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YoshitoKikuchi 12/20/17 3:15:17 PM #1:	https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/obamacare-repeal-tax-bill-trump-243912 The sweeping Republican tax bill on the verge of final passage would repeal the individual mandate in 2019, potentially taking millions of people out of the health insurance market. On top of that, the Trump administration has killed some subsidies, halved the insurance enrollment period, gutted the Obamacare marketing campaign, and rolled out a regulatory red carpet for skimpy new health plans that will change the insurance landscape in ways that are harmful to former President Barack Obamas signature health care law. None of these individually represent a death blow. But in aggregate, the past year adds up to a slow, stealthy erosion of the law. They obviously couldn't kill it, so they're trying to starve it slowly," said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.), who sits on the House Ways and Means Committee, which helped write the original law. Thoughts? --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:892577942] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/obamacare-repeal-tax-bill-trump-243912 The sweeping Republican tax bill on the verge of final passage would repeal the individual mandate in 2019, potentially taking millions of people out of the health insurance market. On top of that, the Trump administration has killed some subsidies, halved the insurance enrollment period, gutted the Obamacare marketing campaign, and rolled out a regulatory red carpet for skimpy new health plans that will change the insurance landscape in ways that are harmful to former President Barack Obamas signature health care law. None of these individually represent a death blow. But in aggregate, the past year adds up to a slow, stealthy erosion of the law. They obviously couldn't kill it, so they're trying to starve it slowly," said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.), who sits on the House Ways and Means Committee, which helped write the original law. Thoughts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sauceje 12/20/17 3:30:36 PM #2:	From the moment politics became a pissing match between two sides, it was ruined. It's not about and should never be about "undoing whatever the other side did!!!!", it should be for the good of your goddamn country. Fuck this bipartisan bullshit. --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead <cite>sauceje posted [p:892578798] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>From the moment politics became a pissing match between two sides, it was ruined. It's not about and should never be about "undoing whatever the other side did!!!!", it should be for the good of your goddamn country. Fuck this bipartisan bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 12/20/17 4:30:17 PM #3:	sauceje posted... From the moment politics became a pissing match between two sides, it was ruined. It's not about and should never be about "undoing whatever the other side did!!!!", it should be for the good of your goddamn country. Fuck this bipartisan bullshit. When did things go wrong? --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:892582178] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>sauceje posted...</cite> <quote>From the moment politics became a pissing match between two sides, it was ruined. It's not about and should never be about "undoing whatever the other side did!!!!", it should be for the good of your goddamn country. Fuck this bipartisan bullshit.</quote> When did things go wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0sHBK__GB 12/20/17 4:31:15 PM #4:	Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance --- Go Pack Go! <cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted [p:892582243] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/20/17 4:33:09 PM #5:	Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance You know health care and insurance is going to get worse, right? It's not going to start recovering from Obamacare being picked apart. The positives will be eroded, the negatives will get worse, and more negatives will arise, and rates will go up --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:892582355] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance</quote> You know health care and insurance is going to get worse, right? It's not going to start recovering from Obamacare being picked apart. The positives will be eroded, the negatives will get worse, and more negatives will arise, and rates will go up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0sHBK__GB 12/20/17 4:38:04 PM #6:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance You know health care and insurance is going to get worse, right? It's not going to start recovering from Obamacare being picked apart. The positives will be eroded, the negatives will get worse, and more negatives will arise, and rates will go up I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills. --- Go Pack Go! <cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted [p:892582693] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>Obamacare ended up being an interesting experiment but it ultimately caused more harm than good. I say good riddance</quote> You know health care and insurance is going to get worse, right? It's not going to start recovering from Obamacare being picked apart. The positives will be eroded, the negatives will get worse, and more negatives will arise, and rates will go up</quote> I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/20/17 4:41:47 PM #7:	Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills. You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up? --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:892582917] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills.</quote> You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/20/17 4:44:55 PM #8:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills. You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up? Lmao trolls aren't even trying anymore. Claiming you're ok with being worse off is just lazy <cite>Axiom posted [p:892583098] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills.</quote> You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up?</quote> Lmao trolls aren't even trying anymore. Claiming you're ok with being worse off is just lazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0sHBK__GB 12/20/17 4:45:11 PM #9:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills. You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up? Deductables? Yeah, sure. If it means it no insurance for those that refuse to buy it? Sure. I'm ok with paying more to keep people accountable. --- Go Pack Go! <cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted [p:892583110] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with it if that happens. Want insurance? Pay your bills.</quote> You're ok with your coverage getting worse and your deductibles going up?</quote> Deductables? Yeah, sure. If it means it no insurance for those that refuse to buy it? Sure. I'm ok with paying more to keep people accountable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/20/17 4:49:22 PM #10:	Ah, so you're just trolling. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:892583360] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>Ah, so you're just trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0sHBK__GB 12/20/17 4:51:18 PM #11:	Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw --- Go Pack Go! <cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted [p:892583479] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 12/20/17 5:00:46 PM #12:	DezCaughtIt posted... They're slowly removing the infrastructure of the ACA to make it essentially implode so they can pass whatever nonsense they come up with on the basis of "We have no choice!" --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:892583987] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>They're slowly removing the infrastructure of the ACA to make it essentially implode so they can pass whatever nonsense they come up with on the basis of "We have no choice!"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/20/17 5:00:50 PM #13:	YoshitoKikuchi posted... The sweeping Republican tax bill on the verge of final passage would repeal the individual mandate in 2019, potentially taking millions of people out of the health insurance market. Only because they'd choose not to be, because it's no longer a coerced purchase. If anything, the end of the mandate would nudge prices down for the approximately three providers left on the exchange, because they know you no longer have to do it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892583999] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted...</cite> <quote>The sweeping Republican tax bill on the verge of final passage would repeal the individual mandate in 2019, potentially taking millions of people out of the health insurance market. </quote> Only because they'd choose not to be, because it's no longer a coerced purchase. If anything, the end of the mandate would nudge prices down for the approximately three providers left on the exchange, because they know you no longer have to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/20/17 5:01:56 PM #14:	It's already pretty much repealed. Trump has been dismantling it. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:892584062] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote>It's already pretty much repealed. Trump has been dismantling it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 12/20/17 5:02:09 PM #15:	Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill. --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:892584071] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw</quote> You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/20/17 5:02:13 PM #16:	Questionmarktarius posted... If anything, the end of the mandate would nudge prices down for the approximately three providers left on the exchange, because they know you no longer have to do it. It won't. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:892584075] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>If anything, the end of the mandate would nudge prices down for the approximately three providers left on the exchange, because they know you no longer have to do it.</quote> It won't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/20/17 5:02:40 PM #17:	DezCaughtIt posted... You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill. A handout to insurance companies, sure. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892584101] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote>You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill.</quote> A handout to insurance companies, sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Y2J0sHBK__GB 12/20/17 5:04:11 PM #18:	DezCaughtIt posted... Y2J0sHBK__GB posted... Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill. Don't pay for insurance? You got it. On top of that, forcing fines on people who don't have it was an overreach of power. It was garbage. My tax dollars are fine to be used for things like roads or cops but things like YOUR insurance or YOUR cell phone? You can do without. Leave my tax money alone --- Go Pack Go! <cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted [p:892584140] in The stealt... [t:76119741]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezCaughtIt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Y2J0sHBK__GB posted...</cite> <quote>Don't see what's trolling about it. Want insurance, buy it. I'm tired of the government hand outs. Obama phones were the last straw</quote> You clearly don't know how insurance works in this country if you think the ACA was a "handout" bill.</quote> Don't pay for insurance? You got it. On top of that, forcing fines on people who don't have it was an overreach of power. It was garbage. My tax dollars are fine to be used for things like roads or cops but things like YOUR insurance or YOUR cell phone? You can do without. Leave my tax money alone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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