, like kids.


I don't see how that's any different from kids getting their hands on alcohol and cigarettes which have been around for centuries. They should do it, it will help them focus while studying.

Yes it fucking can. I'm bipolar and got a prescription before that was known (for joint pain) and went batshit crazy. Don't make such ass-fuck dumb retorts when you clearly don't fucking know jack shit. Fuck.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:55:49 AM
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thanosibe posted...
I was agreeing with your ascertation to gator who thinks edibles magically replace medication for people.

Ah.
The actual problem is that North America has an endemic iodine and magnesium deficiency, combined with the continent having a bit too much lead.
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