Current Events > Where do elves get off thinking their superior to men in Elder Scrolls?

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Looking at the four races of Mer and the four races of Men, it seems elves have more "savage/wild" races then men do.

Altmer = civilized
Bosmer = savage
Dunmer = barbaric
Orsimer = savage/barbaric

Now let's look at the Men races

Imperial = civilized
Breton = civilized
Redguard = civilized
Nord = savage/barbaric

Elves only have 1 civilized race, and 3 barbaric races. Men have 1 barbaric race and 3 civilized races

I dunno from where I'm standing, it seems men are the defenders of civilization on Tamriel, not stupid elves.

(I know there have been other mer races in the past and that the Maomer/Sea Elves are also a thing, but we don't see them in ES proper so I don't count 'em. There's also the Falmer but they're not even people anymore).
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you're forgetting the dwemer and thalmor
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BlackHorse6969 posted...

you're forgetting the dwemer

They're gone so they don't count anymore.
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I believe it's something to do with the Mer being the descendants of Aedra that were deceived into giving up their immortality.
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I thought redguards fell into the savage/barbaric category
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Probably because elves know the difference between "their" and they're."
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ThePieReborn posted...

I believe it's something to do with the Mer being the descendants of Aedra that were deceived into giving up their immortality.

Men and mer are both descendants of the same elnofey.
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And I'd hardly call dunmer or bosmer barbaric;

Orsimmer are barbaric because they were cursed, their patron daedra; Trinimac got eaten by boethiah and pooped out and became Malacath..
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Also one would argue neither Breton nor Redguard are that civilized. Redguard are nomadic desert people and Bretons are all tribals w petty kings just like nords.
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Because the Altmer exist and they are the true master race

BeautifulBlaze posted...

BlackHorse6969 posted...

you're forgetting the dwemer

They're gone so they don't count anymore.

Malarkey, I've seen plenty floating around the ruins under Almalexia.

Kazi1212 posted...

I thought redguards fell into the savage/barbaric category

Racist.
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Very_Unreliable posted...

And I'd hardly call dunmer or bosmer barbaric;

Ashlanders are pretty barbaric tbh

Very_Unreliable posted...

Bretons are all tribals w petty kings just like nords.

The Reachmen in Skyrim are Breton and mostly tribals. Actual Bretons in High Rock are organized into Kingdoms and have a pretty advanced culture.

And Redguards have massive coastal cities, and a very popping maritime industry.
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If you want to talk advanced cultures, also keep in mind that the Nords were colonizing Vvardenfell so long before the Imperials that the settlements they abandoned are ruins by the time Elder Scrolls 3 takes place.
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Doom_Art posted...

Very_Unreliable posted...

And I'd hardly call dunmer or bosmer barbaric;

Ashlanders are pretty barbaric tbh

Very_Unreliable posted...

Bretons are all tribals w petty kings just like nords.

The Reachmen in Skyrim are Breton and mostly tribals. Actual Bretons in High Rock are organized into Kingdoms and have a pretty advanced culture.

And Redguards have massive coastal cities, and a very popping maritime industry.

What makes you thank that about the Bretons? The bretons in high rock are VERY similar to nords w a little more emphasis on magic.

Redguards are very barbaric outside of their maritime commerce. and they're basically pirates...
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Kazi1212 posted...

I thought redguards fell into the savage/barbaric category

They're kind of a middle ground.
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Elves are always assholes in everything
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

I thought redguards fell into the savage/barbaric category

They're kind of a middle ground.

But they have curved swords
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No cares

Bosmer = master race

I'd say all the races of men are more civilized than every elf but the high elves.

The Nords aren't really barbaric, just rural. Skyrim is set in an equivalent of a post-viking Christianized Scandinavia. The exodus from Atmora and the Companions shenanigans would have been the viking stuff. The viking stuff is all tales and legends by the time you play the game. They still have bandits, but fuck, who doesn't? It's an RPG.

The dark elves may be more advanced but they're daedra-worshippers.
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The only good elves belong to Santa
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Very_Unreliable posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Very_Unreliable posted...

And I'd hardly call dunmer or bosmer barbaric;

Ashlanders are pretty barbaric tbh

Very_Unreliable posted...

Bretons are all tribals w petty kings just like nords.

The Reachmen in Skyrim are Breton and mostly tribals. Actual Bretons in High Rock are organized into Kingdoms and have a pretty advanced culture.

And Redguards have massive coastal cities, and a very popping maritime industry.

What makes you thank that about the Bretons? The bretons in high rock are VERY similar to nords w a little more emphasis on magic.

Redguards are very barbaric outside of their maritime commerce. and they're basically pirates...

Not how eso portrayed them. They are your basic copy and paste of middle age Britain and I don't consider that barbaric. Large walled stone cities with castles and advanced culture
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glitteringfairy posted...

Not how eso portrayed them. They are your basic copy and paste of middle age Britain and I don't consider that barbaric. Large walled stone cities with castles and advanced culture

Even before ESO my understanding of High Rock in lore has always been that it's a very advanced/cultural place analogous to Britain/France during the middle ages or early renaissance
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I think the superiority of the Altmer is all that really matters. Everyone else is below them.
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