Current Events > Where is the outrage for Joe Biden?

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That_Happened posted...

I'm not sure where the idea came from that everyone has the exact same track record and should be treated the exact same way. Trump gets more harshly criticized because he's objectively a horrible human being. That's fair. You wouldn't see Joe Biden heavily criticized for this kind of thing but you also wouldn't see Republican John McCain criticized heavily for it because neither of them are horrible people (as far as we can tell).

If a regular CEman without a terrible moderation history posts a topic that starts an unnecessary argument, we give him the benefit of the doubt. But if Caution posts his 6th consecutive Wednesday topic that starts an unnecessary argument, and that's after his Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday were filled with the same kind of shit, then it's fair to point out the pattern and say that he's trash.

Do yourself a favor and search "Trump" under this board. I'm doing the same crap everyone else here is doing: Complaining about politics. At worst, I'm no better than the rest of the clowns here that post the same dribble. The difference is that I'm wearing a red-shirt, and they're wearing blue shirts.

Just suddenly...when you support the other side...it's more "trashy". Hmm.

If you don't like people bitching about politics, try to remain consistent and group ALL OF US under the term trashy. Not just one side.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

It's not trolling to talk about this.

There's nothing to talk about, you're making up allegations solely because his politics differ from yours.
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Bio1590 posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Just when I was starting to think you couldn't post anything more dumb...here we are.

Friendly reminder that DE is a gimmick account who has broken that gimmick on a few rare occasions before when there's no defense to Trumps actions. Such as his "what about the alt-left!?" speech following Charlottesville.

Oh I know. But even that one is a stretch considering there is no defense to what Trump legitimately said.

IIRC Trump officially said he walked in and around in his adult beauty pageants, and the allegation of him walking around in the teenage one came from one of the participants by name and a few more alleged it anonymously. While it's still a creepy and disturbing thing it's important to remember the actual statements.

That doesn't change him saying stuff like "In a few years I'll be dating you!" to a 13 year old but hey
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You're saying that Biden's creepiness should be treated the same as Trump's sexual assault allegations.

Seems dishonest to me.
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Caution999 posted...

Do yourself a favor and search "Trump" under this board. I'm doing the same crap everyone else here is doing

You accused Joe Biden of "groping multiple young girls in a creepy fashion."

This is not equal to "complaining about politics." This is you being a shit troll. Own it.
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Yeah, he has that creepy uncle syndrome. He gets way too grabby without him knowing it.
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That_Happened posted...

Caution999 posted...

Do yourself a favor and search "Trump" under this board. I'm doing the same crap everyone else here is doing

You accused Joe Biden of "groping multiple young girls in a creepy fashion."

This is not equal to "complaining about politics." This is you being a shit troll. Own it.

And people have made topics about Trump having a sexual relationship with his own daughter. What's that then?
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Caution999 posted...

That_Happened posted...

Caution999 posted...

Do yourself a favor and search "Trump" under this board. I'm doing the same crap everyone else here is doing

You accused Joe Biden of "groping multiple young girls in a creepy fashion."

This is not equal to "complaining about politics." This is you being a shit troll. Own it.

And people have made topics about Trump having a sexual relationship with his own daughter. What's that then?

Also shit trolling?

"Other people are pieces of shit just like me" is not a great defense.
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first i heard about this, one of the pics he was getting close to hilary, maybe he really wanted to get it on with her.
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Thought this was about Budden for a sec
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Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Sexual harassment allegations aren't based on what the guy does. They're based on how the woman chooses to respond to it.

Are you saying that the women who have come forward are all lying?

No, he's saying the women who have come forward wouldn't have done so if they thought the guy harassing them was attractive. That women have different standards of what counts as "harassment" and it's based less on where the guy's hands are or what he says, and more on whether the woman personally finds the guy creepy or not.

John Cena comes in for a picture and his hand wanders a little too low (let's say by accident), and the woman's response is "oh that was probably an accident" or "John Cena totally groped me!" But change John Cena to Al Franken and the woman is creeped out and starts accusing the man of sexual harassment.

That's wha tmany guys say.
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Steve Nick posted...

Someone in the same situation as Biden could be accused of sexual harassment if the women wanted to be more toxic about the situation, or if a political adversary wanted to take him down.

This here is a bad take. Addressing someone's harassing, weird behavior is not "being more toxic."

I can't speak for the women involved, but I also have eyes and can watch videos and see Biden doing weird things and what sure looks like discomfort on the faces of the girls he does weird things to. I don't need a formal accusation to think Biden is a creep.
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Antifar posted...

I can't speak for the women involved, but I also have eyes and can watch videos and see Biden doing weird things and what sure looks like discomfort on the faces of the girls he does weird things to. I don't need a formal accusation to think Biden is a creep.

There's also a world of difference between "being a creepy weirdo, a close-talker, and thinking everyone is fine with your hugs," and "sexually harassing someone."

Just because someone recoils disgusted doesn't mean anything sexual has taken place.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Sexual harassment allegations aren't based on what the guy does. They're based on how the woman chooses to respond to it.

Are you saying that the women who have come forward are all lying?

Steve Nick posted...

Biden isn't 'guilty' because nobody has rallied up a hit squad against him, or because the women in question just chose to 'deal with it' instead of make a big fuss.

Someone in the same situation as Biden could be accused of sexual harassment if the women wanted to be more toxic about the situation, or if a political adversary wanted to take him down.

Are you suggesting here that we should treat Biden as someone who has been accused of sexual assault or harassment because someone hasn't come forward yet?

It doesn't seem like you gave any attempt to actually read and understand my post.

You may want to go back and read what words I actually typed, rather than making up your own version.
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Antifar posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Someone in the same situation as Biden could be accused of sexual harassment if the women wanted to be more toxic about the situation, or if a political adversary wanted to take him down.

This here is a bad take. Addressing someone's harassing, weird behavior is not "being more toxic."

I can't speak for the women involved, but I also have eyes and can watch videos and see Biden doing weird things and what sure looks like discomfort on the faces of the girls he does weird things to. I don't need a formal accusation to think Biden is a creep.

I wasn't really implying that the woman's actions were necessarily or always 'bad'.

You chose to reach for a connotation of the word 'toxic' that, while I knew was there, didn't really intend to convey. It was an unusual word choice. I meant it in a much more neutral and 'definitional' way. I'm aware that the word toxic is a bit of a meme word that is used in different connotations these days.

I'll take responsibility for that one. I figured the misunderstanding would happen but chose not to change the word, mostly out of laziness.
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"can't defend Daddy Trump, so who to randomly whine about today?"
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Isn't this story old? Pretty sure I saw it on so called liberal media and discussed it then. Why do you even make topics Caution?
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HypnoCoosh posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

The entire Republican platform, What about...

I think it's more about the hypocrisy on the left

Of course you do...
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Caution999 posted...

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. If Trump played with a 9 year old girl's hair and put his face against hers...whoo boy - you people would be having a field day.

You people?
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Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Sexual harassment allegations aren't based on what the guy does. They're based on how the woman chooses to respond to it.

Are you saying that the women who have come forward are all lying?

Steve Nick posted...

Biden isn't 'guilty' because nobody has rallied up a hit squad against him, or because the women in question just chose to 'deal with it' instead of make a big fuss.

Someone in the same situation as Biden could be accused of sexual harassment if the women wanted to be more toxic about the situation, or if a political adversary wanted to take him down.

Are you suggesting here that we should treat Biden as someone who has been accused of sexual assault or harassment because someone hasn't come forward yet?

It doesn't seem like you gave any attempt to actually read and understand my post.

You may want to go back and read what words I actually typed, rather than making up your own version.

No, I did read your post and I'm not understanding what you are trying to convey, which is why my response contained all questions.

in this, i agree with ash. Steve to me you'r argument is that just because no one will accuse biden of sexual harassment dosent mean that he has not harrased anyone and so we should treat him as if he had
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Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Steve Nick posted...

Sexual harassment allegations aren't based on what the guy does. They're based on how the woman chooses to respond to it.

Are you saying that the women who have come forward are all lying?

Steve Nick posted...

Biden isn't 'guilty' because nobody has rallied up a hit squad against him, or because the women in question just chose to 'deal with it' instead of make a big fuss.

Someone in the same situation as Biden could be accused of sexual harassment if the women wanted to be more toxic about the situation, or if a political adversary wanted to take him down.

Are you suggesting here that we should treat Biden as someone who has been accused of sexual assault or harassment because someone hasn't come forward yet?

It doesn't seem like you gave any attempt to actually read and understand my post.

You may want to go back and read what words I actually typed, rather than making up your own version.

No, I did read your post and I'm not understanding what you are trying to convey, which is why my response contained all questions.

The point is that whether or not someone is accused of sexual misconduct, harassment, assault, or rape is often based on the woman's demeanor, rather than the man's action.

You have to assume that men are going to pursue women. Now, obviously a man can be very guilty in that regard, for doing it the wrong way, or in the wrong context. I'm not defending overly aggressive men, or work-place harassers, or outright rapists. Look outside of that narrow scope to the big picture. Every man is forced to pursue women, and in that pursuit, whether or not you get accused of something is often not based on your own actions, but the woman's attitude.

The woman gets to decide the narrative, and her word is taken as truth.
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there is plenty of outrage surrounding biden

stop being purposefully blind
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