Current Events > 2015: Man blacks out, receives blowjob, accused of sexual assault, gets expelled

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An Amherst College student blacked out, accompanied a fellow student back to her dorm room after drinking in February 2012. While he was blacked out, she performed oral sex on him.

Nearly two years later, she would accuse him of sexual assault. And under Amherst's guilty-until-proven-innocent (and even then, as we'll see, still guilty) hearing standards, the accused student was expelled.

The accused student using the pseudonym John Doe is suing the college for denying him due process. His lawyer had discovered text messages that prove the accused student did not initiate the encounter and in no way sexually assaulted the accuser. Despite this evidence, the college refused to reopen Doe's case.

K.C. Johnson, co-author of the book about the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, notes that the school has adopted the "yes means yes" definition of consent meaning someone has to ask before performing any sexual act on another person and receive an affirmative response. But the standard provides no way for accused students to prove they obtained such consent. (For that matter, given that the sexual act was performed on the accused student, was there any evidence he provided affirmative consent?)

The entire adjudication process at Amherst, revised after another student claimed the school mistreated her sexual assault accusation, was designed to find guilt, Johnson wrote. An accused student may hire an attorney, but that attorney cannot say anything during the hearing. An accused student may receive a campus "adviser" who "is not an advocate for the student." Meanwhile, the accuser's adviser is absolutely their advocate.

For Doe, his "adviser" was an administrator who lacked tenure and was trained in "social justice education." Doe was not allowed to directly cross-examine his accuser and could only write down questions for the panel to ask her, leaving no room for follow-ups. The hearing panel, meanwhile, was made up of "student life officials" and another administrators trained in "social justice education" none of whom had tenure.

This is one of the few cases where we have an actually good idea of what happened the night in question. Doe accompanied the accuser (who was Doe's girlfriend's roommate) to her dorm room. The accuser performed oral sex on a blacked out Doe (Johnson notes that even the Amherst hearing found Doe's account of being blacked out credible). Doe leaves.

The accuser said during her hearing that she only texted one friend to help her handle the assault as she felt ''very alone and confused.'' But her texts with her female friend give no indication of an assault. Rather, the accuser texted her friend ''Ohmygod I jus did something so fucking stupid''. She then proceeded to fret that she had done something wrong and her roommate would never talk to her again.

Between the encounter with Doe and the accusation nearly two years later the accuser developed new friends. And as it happens, these new friends were all ''victims' advocates.''

When Doe discovered the text messages, he presented the findings to Amherst. The school refused to reopen his case. K.C. Johnson sums up the case perfectly:

''Once again: this is a case in which an accuser misrepresented written evidence vital to her credibility, and this same material, her words, showed if anything that she initiated sexual contact against a student who even Amherst's panel described as 'blacked out.,'" Johnson wrote. ''And yet, according to Amherst, the accuser is a sexual assault 'survivor.''

The case also shows how a male student can be accused of sexual assault even if the evidence suggests he might have been the one assaulted.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/man-receives-sex-act-while-blacked-out-gets-accused-of-sexual-assault/article/2565978

Wow, wtf.
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Nothing new sadly. Not even back I'm 2015 can't remember which college it was (but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hearst) had *an article written about them about a different incident which included the line "apparently to ____ rape is so vile a crime that even innocence isn't a valid defense."

Also holy fuck at "social justice education" being a thing.
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That's terrible. If anything, she assaulted him.
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Hope he gets a nice settlement for that bs
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Terrible.
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He should file a lawsuit against the college and get those ridiculous rules overturned. On a side note, I hope the college close down for good.
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Thanks Obama.

(Not being ironic. This kind of shit actually is his fault; he directed all universities receiving Federal funds to judge defendants guilty with a preponderance of evidence, a.k.a with barely enough evidence to confirm that sexual assault could have happened)

https://www2.ed.gov/print/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201104.html
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Wait so he got raped and since she said he raped her thru just expelled him?
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Nothing new sadly. Not even back I'm 2015 can't remember which college it was (but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hearst) had *an article written about them about a different incident which included the line "apparently to ____ rape is so vile a crime that even innocence isn't a valid defense."

Also holy fuck at "social justice education" being a thing.

social justice education is just code for far left lunacy / marxism
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Mal_Fet posted...

Thanks Obama.

(Not being ironic. This kind of shit actually is his fault; he directed all universities receiving Federal funds to judge defendants guilty with a preponderance of evidence, a.k.a with barely enough evidence to confirm that sexual assault could have happened)

https://www2.ed.gov/print/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201104.html

what in the flying fuck
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Nothing new sadly. Not even back I'm 2015 can't remember which college it was (but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hearst) had *an article written about them about a different incident which included the line "apparently to ____ rape is so vile a crime that even innocence isn't a valid defense."

Also holy fuck at "social justice education" being a thing.

social justice education is just code for far left lunacy / marxism

I wanna attend that class. Is the entire curriculum "everything is okay unless someone doesn't like it or decides later that why don't like it and/or is offended by it which then makes absolutely anything anyone does heinous and terrible?"

That is just horribly worded. Fucking chocolate thing.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Nothing new sadly. Not even back I'm 2015 can't remember which college it was (but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hearst) had *an article written about them about a different incident which included the line "apparently to ____ rape is so vile a crime that even innocence isn't a valid defense."

Also holy fuck at "social justice education" being a thing.

lol "Hearst"

The H is silent. Lived in that town most of my life. In fact my last apartment was practically on the border of that campus. Grandfather was an alumnus, father taught there when I was really young. A friend of mine has been working there for I think 10+ years at this point.

This story really makes me look down on that school. It would be absolutely disgraceful for them to allow something like this to happen... and it seems like in reality they more encourage it than allow it, so no words can describe just how bad it makes them look.

I can't help but wonder how much more this guy could have done to advocate for himself and fight this. Still, I hope the backlash obliterates the school's reputation and decimates their enrollment numbers or some shit, and I actually want to get involved somehow because the outrage is more real when it's local >_>. If I was a lawyer I would be fucking all over this.
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hopefully he sues that school into bankruptcy
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That's basically textbook sexual assault on her part, honestly. Charge her.
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so basically it sounds like she raped him, then made him out to be the rapist. what a bitch. and fuck that sexist school

Mal_Fet posted...

Thanks Obama.

(Not being ironic. This kind of shit actually is his fault; he directed all universities receiving Federal funds to judge defendants guilty with a preponderance of evidence, a.k.a with barely enough evidence to confirm that sexual assault could have happened)

https://www2.ed.gov/print/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201104.html

I basically came in to mention this. The current witch hunt hysteria about sexual assault on campus is the fault of the Obama administration.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Thanks Obama.

(Not being ironic. This kind of shit actually is his fault; he directed all universities receiving Federal funds to judge defendants guilty with a preponderance of evidence, a.k.a with barely enough evidence to confirm that sexual assault could have happened)

https://www2.ed.gov/print/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201104.html

what in the flying fuck

Trading one monster for another
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It's funny to me how so many things use the words democratic or justice, yet choose to be ironic and do the opposite. As if to spite their own title.
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Bump
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do you have another source for this? maybe one with less loaded language?
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Most of the time when a guy blacks out, it's time to check for blood in your stool, who gets a blowjob...

Amherst's guilty-until-proven-innocent

Nice. Way to give women all the power to get anyone they don't like to get expelled.
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Last bump
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Expelled for being a rape victim... it doesn't get any lower than that.
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If he hasn't pressed charges yet, his lawyer isn't doing their job.
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hopefully he takes this to court and sues the college. men need this to protect them. this is BS. the girl just feels guilty for what she did and because of that all of a sudden the guys to blame when he wasn't in a state to consent to anything.

Guys it literally says he is suing the college for due process. Does anyone even read past the topic title these days?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Nothing new sadly. Not even back I'm 2015 can't remember which college it was (but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hearst) had *an article written about them about a different incident which included the line "apparently to ____ rape is so vile a crime that even innocence isn't a valid defense."

Also holy fuck at "social justice education" being a thing.

social justice education is just code for far left lunacy / marxism

Its dancing around the term "political reeducation" which is flat out horrible. And yes Marxism plays a huge roll.
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I feel as though any act of ruining a man's life for anything dubious or not causing absolute harm on another should be banned by law. This doesn't help anyone. And it infuriates 3rd parties and does more harm to the view of sexual assault than develops it
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I see you
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Sami1000 posted...

Amherst's guilty-until-proven-innocent

Nice. Way to give women all the power to get anyone they don't like to get expelled.

That's social justice for you.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Expelled for being a rape victim... it doesn't get any lower than that.

Well, liberals believe men cannot be raped by women.
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darkjedilink posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Expelled for being a rape victim... it doesn't get any lower than that.

Well, liberals believe men cannot be raped by women.

No they dont. Its sexist to think women are incapable of doing that.
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i smell a successful lawsuit
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Oh no, that poor man got a blow job.
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Liberals at it again
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Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

Oh no, that poor man got a blow job.

And expelled
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uwnim posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Expelled for being a rape victim... it doesn't get any lower than that.

Well, liberals believe men cannot be raped by women.

No they dont. Its sexist to think women are incapable of doing that.

Explain this case, then.

Also:

Stupid Pirate Guy posted...

Oh no, that poor man got a blow job.

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darkjedilink posted...

Explain this case, then.

Dumbasses.
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feminism is a disease
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legendarylemur posted...

I feel as though any act of ruining a man's life for anything dubious or not causing absolute harm on another should be banned by law. This doesn't help anyone. And it infuriates 3rd parties and does more harm to the view of sexual assault than develops it

Actually, leftists/SJWs believe that false accusations can be valuable learning experiences and promote self reflection:

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,157165,00.html

Catherine Comins, assistant dean of student life at Vassar, also sees some value in this loose use of "rape." She says angry victims of various forms of sexual intimidation cry rape to regain their sense of power. "To use the word carefully would be to be careful for the sake of the violator, and the survivors don't care a hoot about him." Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. "They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions."

And they believe that false accusations can be useful in other ways:

This line of reasoning has led some women, especially radicalized victims, to justify flinging around the term rape as a political weapon, referring to everything from violent sexual assaults to inappropriate innuendos. Ginny, a college senior who was really raped when she was 16, suggests that false accusations of rape can serve a useful purpose. "Penetration is not the only form of violation," she explains. In her view, rape is a subjective term, one that women must use to draw attention to other, nonviolent, even nonsexual forms of oppression. "If a woman did falsely accuse a man of rape, she may have had reasons to," Ginny says. "Maybe she wasn't raped, but he clearly violated her in some way."

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