Current Events > A roast is probably the most boring fucking dish on the planet...

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HighOnSolar posted...

i hope these 3 pages of posts are full of people telling you of the magic that is a good roast

>not using 50 posts per page
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CensorErik posted...

einegutePerson posted...

re-reading some of these posts

i think some CEmen are under the impression that roasts are done submerged in some sort of solution?

I find so many people think meat has to be cooked with liquid. It's amazing. I sell this chick a boneless prime rib and she's like, "What do you think, 4 cups of chicken broth and some root vegetabls in a crockpot for 3 hours?" I'm like..."Why get prime rib if you're going to use a crockpot? Why chicken broth? Are you pranking me?" She just sorta laughed and asked how long a different roast the same size would take in a crockpot. I knew what she was doing, but I told her it'd be roughly 2 1/2 hours. Sure enough she bought the prime rib. Some people can't be guided nor corrected.

I had a rant about this on /r/slowcooking a while ago. Some people think if you just toss a bunch of meat and vegetables in a slowcooker it will turn out wonderful no matter what.

When it comes to people talking about cooking, this phenomenon is everywhere:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

i hope these 3 pages of posts are full of people telling you of the magic that is a good roast

>not using 50 posts per page

imagine being so barbaric that you don't use 20/20 smh
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pinky0926 posted...

I had a rant about this on /r/slowcooking a while ago. Some people think if you just toss a bunch of meat and vegetables in a slowcooker it will turn out wonderful no matter what.

I did that once, then my meat just tasted like carrots :(
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A roast is so simple and so tasty, learn to cook, moron

@CensorErik posted...

Post 24 doesn't even make sense. Is that an actual belief?

It's a pretty accurate one, tbh. I mean, yeah, a lot of the world's greatest chefs are white, and I'm sure most white people in the south season their food well, but take it from someone whose family primarily lives in rural Minnesota: "White people seasoning" is definitely real.
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Gafemage posted...

@CensorErik posted...

Post 24 doesn't even make sense. Is that an actual belief?

It's a pretty accurate one, tbh. I mean, yeah, a lot of the world's greatest chefs are white, and I'm sure most white people in the south season their food well, but take it from someone whose family primarily lives in rural Minnesota: "White people seasoning" is definitely real.

It's awful in the UK too. Restaurants seem to tone down the flavour and spices for white people because for a lot of people anything more than cracked pepper is too hot.
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HighOnSolar posted...

teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

i hope these 3 pages of posts are full of people telling you of the magic that is a good roast

>not using 50 posts per page

imagine being so barbaric that you don't use 50/50 smh

fix'd
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Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.
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teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

i hope these 3 pages of posts are full of people telling you of the magic that is a good roast

>not using 50 posts per page

imagine being so barbaric that you don't use 50/50 smh

fix'd

there is something wrong in your GENES brah
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1/10 troll
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I Like Toast posted...

Tote had to switch to his alt to troll op because he already blew his load over seeing FF redux post. Lmao. What a clown.

Who's Tote's alt?

I agree with TC. Roast pisses me off, just like hamburger helper.
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uwnim posted...

Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.

more or less agree with this, at least from my experience
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Awww look he used both accounts to reply to the same post. Look at the hate filled coward. He's so cute when he's angry :D
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I Like Toast posted...

Awww look he used both accounts to reply to the same post. Look at the hate filled coward. He's so cute when he's angry :D

Oh I see. You think I'm Tote's alt. That's pretty funny. I'd like you to explain how you came up with that idea.

kirbymuncher posted...

uwnim posted...

Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.

more or less agree with this, at least from my experience

Alright here's the "trick" with a roast and I almost guarantee that all the naysayers are not grasping this part.

You catch the drippings and turn that into gravy, probably by having garlic and onion/shallots in the base of the tray.

That's it. That's all there is to it. But think about it. All that fat, and bone marrow, with the garlic and onions and rosemary/thyme/whatever you seasoned with...it all breaks down and collects into an intense fond that transforms into a complex sauce when you deglaze it later with some red wine or whatever. Then when it comes time to serve you pour that over the meat and all the flavour you were looking for is there.

Too many people make a roast dinner and throw out the drippings. Then to make the gravy they boil up some water and some store bought gravy powder, and after all that they wonder why it's dull. You're missing the best part of the entire thing if this is you.
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JE19426 posted...

Oh I see. You think I'm Tote's alt. That's pretty funny. I'd like you to explain how you came up with that ide

You admitting it and me tagging you with your main so I don't make the mistake of ever taking you seriously
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I Like Toast posted...

You admitting it and me tagging you with your main so I don't make the mistake of ever taking you seriously

I'm pretty sure I've never even jokingly claimed to be Tote's. I've certainly never seriously claimed since it isn't true.

pinky0926 posted...

kirbymuncher posted...

uwnim posted...

Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.

more or less agree with this, at least from my experience

Alright here's the "trick" with a roast and I almost guarantee that all the naysayers are not grasping this part.

You catch the drippings and turn that into gravy, probably by having garlic and onion/shallots in the base of the tray.

That's it. That's all there is to it. But think about it. All that fat, and bone marrow, with the garlic and onions and rosemary/thyme/whatever you seasoned with...it all breaks down and collects into an intense fond that transforms into a complex sauce when you deglaze it later with some red wine or whatever. Then when it comes time to serve you pour that over the meat and all the flavour you were looking for is there.

Too many people make a roast dinner and throw out the drippings. Then to make the gravy they boil up some water and some store bought gravy powder, and after all that they wonder why it's dull. You're missing the best part of the entire thing if this is you.

Yup, people who just throw out the drippings break my heart just a little every time I see it.

Good beef needs nothing imo.

Question TC are you buying your beef from a place called Kroger?

For some reason their beef has 0 flavor I cannot figure out how they do it.

Walmart may have the same problem, but I havent bought beef from them in a while so I cant be sure.
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HighOnSolar posted...

teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

teepan95 posted...

HighOnSolar posted...

i hope these 3 pages of posts are full of people telling you of the magic that is a good roast

>not using 50 posts per page

imagine being so barbaric that you don't use 50/50 smh

fix'd

there is something wrong in your GENES brah

nah man, I got royalty, got loyalty inside my DNA
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pinky0926 posted...

Too many people make a roast dinner and throw out the drippings.

Also known as the worst kind of people
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uwnim posted...

Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.

This is exactly how I feel.
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pinky0926 posted...

I don't care what your taste buds are like, if you think a roast is flavourless you're doing it wrong, end of discussion.

Like seriously you're slow roasting a fatty poultry - bones and all - in herbs and spices for hours, there's just no way that will ever be flavourless unless you do a bad job.

I aint talkin poultry.
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"Eat to live; don't live to eat,"
Benjamin Franklin

Meat is essential. Eating isn't supposed to be about having fun, but rather than having a good time. Plain roast (lightly seasoned) with plain, white rice sounds good to me.
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I have my tricks for good roasts, but I'd rather have smoked meat any day.
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uwnim posted...

Flavors cant travel through the meat and meats tend to be pretty bleh tasting. The outside will taste good if seasoned right, but the inside of any large chunk of meat will suck.

if the inside of the meat is flavorless, that's generally a sign that it's been overcooked

solution: stop overcooking your meat

also you are wrong - other seasonings, sure, but salt chemically changes the meat depending on how much and where you've got it
so actually, flavor SHOULD go through the meat if you're doing things right
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I always thought I was a p bad cook until I read this topic, like was it a secret that you use the drippings in a gravy?
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It's flavorless because you don't season it correctly and/or don't sear the piece right.
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Roasts are good. Meatloaf is more boring
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DonaldClinton posted...

Roasts are good. Meatloaf is more boring

I have had some good meatloafs in my life.
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The23rdMagus posted...

I have my tricks for good roasts, but I'd rather have smoked meat any day.

I, too, prefer my meat smoked.
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Mistere Man posted...

DonaldClinton posted...

Roasts are good. Meatloaf is more boring

I have had some good meatloafs in my life.

Yeah really. Meatloaf is a great example of how anyone can make a good dinner or destroy it. There's an endless amount of ways to make meatloaf amazing. Unfortunately there's just as many ways to ruin it.
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