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Verdekal
12/12/17 6:40:45 PM
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Youngster_Joey_
12/12/17 6:41:23 PM
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Anti Semites
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FLUFFYGERM
12/12/17 6:41:40 PM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Anti Semites

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creativerealms
12/12/17 6:41:55 PM
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I don't think they are (I'm not) it's more they they want a compromise. Even if that will never happen.
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s0nicfan
12/12/17 6:41:57 PM
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A combination of a lack of information, double standards, anti-semitism, and muslims being their pet protected class right now.
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halomonkey1_3_5
12/12/17 6:42:30 PM
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Liberals are the real racists
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FLUFFYGERM
12/12/17 6:42:58 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
A combination of a lack of information, double standards, anti-semitism, and muslims being their pet protected class right now.

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mario2000
12/12/17 6:44:32 PM
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its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"
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Verdekal
12/12/17 6:45:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?
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Dragonblade01
12/12/17 6:46:55 PM
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Well, part of it is likely the fact that every issue seems to become a dichotomy when you have two "competing" sides.

At the same time, I would expect a trend of among liberals towards being irreligious; and that lack of religious motivation may cause some to view the establishment of Israel as something encroaching on the surrounding nations rather than as a nation claiming their right. Furthermore, considering that part of that irreligious trend may be accompanied by resentment towards religion, that could further said viewpoint.
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mario2000
12/12/17 6:47:08 PM
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Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?

i think that blowing up hospitals and murdering kids is bad....?

not sure what you're getting at here
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s0nicfan
12/12/17 6:48:21 PM
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Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?


Don't bother. He holds one of the most extreme double standards when it comes to these issues. Ask him how jews, or gays, or any other minority demographic are treated in any of the surrounding countries, and then ask him why Israel has something like 10x more UN decrees against them for human rights violations when compared to all of them COMBINED.
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Cheater87
12/12/17 6:48:54 PM
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I was raised Jewish and I'm pro Palestine.
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hortanz
12/12/17 6:49:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"


someone will twist this into you being antisemitic, have fun
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CarlGrimes
12/12/17 6:49:27 PM
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creativerealms posted...
it's more they they want a compromise. Even if that will never happen.

When one side calls for the complete genocide of the other, yeah it will never happen. But if you look at the people that defend Palestine on here it tends to be all the usual players of the left, which doesn't surprise me since that is historically how it tends to go.
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Broseph_Stalin
12/12/17 6:51:53 PM
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We're talking about an issue where the right wants a continued war to fulfill biblical prophecy I'm not sure it's the liberals who are crazy here.
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Waluigi7
12/12/17 6:52:50 PM
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Don't care about Israel or Palestine.

Let them solve it.
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Zeeak4444
12/12/17 6:54:05 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Well, part of it is likely the fact that every issue seems to become a dichotomy when you have two "competing" sides.

At the same time, I would expect a trend of among liberals towards being irreligious; and that lack of religious motivation may cause some to view the establishment of Israel as something encroaching on the surrounding nations rather than as a nation claiming their right. Furthermore, considering that part of that irreligious trend may be accompanied by resentment towards religion, that could further said viewpoint.


I think you nailed it TBH.

Waluigi7 posted...
Don't care about Israel or Palestine.

Let them solve it.


This is my stance on it. If the US wants to be involved then they need to fully invest themselves in the fallout. Otherwise just stay the fuck out of it.
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mario2000
12/12/17 6:59:13 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?


Don't bother. He holds one of the most extreme double standards when it comes to these issues. Ask him how jews, or gays, or any other minority demographic are treated in any of the surrounding countries, and then ask him why Israel has something like 10x more UN decrees against them for human rights violations when compared to all of them COMBINED.

so do you just post random nonsense for fun or what i don't really get your gimmick
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s0nicfan
12/12/17 7:01:33 PM
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mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?


Don't bother. He holds one of the most extreme double standards when it comes to these issues. Ask him how jews, or gays, or any other minority demographic are treated in any of the surrounding countries, and then ask him why Israel has something like 10x more UN decrees against them for human rights violations when compared to all of them COMBINED.

so do you just post random nonsense for fun or what i don't really get your gimmick


My gimmick is calling you out on your blatant hypocrisy and double standard in picking Israel as the "bad guy" in that region when they have a far, FAR better record on human rights, tolerance for minorities, and equality of law.
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mario2000
12/12/17 7:04:34 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?


Don't bother. He holds one of the most extreme double standards when it comes to these issues. Ask him how jews, or gays, or any other minority demographic are treated in any of the surrounding countries, and then ask him why Israel has something like 10x more UN decrees against them for human rights violations when compared to all of them COMBINED.

so do you just post random nonsense for fun or what i don't really get your gimmick


My gimmick is calling you out on your blatant hypocrisy and double standard in picking Israel as the "bad guy" in that region when they have a far, FAR better record on human rights, tolerance for minorities, and equality of law.

so how does that factor into them blowing up arab civilians, schools, hospitals, etc.

or you just gonna subscribe to the "i can't be the bad guy because other people are worse" fallacy
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iPhone_7
12/12/17 7:04:53 PM
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- wants Israel to stop kicking Palestinians out of their homes to make room for more settlements
- dislikes the humanitarian crises in the Gaza Strip
- wow what an anti-semite
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s0nicfan
12/12/17 7:07:51 PM
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mario2000 posted...
so how does that factor into them blowing up arab civilians, schools, hospitals, etc.

or you just gonna subscribe to the "i can't be the bad guy because other people are worse" fallacy


It factors into why you're pro Palestine when they have (and twice elected) a government with an open, PUBLIC policy for the global eradication of all the world's Jews.

You're also being a bit disingenuous because you're quietly pretending that the reason certain buildings are targeted isn't because Hamas uses them to fire rockets into Israel territory, using those establishments as both shields from return fire and also propaganda when Israel DOES fire back.

A better question would be, why do YOU think Palestine isn't the bad guy here when of the two sides, only one of them (Palestine) openly advocates for genocide?
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Verdekal
12/12/17 7:29:12 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?

i think that blowing up hospitals and murdering kids is bad....?

not sure what you're getting at here

Do you know what would happen to every Israeli man woman and child if they did not defend themselves?

I find it interesting that 0% of the news coverage I've seen has concerned the opinions of Israeli citizens.
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mario2000
12/12/17 7:39:16 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
mario2000 posted...
so how does that factor into them blowing up arab civilians, schools, hospitals, etc.

or you just gonna subscribe to the "i can't be the bad guy because other people are worse" fallacy


It factors into why you're pro Palestine when they have (and twice elected) a government with an open, PUBLIC policy for the global eradication of all the world's Jews.

You're also being a bit disingenuous because you're quietly pretending that the reason certain buildings are targeted isn't because Hamas uses them to fire rockets into Israel territory, using those establishments as both shields from return fire and also propaganda when Israel DOES fire back.

A better question would be, why do YOU think Palestine isn't the bad guy here when of the two sides, only one of them (Palestine) openly advocates for genocide?

is this the best time to point out i never claimed to be pro palestine....?
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mario2000
12/12/17 7:40:20 PM
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Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
Verdekal posted...
mario2000 posted...
its not so much "pro palestine" as it is "israel should stop blowing up hospitals and murdering arab children"

What do you think?

i think that blowing up hospitals and murdering kids is bad....?

not sure what you're getting at here

Do you know what would happen to every Israeli man woman and child if they did not defend themselves?

they would be just fine considering they have a pretty good army?
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Prestoff
12/12/17 7:42:22 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Mad religious wars.

If only all religion just evaporated - the difference is so petty.


Watch out, you're entering edgy atheist territory.
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Hexenherz
12/12/17 7:43:45 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
A combination of a lack of information, double standards, anti-semitism, and muslims being their pet protected class right now.

lmao what
It's so absurd reading whacked out crap like this sometimes.
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s0nicfan
12/12/17 7:45:42 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
s0nicfan posted...
A combination of a lack of information, double standards, anti-semitism, and muslims being their pet protected class right now.

lmao what
It's so absurd reading whacked out crap like this sometimes.


Feel free to explain how I'm wrong
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SageHarpuia
12/12/17 7:46:43 PM
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They support socialism, why wouldn't they support other types of theft?
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Hexenherz
12/12/17 7:47:35 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Hexenherz posted...
s0nicfan posted...
A combination of a lack of information, double standards, anti-semitism, and muslims being their pet protected class right now.

lmao what
It's so absurd reading whacked out crap like this sometimes.


Feel free to explain how I'm wrong

You just threw out a bunch of some of the most generic comments and expect a reasoned argument from it LOL
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Nostradumbass
12/12/17 7:49:16 PM
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ignorance. our media does a shit job of objective news only sensationalizes issues.

im all for a 2 state solution but as long as hamas as their ass up the palestinian people there will be no state and no peace.
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Kamala_Harris
12/12/17 7:49:59 PM
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liberals aren't, leftists are.
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Questionmarktarius
12/12/17 7:51:05 PM
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Because, Israel is successful and moderately wealthy, therefore they must be doing something bad.
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Hinakuluiau
12/12/17 7:52:18 PM
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The way I see it, Israel is pretty shitty too. Is it as bad as Palestine? No. But when we as a country have decided to align with Israel we are condoning the things they do.
Basically we accept that Palestine is shitty and we all agree on that. Why bother bringing that up if we're in agreement? Instead let's focus on the fact that Israel is pretty fucked up too and our government is happy to let it all slide.

On a less controversial stance, it's basically like Saudi Arabia. They're shitty but we're buddy-buddy with them.
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ZombiePelican
12/12/17 8:01:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius
12/12/17 8:01:57 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
*coughs*

yAGyBdp

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C_Pain
12/12/17 8:02:38 PM
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They like to virtue signal by supporting the perceived underdogs
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SageHarpuia
12/12/17 8:02:51 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
*coughs*

yAGyBdp

And before any of that it was all white.
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Questionmarktarius
12/12/17 8:04:38 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
*coughs*

yAGyBdp

And before any of that it was all white.

Before that, it was UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
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TheCyborgNinja
12/12/17 8:06:12 PM
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Waluigi7 posted...
Don't care about Israel or Palestine.

Let them solve it.

This. Everyone needs to just stay out of the Middle East and let them just hammer things out until its sorted internally. There can not be a peaceful resolution when enough people on both sides do not want it.
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SageHarpuia
12/12/17 8:06:24 PM
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Earlier than that
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Nostradumbass
12/12/17 8:06:26 PM
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lets just take it back to the dinosaurs and say it belongs to the velociraptors
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ZombiePelican
12/12/17 8:07:16 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
*coughs*

yAGyBdp

And before any of that it was all white.

That land was not Israel for over 2000 years, pre WW2 that land was known as Palestine for around 400 years, you're reaching hard.

They have more of an actual claim to it other than "muh religion"
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SageHarpuia
12/12/17 8:09:52 PM
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Actually King David bought the land were the temple was that is being fought over, it's not even a religious argument at that point.
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The Admiral
12/12/17 8:10:19 PM
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Victim attribution error.
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averagejoel
12/12/17 8:12:43 PM
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jesus christ people

stop conflating criticism of israel with antisemitism

israeli state =/= jews
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