Current Events > Ajit Pai is an Obama appointee.

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Blame Obama your precious internet will now be regulated, not Trump.
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just like we can blame obama for the muslim ban. he made it. trump merely pulled the trigger

Obama administration was the one who pushed for NN in the first place though
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Obama *had* to appoint a Republican. Guess who made him the chair of the FCC though?

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

As I understand FCC rules, they are required by law to have at least two members (out of five) from each party. Pai was appointed at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell, and I doubt any Republican in his position would have voted differently (see the other two Republicans on the board)

Now, where we can get on Democrats is that net neutrality would be much safer if it had been passed into law rather than decreed by an executive agency.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.
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nicklebro posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.

Because obviously you can't change

Once you hold a belief or position you hold onto that SHIT UNTIL YOU FUCKING DIE
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nicklebro posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.

Hey if you're a fan of Hillary changing viewpoints every time the wind changes direction, more power to you. No need to throw an aggressive hissyfit about it.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

So he listened, learned about it and did what was best for the country he runs. Why is that being used a knock on him?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

So he listened, learned about it and did what was best for the country he runs. Why is that being used a knock on him?

Because the current president and his support is entirely incapable of understanding such a simple concept?
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wackyteen posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

So he listened, learned about it and did what was best for the country he runs. Why is that being used a knock on him?

Because the current president and his support is entirely incapable of understanding such a simple concept?

I've never voted right of center in my life, but okay.

wackyteen posted...

nicklebro posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.

Because obviously you can't change

Once you hold a belief or position you hold onto that SHIT UNTIL YOU FUCKING DIE

Lol gamefaqs (and America) in a nutshell.

We have conservatives who still want to arrest gays and continue the civil war, and liberals who defend pure socialism and freaking communism. There's some debates not even wars can settle.
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is hoth really a trumper or is it just another layer to his gimmick?
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nicklebro posted...

and liberals who defend pure socialism and freaking communism.

Those are called socialists and communists, not liberals.
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more_cow_bell posted...

is hoth really a trumper or is it just another layer to his gimmick?

Hoth is the trolliest of trolls to ever troll on gamefaqs
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

nicklebro posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.

Hey if you're a fan of Hillary changing viewpoints every time the wind changes direction, more power to you. No need to throw an aggressive hissyfit about it.

And weird how being ok with her changing viewpoints once means Im ok with it every time. Yeah, you're definitely not part of the problem.

But I am sorry my micro aggression hurt your feelings. I heard about a support group you can join.
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Antifar posted...

nicklebro posted...

and liberals who defend pure socialism and freaking communism.

Those are called socialists and communists, not liberals.

Youre right, shoulda have said "those on the left".
My mistake.
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Antifar posted...

nicklebro posted...

and liberals who defend pure socialism and freaking communism.

Those are called socialists and communists, not liberals.

Wait I thought the term was liherals.
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nicklebro posted...

And weird how being ok with her changing viewpoints once means Im ok with it every time.

And why exactly is it okay for you to feel negatively by all the other times Hillary "changed her mind" but it's not okay for me to feel the same way about the Obama example I gave?

Antifar posted...

As I understand FCC rules, they are required by law to have at least two members (out of five) from each party. Pai was appointed at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell, and I doubt any Republican in his position would have voted differently (see the other two Republicans on the board)

Now, where we can get on Democrats is that net neutrality would be much safer if it had been passed into law rather than decreed by an executive agency.

Would that have mattered? Trump would have repealed that law instantly.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

nicklebro posted...

And weird how being ok with her changing viewpoints once means Im ok with it every time.

And why exactly is it okay for you to feel negatively by all the other times Hillary "changed her mind" but it's not okay for me to feel the same way about the Obama example I gave?

Depends on the motivation for the change. Overwhelming public opinion is a lot different than "every time the wind changes direction". And she's changed her mind for more nefarious reasons that I don't agree with.

I mean you tried to tell me how I think, you were wrong and I'm letting you know. Idk how else to explain it to you.
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wackyteen posted...

nicklebro posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Obama wasn't for net neutrality until everyone who uses the internet came out in support of it, as I recall

Good, I want my politicians to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. Idk why everyone expects politicians to be born with all the right answers anyways. Like Hillary not supporting gay marriage till 2013. Yknow why? Cuz America didn't support it. Heaven forbid our elected representatives actually represent us and not just stubbornly stick to their original opinion no matter the amount of public backlash or contradictory evidence.

Because obviously you can't change

Once you hold a belief or position you hold onto that SHIT UNTIL YOU FUCKING DIE

'Murica
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I made a critical comment about a flipflop of Obama's and you started off a tirade about how people expect politicians to never change their opinions on anything. If it wasn't in response to me, aka insinuating that's what I think, I'm not sure why it was relevant as a reply to me.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

I made a critical comment about a flipflop of Obama's and you started off a tirade about how people expect politicians to never change their opinions on anything. If it wasn't in response to me, aka insinuating that's what I think, I'm not sure why it was relevant as a reply to me.

Did he change. Where did he say he was against NN before changing to be for it?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Did he change. Where did he say he was against NN before changing to be for it?

As I recall it was more that be refused to say anything on the subject until he had a clear image of which way the wind was blowing on the issue.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Would that have mattered? Trump would have repealed that law instantly.

Such a move would have had to go through congress, where perhaps public outrage and a few stray Republicans would have slowed or stopped the bill.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Did he change. Where did he say he was against NN before changing to be for it?

As I recall it was more that be refused to say anything on the subject until he had a clear image of which way the wind was blowing on the issue.

So he didnt comment on it until he learned more about it and eventually did the best thing for the country. Youre trying too hard.
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Pai is a great guy.

He has GOOD reasons to repeal the POS net neutrality.

Good for him, I'm proud.

I was one of thousands that reached out to our senators in support to repeal NN, so I'm happy trump agrees. He's a step in the right direction.

Plus, Obama agrees with getting rid of NN, so kudos for him to think ahead

#RepealNN
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I'm not trying anything at all. You should calm down.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

I made a critical comment about a flipflop of Obama's and you started off a tirade about how people expect politicians to never change their opinions on anything. If it wasn't in response to me, aka insinuating that's what I think, I'm not sure why it was relevant as a reply to me.

So you're admitting that you think it was wrong for a politician to be swayed by overwhelming public opinion. That's what I'm saying you're wrong about. Again, all the answers are there if you just take tome to read. Not all flip flopping is bad. The flip flopping you criticized was due to overwhelming public opinion. I explained why it's stupid to criticize anyone for that. You went on to straw man that into me defending every instance of flipflopping. I explained why that was stupid. Now you're accusing me of accusing of criticizing every instance of flip flopping, and I've just explained why that was stupid.

Seems like there's no more straw man arguments to refute, so maybe just give it up.
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Antifar posted...

Now, where we can get on Democrats is that net neutrality would be much safer if it had been passed into law rather than decreed by an executive agency.

The GOP would have obstructed. Besides they would have the numbers now to repeal it anyway.
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