Current Events > Here's an actual real and authentic shield from ancient Rome

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That is amazing

Also, Fishy is a douche nozzle
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It's amazing how angry people get when they're wrong
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I have to laugh at neo-Nazis that get buttmad about Swastikas being Indian.

FUCKING LOL

Shield looks badass too.
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I didnt even make a claim, you just act like a lame douche ahahaha
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thanks man appreciate it :)
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Zikten posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

Isn't the swastika also found in feudal Japan symbols as well?

a version of it is used in modern Japanese maps of towns, to mark where buddhist temples are

also the symbol was on a pokemon card once, and people went insane

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB146V7QXXXXXXwaXXXq6xXFXXXj/Naruto-Neji-Hyuga-Neji-Ning-Vezes-Parte-I-T-shirt-Top-de-Lycra-de-Algod-o.jpg_640x640.jpg
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Leave it to CE to take what could have been an interesting topic om archeology and shields, and instead turn it into a boring topic on swastikas and nationalism.

The design on the shield looks alot more elaborate than i expected.
And how the hell did it stay intact?
With the colour in great shape, no less
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Leave it to CE to take what could have been an interesting topic om archeology and shields, and instead turn it into a boring topic on swastikas and nationalism.

The design on the shield looks alot more elaborate than i expected.
And how the hell did it stay intact?
With the colour in great shape, no less

yeah its cool as fuck
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Kasperia posted...

Very few Buddhists in Japan

Literally 100+ millions

Only on CE would you have people legitimately argue about the origins of the Swastika.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Leave it to CE to take what could have been an interesting topic om archeology and shields, and instead turn it into a boring topic on swastikas and nationalism.

The design on the shield looks alot more elaborate than i expected.
And how the hell did it stay intact?
With the colour in great shape, no less

It wasn't intact, it had to be reconstructed
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Kasperia posted...

Swastika is an Indian symbol that Europeans stole along with the word "Aryan".

That's not true. It's actually appeared across Europe, India, and Africa. Generally, it's a pretty ambiguous symbol; the only thing that people tend to agree on is that it's some sort of sun symbol. Other than that, it's pretty dependent on context.

However, it probably shares a common ancestry. The symbol has been used from the Celtic world to India, but like many other parts of culture and tradition from Europe and the surrounding areas, it shares a lot of common elements regardless of where it is.

The word Aryan is a little different as it actually refers to Indo-Iranian people, but was adopted in the early 20th century as a term to describe the mythical descendants of the perfect humans from Atlantis that were descended from the gods. The latter has absolutely nothing to do with the former. I can honestly say I'm not even sure what the common ancestry is.

VoightKent posted...

Kasperia posted...

No, Swastika originated in India

You do realize that the Indo-Europeans got all the way to Northern India right?

They did not come from Europe. Indo-European is a language family btw.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Kasperia posted...

Very few Buddhists in Japan

Literally 100+ millions

Japan's total population is something over 126 million, with more than half the country being Shinto, so no.

Dash_Harber posted...

Kasperia posted...

Swastika is an Indian symbol that Europeans stole along with the word "Aryan".

That's not true. It's actually appeared across Europe, India, and Africa. Generally, it's a pretty ambiguous symbol; the only thing that people tend to agree on is that it's some sort of sun symbol. Other than that, it's pretty dependent on context.

However, it probably shares a common ancestry. The symbol has been used from the Celtic world to India, but like many other parts of culture and tradition from Europe and the surrounding areas, it shares a lot of common elements regardless of where it is.

The word Aryan is a little different as it actually refers to Indo-Iranian people, but was adopted in the early 20th century as a term to describe the mythical descendants of the perfect humans from Atlantis that were descended from the gods. The latter has absolutely nothing to do with the former. I can honestly say I'm not even sure what the common ancestry is.

It originally came from India, that's the point. "Aryan" is not used to describe Indo-Iranian people. It was a term coined by Indians and is of Sanskrit origin. Aryan was pretty much synonymous with "Indian" until the Middle Ages, when Hindu became more popular. Germans used this word to refer to the Indo-Europeans. Though, they only considered Europeans as pure Aryans and the rest as "impure", including Slavs.

Kasperia posted...

Japan's total population is something over 126 million, with more than half the country being Shinto, so no.

For some reason I thought the population was around 225 mil.

Never the less;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan#Religion

Upper estimates suggest that 8496 percent of the Japanese population subscribe to Shinto as its indigenous religion (50% to 80% of which considering degrees of syncretism with Buddhism, shinbutsu-shg)

So like 50 - 70 million.

"Very few"

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Kasperia posted...

Japan's total population is something over 126 million, with more than half the country being Shinto, so no.

For some reason I thought the population was around 225 mil.

Never the less;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan#Religion

Upper estimates suggest that 8496 percent of the Japanese population subscribe to Shinto as its indigenous religion (50% to 80% of which considering degrees of syncretism with Buddhism, shinbutsu-shg)

So like 50 - 70 million.

"Very few"

I doubt that all of those are strictly Buddhist, and not simply identify as such on paper because their ancestors were. From what I've heard from a few Japanese people, they are not very religious and a lot of the temples and sacred places are mere tourist attractions.

It's the opposite. Japanese people do not like to say they are religious, but will still pray at a shrine on the way to work.

Anyone got a link to the article that i assume was written when the shield was presented?
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Bio1590 posted...

Only on CE would you have people legitimately argue about the origins of the Swastika.

Clearly you have never visited stormfront
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Anyone got a link to the article that i assume was written when the shield was presented?

Well, this is the page from Yale about it:

https://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/5959
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Fishy posted...

I'm sorry

I know
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Fucking white people always have to make shit confusing as fuck so they can feel special.

Um yeah Im descendent from the perfect ppl that lived in some random mountains and btw they were Atlantisese
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frozenshock posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

Anyone got a link to the article that i assume was written when the shield was presented?

Well, this is the page from Yale about it:

https://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/5959

no notes on how it managed to survive without the wood or even the paint rotting away?
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ROBANN_88 posted...

frozenshock posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

Anyone got a link to the article that i assume was written when the shield was presented?

Well, this is the page from Yale about it:

https://artgallery.yale.edu/collections/objects/5959

no notes on how it managed to survive without the wood or even the paint rotting away?

I read somewhere else that it was because it was basically buried in the sand, which prevented moisture
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