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Leviamon
12/28/17 11:34:23 PM
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isn't that a bit contradictory?
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FairyLeviathan
12/28/17 11:35:41 PM
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literally who
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Leviamon
12/28/17 11:36:19 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
literally who

the entire GOP for one.

the pro-life party that loves the idea of killing brown people
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CarlGrimes
12/28/17 11:41:17 PM
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Ayn Rand was a hack. The only good thing she did was inspire a great video game series.
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FairyLeviathan
12/28/17 11:41:48 PM
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"I admire Margaret Sanger" -2016 Democratic Presidential Nominee
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Antifar
12/28/17 11:42:47 PM
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ilfait
12/28/17 11:45:12 PM
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I didn't know that there was a connection. I love Rand novels, but I'm not religious.
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Antifar
12/28/17 11:46:32 PM
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ilfait posted...
I didn't know that there was a connection. I love Rand novels, but I'm not religious.

There's a significant overlap in American conservatism between stated Christian faith and belief in Rand's individualist ideology
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ilfait
12/28/17 11:51:58 PM
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Antifar posted...
ilfait posted...
I didn't know that there was a connection. I love Rand novels, but I'm not religious.

There's a significant overlap in American conservatism between stated Christian faith and belief in Rand's individualist ideology

Really? Do you have a source?
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Antifar
12/28/17 11:57:09 PM
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CarlGrimes
12/28/17 11:58:21 PM
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Antifar posted...
ilfait posted...
Really? Do you have a source?

This is the Speaker of the House, one of the highest ranking, most prominent members of the Republican party
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/7-ways-paul-ryan-revealed-his-love-for-ayn-rand.html
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/08/22/paul-ryan-defends-poverty-reform-efforts-catholic-nun
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/paul-ryans-faith-based-lesson/2012/04/27/gIQAH76TlT_story.html?utm_term=.cc1271fc3d18

One guy.
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Skye Reynolds
12/29/17 12:02:25 AM
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A lot of Christians like atheist or anti-theist artists.

Just because we don't see eye to eye on issues of religion doesn't mean that we can't enjoy good music, good comedy, and so forth.
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ChromaticAngel
12/29/17 12:06:20 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
One guy.

It's not just one guy. Ayn Rand basically created a cult around Atlas Shrugged and some people who were in the cult have gotten into very powerful positions.
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ilfait
12/29/17 12:07:44 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
A lot of Christians like atheist or anti-theist artists.

Just because we don't see eye to eye on issues of religion doesn't mean that we can't enjoy good music, good comedy, and so forth.

You'd make a terrible SJW.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/29/17 12:09:20 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
A lot of Christians like atheist or anti-theist artists.

Just because we don't see eye to eye on issues of religion doesn't mean that we can't enjoy good music, good comedy, and so forth.

Except Ayn Rand's ideology is entirely and fundamentally incompatible with Christianity and Christian values
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ilfait
12/29/17 12:13:02 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
A lot of Christians like atheist or anti-theist artists.

Just because we don't see eye to eye on issues of religion doesn't mean that we can't enjoy good music, good comedy, and so forth.

Except Ayn Rand's ideology is entirely and fundamentally incompatible with Christianity and Christian values

But you show potential.
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Skye Reynolds
12/29/17 12:18:10 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Except Ayn Rand's ideology is entirely and fundamentally incompatible with Christianity and Christian values


And Lemmy Kilmister made good music. What's your point?
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ultimate reaver
12/29/17 12:20:29 AM
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Rand's stuff is incredibly self-affirming that it's okay to be super greedy. All because doing so will somehow help everyone around you inadvertently due to... Reasons.
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KrustyTheClown
12/29/17 12:30:53 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Except Ayn Rand's ideology is entirely and fundamentally incompatible with Christianity and Christian values


And Lemmy Kilmister made good music. What's your point?

I remember when you used to just make shitty posts on PWB. You should go back to that.
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Skye Reynolds
12/29/17 12:41:43 AM
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Speaking of pro wrestling, Jim Cornette hates anything having to with religion and he's one of the most entertaining wrestle talk personalities.

I don't listen to him on his ridiculous assumptions about religion, but I enjoy hearing him talk about the territory days or what he sees as being wrong with the current state of pro wrestling. I don't always agree with him, but I'm almost always entertained by him.

It's not like I make a list of musicians, actors, authors, etc., and only partake in the media featuring like-minded individuals.
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ScazarMeltex
12/29/17 11:14:44 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
A lot of Christians like atheist or anti-theist artists.

Just because we don't see eye to eye on issues of religion doesn't mean that we can't enjoy good music, good comedy, and so forth.

Except Ayn Rand's ideology is entirely and fundamentally incompatible with Christianity and Christian values


Yeah the entire ideology essentially comes down to "fuck you, got mine". Not something i'm entirely sure Jesus was willing to get behind.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/29/17 11:17:38 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Rand's stuff is incredibly self-affirming that it's okay to be super greedy


yup, her novels are the essentially dissertations on the rationalization of selfishness. she's an abhorrent person.

also, she spent the final years of her life on welfare. she's a massive hypocrite.
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CookieMarvin
12/29/17 12:43:32 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Rand's stuff is incredibly self-affirming that it's okay to be super greedy


yup, her novels are the essentially dissertations on the rationalization of selfishness. she's an abhorrent person.

also, she spent the final years of her life on welfare. she's a massive hypocrite.


this is what really upsets me. she wrote all that piss, then died on welfare in public housing. unbelievable.

16-BITTER posted...
You might have come to the same conclusion if you'd lived under the boot of communism. Such a lack of empathy from a person who claims to abhor selfishness.

lol
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Notti
12/31/17 5:39:31 AM
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FLUFFYGERM
12/31/17 5:41:00 AM
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People who bash Ayn Rand are not intelligent enough to understand the writing.
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luigi13579
12/31/17 6:43:44 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
also, she spent the final years of her life on welfare. she's a massive hypocrite.

To be fair, that smacks a bit of the "you criticize capitalism, yet participate in capitalism" gotcha argument.

But yeah, I otherwise agree.
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Notti
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