Current Events > PC police attempt to ban subject from schools shot down by court

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arizona-cant-ban-mexican-american-studies-anymore-judge-says_us_5a442f28e4b025f99e199496

A federal judge on Wednesday put the final nail in the coffin of Arizonas Republican-backed law banning Mexican-American studies classes in Tucson public schools.

The final judgment issued by U.S. District Judge A. Wallace Tashima after a two-week bench trial last summer caps a seven-year legal battle over conservative attempts to restrict what books could be used or subjects taught in Tucsons majority-Latino schools.

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms. To shut the classes down, they spearheaded the passage of a state law in 2010 that prohibited classes aimed at students of a specific ethnicity, that fostered racial discord or that encouraged the overthrow of the U.S. government.

In Wednesdays judgment, however, Tashima wrote that conservative lawmakers passed the ethnic studies restrictions not for a legitimate educational purpose, but for an invidious discriminatory racial purpose and a politically partisan purpose.

No officials may carry out any part of the law, the judgment says. Tashima ruled in August that the law violates the students First Amendment rights by restricting information and the 14th Amendments equal protection clause by targeting Latinos.

Tashimas judgment also sticks the state of Arizona with the bill for the plaintiffs legal fees. The court has yet to determine the amount.

The Arizona attorney generals office did not immediately return a call requesting comment about whether the state plans to appeal the ruling.

After seven years, the state can request that the permanent injunction be lifted, independent of the appeal process.

Tucsons school board voted in 2012 to abandon its Mexican-American studies program after Arizona officials threatened to withhold 10 percent of the districts state funding. They plucked copies of seven books used in the canceled courses from classrooms, fueling complaints from educators across the country that the state was in effect banning books.

Amid the legal controversy, several of the teachers in the program left Tucson or stopped working for the school district.

But the publicity generated by the court battle spurred efforts in other states to create ethnic studies programs modeled on or influenced by the Tucson classes.

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inb4theusualsuspects
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Antifar posted...

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms.

... What
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Isolated Incident #3452322221
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Well that's not what I expected.

(Good ruling though).
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Antifar posted...

Mexican-American studies classes

Why is that something that needs to be banned?
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Antifar posted...

Mexican-American studies classes

Why is that something that needs to be banned?

Because it's Arizona.
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bump
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I imagine the typical attempts at rationalization against the subject are 'focus on important subjects instead, STEM up, etc' but that still doesn't make a ban the logical response here
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Antifar posted...

A federal judge on Wednesday put the final nail in the coffin of Arizonas Republican-backed law banning Mexican-American studies classes in Tucson public schools.

AZ Republicans: "How will people know the superiority of our culture if we teach about other cultures?"

lol republicans
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Please tell me there's more to this case than that. I don't want to believe they were truly trying to ban these classes
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It's actually quite amazing that the class was allowed to exist, when the content wouldn't be on the mandated standardized tests at the end of the school year.

ChromaticAngel posted...

inb4theusualsuspects

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How many other of dese types of incidents are going on in America right now and why is cnn not talking about it
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emblem boy posted...

Please tell me there's more to this case than that. I don't want to believe they were truly trying to ban these classes

They were
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/us/08ethnic.html
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Antifar posted...

emblem boy posted...

Please tell me there's more to this case than that. I don't want to believe they were truly trying to ban these classes

They were
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/us/08ethnic.html

it was a big deal when they first did it - I've donated to Librotraficante a few times

http://www.librotraficante.com/
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CableZL posted...

Antifar posted...

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms.

... What

it's a really clunky sentence. i had to read it a few times to get it too
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This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

There is no official language in the US, at the federal level. Does Arizona have one?

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

you are useless

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averagejoel posted...

CableZL posted...

Antifar posted...

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms.

... What

it's a really clunky sentence. i had to read it a few times to get it too

I got it immediately, what made it confusing? Is it just their titles?

'lawmakers lead by tom and john, who later succeeded tom, complained about shit'
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Balrog0 posted...

averagejoel posted...

CableZL posted...

Antifar posted...

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms.

... What

it's a really clunky sentence. i had to read it a few times to get it too

I got it immediately, what made it confusing? Is it just their titles?

'lawmakers lead by tom and john, who later succeeded tom, complained about shit'

it's just long and full of commas
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Questionmarktarius posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

There is no official language in the US, at the federal level. Does Arizona have one?

It doesn't have to have an official language. English is recognized as the main American language and is even thought in schools around the world so that communication with the West is possible.

It's common sense. You learn the major language of the country that you're in if you want to succeed. If not then whatever, stay as an ingredient for the salad bowl.
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averagejoel posted...

Balrog0 posted...

averagejoel posted...

CableZL posted...

Antifar posted...

Conservative lawmakers led by then-Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne and then-state Sen. John Huppenthal, who later succeeded Horne, derided Tucsons Mexican-American studies curriculum as an anti-American politicization of public school classrooms.

... What

it's a really clunky sentence. i had to read it a few times to get it too

I got it immediately, what made it confusing? Is it just their titles?

'lawmakers lead by tom and john, who later succeeded tom, complained about shit'

it's just long and full of commas

I understood the sentence.

I don't understand the argument of the conservative lawmakers in regards to banning Mexican-American studies classes.
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That propaganda will live on : (
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CrimsonRage posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

Lucky for them there's literally hundreds of places in the southwest where they can get by completely in Spanish.

Lucky for me I can literally get by with English in all of the U.S. :/
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averagejoel posted...

it's just long and full of commas

it is only 2 commas to set aside the appositive statement idk man

CableZL posted...

I understood the sentence.

I don't understand the argument of the conservative lawmakers in regards to banning Mexican-American studies classes.

oh yeah, totally incomprehensible lol
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I don't see what the big deal is - all humanities-related topics are fairly useless in the real world right now. I don't see why any reasonable person would want to add to the humanities curriculum at the grade school level over more STEM-related classes. The fact that it's 'Mexican-American' is obviously gonna make people put on their politicized hats but come on, it's all equally pointless honestly.
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masticatingman posted...

I don't see what the big deal is - all humanities-related topics are fairly useless in the real world right now. I don't see why any reasonable person would want to add to the humanities curriculum at the grade school level over more STEM-related classes.

I can certainly see the argument about humanities-related topics being fairly useless in the real world. But to say that they're anti-American and should be banned? That's pretty ridiculous.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

There is no official language in the US, at the federal level. Does Arizona have one?

It doesn't have to have an official language. English is recognized as the main American language and is even thought in schools around the world so that communication with the West is possible.

It's common sense. You learn the major language of the country that you're in if you want to succeed. If not then whatever, stay as an ingredient for the salad bowl.

What does history class have to do with English class?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

There is no official language in the US, at the federal level. Does Arizona have one?

It doesn't have to have an official language. English is recognized as the main American language and is even thought in schools around the world so that communication with the West is possible.

It's common sense. You learn the major language of the country that you're in if you want to succeed. If not then whatever, stay as an ingredient for the salad bowl.

What does history class have to do with English class?

Also, I'd be willing to bet those Mexican-American studies classes were taught in English.
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Arizona is a garbage state so far as its treatment of Latinos and Mexican-descent people.
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CableZL posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

There is no official language in the US, at the federal level. Does Arizona have one?

It doesn't have to have an official language. English is recognized as the main American language and is even thought in schools around the world so that communication with the West is possible.

It's common sense. You learn the major language of the country that you're in if you want to succeed. If not then whatever, stay as an ingredient for the salad bowl.

What does history class have to do with English class?

Also, I'd be willing to bet those Mexican-American studies classes were taught in English.

this, what a weird deflection
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

I'm confused what learning English has to do with this story
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emblem boy posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

This is fine as long as they are forced to learn English too. If you come here and never learn another language except your ethnic language, you are useless to most people who speak English.

I'm confused what learning English has to do with this story

Never mind i read that wrong. I thought that they were going to teach those students in Spanish so that they don't have to learn English to get an education.

My bad.
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CableZL posted...

masticatingman posted...

I don't see what the big deal is - all humanities-related topics are fairly useless in the real world right now. I don't see why any reasonable person would want to add to the humanities curriculum at the grade school level over more STEM-related classes.

I can certainly see the argument about humanities-related topics being fairly useless in the real world.

I don't. I understand how they're fairly useless career-wise, but they're good classes for understanding society as we know it. Students need to learn about this type of stuff too to be well-rounded and well-adjusted members of society. Even career-wise, it can inspire interest in fields like sociology, psychology, and teaching.
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Ivynn posted...

I don't. I understand how they're fairly useless career-wise, but they're good classes for understanding society as we know it. Students need to learn about this type of stuff too to be well-rounded and well-adjusted members of society. Even career-wise, it can inspire interest in fields like sociology, psychology, and teaching.

That's a fair point. I was most certainly referring to careers, but disregarding what you stated here in my post.
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