Current Events > New Bill Aims to Ban Loot Boxes for Minors Under 21

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50Blessings 12/14/17 8:21:02 AM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBaUGPl1Ko FROM CHRIS LEE If you want predatory gaming practices to change, join us and spend a few minutes to take action: 1. Take 5 minutes to write to one or more of your elected officials: Governor, State Legislators, Mayor, and City Council members. Their email addresses can be found online. 2. Ask them to consider taking action to protect local families and particularly underage youth from predatory gaming practices. Tell your story in your own words or feel free to use or build on this example letter to get going: http://textuploader.com/dqn4s 3. Connect a link to a news article about this issue to add an additional perspective, and thank them for listening. That's it! Predatory gaming companies are waiting for people to quiet down. Dont let that happen. Speak out and help us change the gaming industry for the better. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:892194580] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBaUGPl1Ko <quote>FROM CHRIS LEE If you want predatory gaming practices to change, join us and spend a few minutes to take action: 1. Take 5 minutes to write to one or more of your elected officials: Governor, State Legislators, Mayor, and City Council members. Their email addresses can be found online. 2. Ask them to consider taking action to protect local families and particularly underage youth from predatory gaming practices. Tell your story in your own words or feel free to use or build on this example letter to get going: http://textuploader.com/dqn4s 3. Connect a link to a news article about this issue to add an additional perspective, and thank them for listening. That's it! Predatory gaming companies are waiting for people to quiet down. Dont let that happen. Speak out and help us change the gaming industry for the better.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/14/17 8:22:06 AM #2:	good, chris lee is a fine man and also v handsome --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:892194623] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>good, chris lee is a fine man and also v handsome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 12/14/17 2:44:28 PM #3:	AO games are already banned from consoles and stores, how will this even work? The ESRB make up a new even more banned rating? XD --- http://i.imgur.com/OlAyuQb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KnLuqux.jpg <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:892214029] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>AO games are already banned from consoles and stores, how will this even work? The ESRB make up a new even more banned rating? XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 12/14/17 2:46:03 PM #4:	So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:892214110] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/14/17 6:05:14 PM #5:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any. no, kids just wouldn't be allowed to access games with lootboxes --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:892226388] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any.</quote> no, kids just wouldn't be allowed to access games with lootboxes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 12/14/17 6:05:49 PM #6:	Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:892226428] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weekoldhotdog 12/14/17 6:06:27 PM #7:	I'm supporting this --- Ba da da dada, da da da dada, da da da dada, da da da dada... What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more. <cite>weekoldhotdog posted [p:892226477] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>I'm supporting this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 12/14/17 6:07:07 PM #8:	That would make them lose a lot of sponsors right? I'm 100% for this. --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/yo9VSX9.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://tinyurl.com/Cornboard <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:892226506] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>That would make them lose a lot of sponsors right? I'm 100% for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 12/14/17 6:07:57 PM #9:	lol EA fucked it up for everyone --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:892226560] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>lol EA fucked it up for everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/14/17 6:09:57 PM #10:	CruelBuffalo posted... Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes just like they could parent and not let them play on internet casinos --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:892226670] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes</quote> just like they could parent and not let them play on internet casinos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/14/17 6:12:01 PM #11:	What bill? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892226799] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>What bill?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 12/14/17 6:16:01 PM #12:	Frolex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes just like they could parent and not let them play on internet casinos Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Thanks for playing <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:892227046] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes</quote> just like they could parent and not let them play on internet casinos</quote> Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Thanks for playing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/14/17 6:17:35 PM #13:	CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:892227158] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. </quote> Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/14/17 7:04:48 PM #14:	CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892229857] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold.</quote> Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 12/14/17 7:06:02 PM #15:	Questionmarktarius posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not? --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:892229925] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold.</quote> Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg</quote> But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 12/14/17 7:06:48 PM #16:	whast the big deal with lootboxes? --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:892229973] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>whast the big deal with lootboxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/14/17 7:07:37 PM #17:	Drpooplol posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not? You can also make money selling capsule toys and claw-machine dolls. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892230007] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold.</quote> Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg</quote> But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not?</quote> You can also make money selling capsule toys and claw-machine dolls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 12/14/17 7:12:23 PM #18:	iamintents posted... whast the big deal with lootboxes? They're shit. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:892230281] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>iamintents posted...</cite> <quote>whast the big deal with lootboxes?</quote> They're shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 12/14/17 7:15:53 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... Drpooplol posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold. Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not? You can also make money selling capsule toys and claw-machine dolls. Don't pretend it's even close to the same thing, holy shit. "A change in magnitude can easily become a change in kind" Think about that. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:892230462] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. Lootboxes are not gambling as long as the "items" in the lootbox cannot be resold.</quote> Lootboxes are no more gambling than these things: https://pull1-wf3q21orjaze20bzu.netdna-ssl.com/media/extendware/ewimageopt/media/inline/4d/a/25-classic-toy-capsule-vending-machine-fbc.jpg</quote> But you can make money off of Lootboxes potentially, can you not?</quote> You can also make money selling capsule toys and claw-machine dolls.</quote> Don't pretend it's even close to the same thing, holy shit. "A change in magnitude can easily become a change in kind" Think about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 12/14/17 7:17:36 PM #20:	Frolex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws Kids should be allowed to drink, it's up to the parents to stop them! --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:892230571] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. </quote> Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws</quote> Kids should be allowed to drink, it's up to the parents to stop them!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 12/14/17 7:19:38 PM #21:	are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:892230683] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 12/14/17 7:19:52 PM #22:	LordRazziel posted... Frolex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Gambling is illegal for children. Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws Kids should be allowed to drink, it's up to the parents to stop them! Kids should be allowed to have sex with adults, it's up to the parents to stop them! ~~Totally a joke, mods. Pls don't kill me, I'm not for pedophilia.~~ --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:892230693] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Gambling is illegal for children. </quote> Just sounds like a lazy excuse for irresponsible parenting tbqh, should reverse those laws</quote> Kids should be allowed to drink, it's up to the parents to stop them!</quote> Kids should be allowed to have sex with adults, it's up to the parents to stop them! Totally a joke, mods. Pls don't kill me, I'm not for pedophilia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/14/17 7:20:41 PM #23:	How can they enforce it? --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 10-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-6 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:892230730] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>How can they enforce it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 12/14/17 7:20:44 PM #24:	Sativa_Rose posted... are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book. it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:892230733] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book.</quote> it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 12/14/17 7:21:30 PM #25:	Drpooplol posted... Sativa_Rose posted... are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book. it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes. Can you cash out though or just buy more stuff on steam? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:892230776] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book.</quote> it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes.</quote> Can you cash out though or just buy more stuff on steam?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 12/14/17 7:23:03 PM #26:	Sativa_Rose posted... Drpooplol posted... Sativa_Rose posted... are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book. it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes. Can you cash out though or just buy more stuff on steam? probably not but it shouldn't matter. Steam wallet money has intrinsic value. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:892230863] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book.</quote> it's possible to sell items on the steam storefront, yes.</quote> Can you cash out though or just buy more stuff on steam?</quote> probably not but it shouldn't matter. Steam wallet money has intrinsic value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/14/17 7:23:26 PM #27:	Sativa_Rose posted... are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book. I mean, "it's less beneficial than gambling" doesn't seem like a great case for the practice. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:892230887] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>are these kids actually getting paid out in cash for winning? If no, then it ain't gambling in my book.</quote> I mean, "it's less beneficial than gambling" doesn't seem like a great case for the practice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/14/17 7:24:16 PM #28:	And it'll fail. Loot boxes are no different than MTG and other card games <cite>OctilIery posted [p:892230924] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>And it'll fail. Loot boxes are no different than MTG and other card games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 12/14/17 7:50:30 PM #29:	I'm ok with this because fuck lootboxes --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:892232388] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with this because fuck lootboxes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 12/14/17 7:52:06 PM #30:	OctilIery posted... And it'll fail. Loot boxes are no different than MTG and other card games But black lotus <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:892232484] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>And it'll fail. Loot boxes are no different than MTG and other card games</quote> But black lotus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 12/14/17 7:52:24 PM #31:	The lootbox controversy is interesting, people clearly arguing from a point of self interest and hypocrisy, in the guise of paternalism and protectionism, forsaking consistency, freedom, and commerce. It's mind boggling how people are capable of such mental gymnastics. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:892232498] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>The lootbox controversy is interesting, people clearly arguing from a point of self interest and hypocrisy, in the guise of paternalism and protectionism, forsaking consistency, freedom, and commerce. It's mind boggling how people are capable of such mental gymnastics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigG777 12/14/17 7:56:48 PM #32:	CruelBuffalo posted... Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes I gotta agree with this I mean you do need a credit card to buy loot boxes. <cite>BigG777 posted [p:892232743] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Or parents could just parent and not buy the children lootboxes</quote> I gotta agree with this I mean you do need a credit card to buy loot boxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 12/14/17 8:03:14 PM #33:	I dunno, seems like a slippery slope. A lot of things could be categorized as a sort of gambling. I mean, I sunk hours of time into Diablo 2, which is effectively a glorified slot machine --- You gotta fly like an eagle and not.b... be like a turkey <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:892233073] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, seems like a slippery slope. A lot of things could be categorized as a sort of gambling. I mean, I sunk hours of time into Diablo 2, which is effectively a glorified slot machine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 12/14/17 8:28:59 PM #34:	Frolex posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any. no, kids just wouldn't be allowed to access games with lootboxes M rating is for 17+ and even AO is 18+, so with the current rating system, all games wouldn't be aloud to have loot boxes if you have to be 21+ to gamble do to people 3-4 years under the required age to purchase loot boxes would still have access to those games. If a law like that passes, the ESRB will need to come up with a new rating. <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:892234502] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>So kids would have to play legit and adults could lootbox themselves into an even larger advantage? Yeah . . . this doesn't help any.</quote> no, kids just wouldn't be allowed to access games with lootboxes</quote> M rating is for 17+ and even AO is 18+, so with the current rating system, all games wouldn't be aloud to have loot boxes if you have to be 21+ to gamble do to people 3-4 years under the required age to purchase loot boxes would still have access to those games. If a law like that passes, the ESRB will need to come up with a new rating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 12/14/17 11:58:11 PM #35:	When is Magic the Gathering and Pokemon trading card game going to be banned? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:892245078] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote>When is Magic the Gathering and Pokemon trading card game going to be banned?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 12/15/17 1:22:49 AM #36:	CruelBuffalo posted... When is Magic the Gathering and Pokemon trading card game going to be banned? Never lol <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:892248442] in New Bill A... [t:76097783]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>When is Magic the Gathering and Pokemon trading card game going to be banned?</quote> Never lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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