Current Events > Death Stranding was announced a year and a half ago and now has 3 trailers

(+) Yeah! (+)

And yet people still don't know wtf the game is supposed to be yet.

You'd think announcing a new video game IP should mean you'd have to reveal what the actual gameplay is supposed to be within a year. But I guess not.

Maybe we'll find out how it plays in 2019 when we see trailer 6. I doubt it'll be next year.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a PS5 game tbh.
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LIsJustice posted...

I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a PS5 game tbh.

The new FF Versus XIII
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I enjoy slow hype ups tbh
I enjoyed FFXVs as well, along with FFXV
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Rika_Furude posted...

I enjoy slow hype ups tbh
I enjoyed FFXVs as well, along with FFXV

There are slow build ups and then there are games that are stuck in development hell and the end product becomes something totally different to what it started out as.
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https://twitter.com/Suribot/status/939277010907607043
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When I think of new IP's that announced themselves with a cutscene I think of games like The Order 1886. I can't be hyped for this shit anymore. Not until they show gameplay.
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I feel like the whole deal is just an excuse for Kojima to get close to Mads Mikkelsen
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In Kojima We Trust
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Rika_Furude posted...

I enjoy slow hype ups tbh
I enjoyed FFXVs as well, along with FFXV

The gong show known as Final Fantasy XIII Versus wasn't a slow hype. It was an embryo frozen in storage and then the guy pulling it out accidentally dropped it and smashed on the floor upon impact so they had to start over again.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

In Kojima We Trust

He lost my trust after MGS4 and 5.
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Darmik posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

In Kojima We Trust

He lost my trust after MGS4 and 5.

4 and V both had great gameplay. Hell, 4 gets way too much hate for it's story. It was a great send off for Snake. V's story was trash but the gameplay was amazing. Best video game engine easily.
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REMake 2 was announced 2 years ago and there has been nothing about it.
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It's kojima, the company didn't even exist until shortly before the announcement. I'd be more annoyed if we had nothing than having these super early teases
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Smashingpmkns posted...

4 and V both had great gameplay. Hell, 4 gets way too much hate for it's story. It was a great send off for Snake. V's story was trash but the gameplay was amazing. Best video game engine easily.

4 was way too short and the second half was really shoddy. There's like 3-4 hours of good gameplay there at most.

MGSV had good gameplay mechanics. But that mission/level design was awful. Way too much recycled content. Constantly returning to the same outposts with the same enemy layout to fulton something else was just shit.

I Like Toast posted...

It's kojima, the company didn't even exist until shortly before the announcement. I'd be more annoyed if we had nothing than having these super early teases

I think it's understandable that it takes time to develop games. Why rush out a trailer within 6 months when the final game will look completely different? When has this ever turned out well?

If he wanted to throw out a teaser so we know what he's working on then fine. But it's kind of a joke at this point.
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Darmik posted...

Why rush out a trailer within 6 months when the final game will look completely different?

I Like Toast posted...

It's kojima,

Darmik posted...

? When has this ever turned out well?

I Like Toast posted...

It's kojima

Darmik posted...

But it's kind of a joke at this point.

only to people with miserable lives. Is your life miserable?
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I Like Toast posted...

only to people with miserable lives. Is your life miserable?

Nope.

My hype level is low. So if the game turns out well then great.

But history speaks for itself. This shit reminds me of Order 1886 and Bioshock Infinite. A bunch of cinematic trailers that spoke nothing about the game that were released way too soon which just lead to a whole bunch of disappointed people.

History speaks for itself really.
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Is Guillermo no longer involved in making it? His name didn't appear in the new trailer.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

Is Guillermo no longer involved in making it? His name didn't appear in the new trailer.

He was at the award show wasn't he?

It's entirely possible he doesn't really have all that much input though. He might just be a VA/game model. I have no idea.
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Fallout 4 was the best about this. People begged for it for years and they kept their mouth shut until they were just like "here's Fallout 4, it'll be out in like 6 months." More games should do that tbh.
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Darmik posted...

KazumaKiryu posted...

Is Guillermo no longer involved in making it? His name didn't appear in the new trailer.

He was at the award show wasn't he?

It's entirely possible he doesn't really have all that much input though. He might just be a VA/game model. I have no idea.

Yeah he was there earlier and his likeness is in the game still, but before he was getting a co-creator credit with Kojima.
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Darmik posted...

History speaks for itself really.

then you'd think you'd remember literally any pre release kojima trailer. Since it's par for the course. the first MGS4 trailer was TGS05 and the game released 3 years later. MGS2 actively trolled the customers.

Seems like you've got a miserable life m8.
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I Like Toast posted...

the first MGS4 trailer was TGS05 and the game released 3 years later.

And MGS4 was the worst numbered MGS game when it released

I Like Toast posted...

MGS2 actively trolled the customers.

MGS2 had a long ass gameplay trailer that showed a shitload (even if it was misleading) and had an incredibly long and generous demo. Not the same thing at all. Surprising players with a new playable character is completely different because people still knew how the game played.

Nobody can talk about a single gameplay mechanic in Death Stranding. It could be a QTE game played through your smartphone for all we know. That's how pointless these trailers are.
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Darmik posted...

And MGS4 was the worst numbered MGS game when it released

you say that like being the "worst" MGS is a bad thing. Game was phenomenal, only annoying thing about it is the installs between acts.

Darmik posted...

MGS2 had a long ass gameplay trailer that showed a shitload (even if it was misleading) and had an incredibly long and generous demo. Not the same thing at all.

And death stranding will have a long ass gameplay trailer that will show a shitload. like every other kojima trailer once release gets close.

There's no reason to be so miserable because Kojima choose to promote his game like he's Kojima. To us non miserable people, we enjoyed the trailer and we're perfectly fine waiting until the game is ready. We're enjoying the speculation they offer, we're enjoying the cast that's been shown, and we're enjoying seeing that progress is being made. Yet, you want to sit here and bitch and moan because you're a miserable pessimist. I get it, life hasn't turned out the way you wanted it to and you hate seeing other people happy. Maybe instead of being mad at Kojima, consider finding a good shrink.
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I'm kind of annoyed that we don't even know the genre of the game yet. I get the impression that Kojima is trying to innovate with the whole theme of "tying things together", but I really want to know how (if at all) this idea is expressed in gameplay.
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i honestly hate the way the (mostly console)gaming industry treats its costumers.

teaser of a trailer that leads into a pure cinematic CGI trailer that leads into a CGI-driven "gameplay" trailer that leads into a 100% scripted gameplay trailer that FINALLY leads into an end-user experience driven gameplay trailer.

the first movie trailer for something like avengers infinity war gave a close to 100% representation of what the final product and experience will be like.

with (mostly on console)game trailers you get piece meal information and have to piece together bit by bit what the fuck you'll actually be buying come release day.
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To me personally MS4 was a horrible.

It took everything we loved about the the game and made it about nenobots . How did Vamp did all that cool shit... nenobots . No one needed an answer for that he just had powers and that was ok. How Psychic really work... nenobots . Everything single thing with Jack and Rose..

On a side note I just got the joke with their names.
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This game is going to come out and make David Cage jealous with how little gameplay it has.
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I Like Toast posted...

you say that like being the "worst" MGS is a bad thing. Game was phenomenal, only annoying thing about it is the installs between acts.

Act 3-5 were shitty from a gameplay perspective. It also had long, drawn out cutscenes that were usually pretty bad. The game was pretty disappointing. I don't really see anything phenomenal about it.

I Like Toast posted...

And death stranding will have a long ass gameplay trailer that will show a s***load. like every other kojima trailer once release gets close.

Yeah like 2 years from now. I said that in my OP.

I Like Toast posted...

To us non miserable people, we enjoyed the trailer and we're perfectly fine waiting until the game is ready. We're enjoying the speculation they offer, we're enjoying the cast that's been shown, and we're enjoying seeing that progress is being made. Yet, you want to sit here and b**** and moan because you're a miserable pessimist. I get it, life hasn't turned out the way you wanted it to and you hate seeing other people happy. Maybe instead of being mad at Kojima, consider finding a good shrink.

Damn you really can't handle people criticizing video game marketing. Wow.
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Tbh I'll still buy it if it ever releases
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Gamer99z posted...

Fallout 4 was the best about this. People begged for it for years and they kept their mouth shut until they were just like "here's Fallout 4, it'll be out in like 6 months." More games should do that tbh.

And then it ended up being shit. No thanks.
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Kelystic posted...

I feel like the whole deal is just an excuse for Kojima to get close to Mads Mikkelsen

That and millions of dollars
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Azardea posted...

And then it ended up being s***. No thanks.

That has little to do with the fast announcement and release.
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cjsdowg posted...

Azardea posted...

And then it ended up being s***. No thanks.

That has little to do with the fast announcement and release.

Yeah I think the reception would have been even worse if it had some trailer 3 years earlier that promised shit that was eventually cut.

Bethesda's pretty good with their marketing really. What you see is generally what you get.
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Darmik posted...

Act 3-5 were shitty from a gameplay perspective.

nope, not even remotely. act 4 is pure nostalgia that any fan loved.

Darmik posted...

It also had long, drawn out cutscenes that were usually pretty bad

nope. most fans loved the cutscenes, miserable people like yourself i'm sure got mad.

Darmik posted...

The game was pretty disappointing.

Which is why it was critically and financially a success?

Darmik posted...

Yeah like 2 years from now. I said that in my OP.

so, find literally anything else to fixate on for 2 years, rather than being upset that kojima released a new trailer featuring a key character from the walking dead the weekend of the walking dead mid season finale.

Darmik posted...

Damn you really can't handle people criticizing video game marketing. Wow.

I couldn't give less of a fuck, it's not about the marketing it's about your life outlook. i'm just trying to help your life be less miserable. You can get mad, like you clearly have here, or you can take the steps to improve yourself. Being miserable is a choice. You can choose to stop.
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I Like Toast posted...

nope, not even remotely. act 4 is pure nostalgia that any fan loved.

Yeah sure was cool dodging a bunch of laser robots and nothing else. It's almost like I expected good gameplay to go with my nostalgia.

I Like Toast posted...

I couldn't give less of a f***, it's not about the marketing it's about your life outlook. i'm just trying to help your life be less miserable. You can get mad, like you clearly have here, or you can take the steps to improve yourself. Being miserable is a choice. You can choose to stop.

lol I'm making a topic that is criticizing a specific form of marketing that this game is using and you're in here throwing a tantrum about it.

I'm not miserable because I criticize things. If that was the case you must be one depressed individual with your attitude in here.
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imagine responding seriously to toast in 2017
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Darmik posted...

Yeah sure was cool dodging a bunch of laser robots and nothing else. It's almost like I expected good gameplay to go with my nostalgia.

and you did, you got a rex v ray fight. The closest you're going to get is the escort act, because hardly anyone really likes escort missions. Especially when you replay the game.

Seriously, what went wrong in your life to only focus on the negatives? There's plenty of people on ce who are far nicer than me that you can talk it through with if you're too embarrassed to see a shrink to work it out.

People, like me, wanted the trailers. That's why they exist. We understand it's a new company and the game is years away. We're fine with it. People like you, will never be happy for anything above a moment, then you'll notice something that isn't perfect and return to your natural negative miserable self.

Darmik posted...

lol I'm making a topic that is criticizing a specific form of marketing that this game is using and you're in here throwing a tantrum about it.

That's the spirit, deflect! yes i'm having a "tantrum" by stating the fact that you're a miserable person. Oh well, stay miserable, there's no shortage of people doing things you don't like you can make topics over.
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I Like Toast posted...

yes i'm having a "tantrum"

We can tell.
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Damn only two lines there actually about the game.

The rest of the post talking about how miserable I am and that I need to see shrink because I don't like MGS4 and the way Death Stranding has been marketed. Imagine having this conversation with someone in real life.
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Azardea posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Fallout 4 was the best about this. People begged for it for years and they kept their mouth shut until they were just like "here's Fallout 4, it'll be out in like 6 months." More games should do that tbh.

And then it ended up being shit. No thanks.

That's irrelevant to the point I'm making, but imagine if instead of being announced and released within a 6 month or so window like it was, if it was hyped up and information was drip fed for a few years before it can out and then that's what you'd gotten...
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that would be 2 more lines than you managed, getting a little emotional at having to come to terms with your misery are we?
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phantom pain was teased in 2013 right?

took them 3 years
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I Like Toast posted...

that would be 2 more lines than you managed, getting a little emotional at having to come to terms with your misery are we?

and yes, imagine having this conversation in real life.

"hey john, did you see that death stranding trailer?"
"yeah darmick, it was prett"
"It fucking sucked it shouldn't even exist!"
"uhhh...okay, why did you bring it up if it upsets you, we could have talked about literally anything else"
"stop having a temper tantrum john, let's talk about more things i don't like"

It's really not that difficult talking about the negative aspects of games (or whatever else) with others. I'm guessing someone who thinks anyone who criticizes something needs to go therapy wouldn't understand this though.
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I Like Toast posted...

"hey john, did you see that death stranding trailer?"
"yeah darmick, it was prett"
"It fucking sucked it shouldn't even exist!"
"wow you are such a miserable person living a miserable life"
"what? I'm just trying to say I thought the trailer sucked"
"And I'm trying to help you not be such a miserable waste of life"

Corrected version of this real life conversation.
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hackjima is gonna out-trash mgsv (trash)
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Darmik posted...

It's really not that difficult talking about the negative aspects of games (or whatever else) with others.

no one said it was difficult, what was said is it show cases your miserable outlook on life that you choose to start a conversation about things you don't like. You didn't enter a topic about death stranding and go, "yeah that was a neat trailer but it's way too soon", you seeked out the conversation to spread your negativity to others. That's what miserable people do.

I don't like competitive multiplayer shootahs, so, get this, I don't make topics about them. I like dota 2 and don't like LoL, so, i make topics about dota and don't about league. I like the NFL and MLB and don't like NHL and regular season NBA, so, i make topics about the NFL and MLB and don't about NHL and regular season hockey. It's also not a difficult thing to do, I'm simply not a miserable pessimist who finds the need to fixate on what I don't like. You on the other hand, despite posting in the game awards topic, 3 days later, still need to share how upset you are that this game that isn't close to being released has 3 whole trailers! The nerve of Kojima
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I Like Toast posted...

no one said it was difficult, what was said is it show cases your miserable outlook on life that you choose to start a conversation about things you don't like. You didn't enter a topic about death stranding and go, "yeah that was a neat trailer but it's way too soon", you seeked out the conversation to spread your negativity to others. That's what miserable people do.

Wouldn't I still be spreading negativity if I entered a topic to talk about this too? Looks like I can't win with topic whiners like you. Nobody forced you to click this topic. It's pretty obvious what it's about. Instead you'd rather go into a topic and personally attack a person for 30 minutes because they criticized something you like. Which seems way more extreme to me.

I Like Toast posted...

I don't like competitive multiplayer shootahs, so, get this, I don't make topics about them. I like dota 2 and don't like LoL, so, i make topics about dota and don't about league. I like the NFL and MLB and don't like NHL and regular season NBA, so, i make topics about the NFL and MLB and don't about NHL and regular season hockey.

I don't make topics like those either.

I like most of Kojima's games. I'm the target audience of pretty much everything shown at the VGA's. It's almost like...this is a game I'm interested in?! It's almost like...I'm being critical of the way a game markets itself to me? Wow. That can't be right! You either have to be 100% devoted to a video game or not talk about it at all I guess. Weird.

I Like Toast posted...

You on the other hand, despite posting in the game awards topic, 3 days later, still need to share how upset you are that this game that isn't close to being released has 3 whole trailers! The nerve of Kojima

I could barely post in that topic. I don't post here on weekends. I still wanted to talk about it so I made a topic about it. What's the big deal again?
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That shit was pretty crazy, but that last shot of the trailer was neat. I'm definitely curious as to what the hell this thing is gonna even be, assuming it ever comes out.
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Jiggy101011 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

I enjoy slow hype ups tbh
I enjoyed FFXVs as well, along with FFXV

There are slow build ups and then there are games that are stuck in development hell and the end product becomes something totally different to what it started out as.

Kojima only recently left komani. The game isnt in development hell. Not even close
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