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Corrik 12/09/17 1:26:38 AM #1:	http://www.ksbw.com/article/video-of-deadly-arizona-police-shooting-shows-suspect-crawling-crying/14395565 I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. However... With all the details, I can see why the cop was found not guilty. However, the cops really put that guy in a high stress situation that could have been avoided if it was handled differently. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891867379] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>http://www.ksbw.com/article/video-of-deadly-arizona-police-shooting-shows-suspect-crawling-crying/14395565 I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. However... With all the details, I can see why the cop was found not guilty. However, the cops really put that guy in a high stress situation that could have been avoided if it was handled differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/09/17 1:32:51 AM #2:	Corrik posted... I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:891867573] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. </quote> It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 12/09/17 1:34:36 AM #3:	jesus christ corrik --- http://i.imgur.com/U7qSWmn.jpg something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:891867624] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>jesus christ corrik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:35:52 AM #4:	StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891867670] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. </quote> It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics</quote> Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/09/17 1:38:36 AM #5:	Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic. There is literally nothing wrong with my response You said you feel like the guy being African American would have caused more topics to be made about this I replied by informing you that the people who usually make said topics already discussed this news in an existing topic, therefore negating the necessity of making more topics --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:891867766] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. </quote> It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics</quote> Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic.</quote> There is literally nothing wrong with my response You said you feel like the guy being African American would have caused more topics to be made about this I replied by informing you that the people who usually make said topics already discussed this news in an existing topic, therefore negating the necessity of making more topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninkendo 12/09/17 1:40:51 AM #6:	aww they pixelated it out --- http://i.imgur.com/LhGP5E6.gif https://card.psnprofiles.com/2/CaptainRockman.png <cite>ninkendo posted [p:891867832] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>aww they pixelated it out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 12/09/17 1:42:33 AM #7:	The sergeant barking the orders in the video was not the same officer that pulled the trigger. "Shaver's parents are seeking unspecified damages in a wrongful-death lawsuit against Brailsford, Langley and the city of Mesa. Shaver's widow, Laney Sweet, has filed a separate $75 million lawsuit against the city, the officers and the hotel's parent company." https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2017/11/14/former-mesa-police-sergeant-backs-decision-mitch-brailsford-fatal-shooting/864693001/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2017/12/07/former-arizona-officer-found-guilty-murderin-shooting-unarmed-granbury-man --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:891867895] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>The sergeant barking the orders in the video was not the same officer that pulled the trigger. "Shaver's parents are seeking unspecified damages in a wrongful-death lawsuit against Brailsford, Langley and the city of Mesa. Shaver's widow, Laney Sweet, has filed a separate $75 million lawsuit against the city, the officers and the hotel's parent company." https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2017/11/14/former-mesa-police-sergeant-backs-decision-mitch-brailsford-fatal-shooting/864693001/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2017/12/07/former-arizona-officer-found-guilty-murderin-shooting-unarmed-granbury-man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:45:47 AM #8:	StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic. There is literally nothing wrong with my response You said you feel like the guy being African American would have caused more topics to be made about this I replied by saying that the people who usually make said topics already discussed this news in an existing topic, therefore negating the necessity of making more topics I will break this down one more time for you then I am moving on from it. I never once said you guys didn't discuss it. I said I feel if a racial angle could have been attributed to the situation that you guys would have probably put more importance and stressed more the situation by making multiple topics regarding it individually. Your response has zero to do with what I was saying. I never once said anything regarding you not discussing it. I am comparing to the specific creation of topics regarding supposed institutional racism in regards to supposed police brutality against African Americans in situations such as this versus there not being as much emphasis to even create a specific topic dedicated to this specific topic. I attributed this to a lack of race angle in the situation. Yes. Anyways. Now that you know what I specifically said. Back on topic. The shooting was justified as they were called to a scene of a man supposedly aiming a gun outside of a window at people which basically is a situation with shades of Las Vegas all over it in nature. The man was told if he dropped his hands and did not comply he would be shot in clear and loud orders. The man did not comply. And was shot. Thus, the charges being dropped seems not off base. The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891868024] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if this guy was African American there would have been three topics on here already. </quote> It's already been talked about in the Politics topic by the people that usually would make said topics</quote> Need to learn to respond to what was actually said. I never said anything in reference to what you just responded to. Anyways back on topic.</quote> There is literally nothing wrong with my response You said you feel like the guy being African American would have caused more topics to be made about this I replied by saying that the people who usually make said topics already discussed this news in an existing topic, therefore negating the necessity of making more topics</quote> I will break this down one more time for you then I am moving on from it. I never once said you guys didn't discuss it. I said I feel if a racial angle could have been attributed to the situation that you guys would have probably put more importance and stressed more the situation by making multiple topics regarding it individually. Your response has zero to do with what I was saying. I never once said anything regarding you not discussing it. I am comparing to the specific creation of topics regarding supposed institutional racism in regards to supposed police brutality against African Americans in situations such as this versus there not being as much emphasis to even create a specific topic dedicated to this specific topic. I attributed this to a lack of race angle in the situation. Yes. Anyways. Now that you know what I specifically said. Back on topic. The shooting was justified as they were called to a scene of a man supposedly aiming a gun outside of a window at people which basically is a situation with shades of Las Vegas all over it in nature. The man was told if he dropped his hands and did not comply he would be shot in clear and loud orders. The man did not comply. And was shot. Thus, the charges being dropped seems not off base. The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:46:20 AM #9:	ninkendo posted... aww they pixelated it out There is videos with no censorship. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891868053] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>ninkendo posted...</cite> <quote>aww they pixelated it out</quote> There is videos with no censorship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 12/09/17 2:01:37 AM #10:	Corrik posted... The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified. Justified that they took longer than necessary to subdue the guy, by making him go through incredibly demanding hoops to come towards them? This was an execution and a sad state of what American police are trained to do. --- So? https://imgur.com/GC44SXO <cite>Pokewars posted [p:891868612] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified.</quote> Justified that they took longer than necessary to subdue the guy, by making him go through incredibly demanding hoops to come towards them? This was an execution and a sad state of what American police are trained to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 2:02:29 AM #11:	Pokewars posted... Corrik posted... The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified. Justified that they took longer than necessary to subdue the guy, by making him go through incredibly demanding hoops to come towards them? This was an execution and a sad state of what American police are trained to do. I disagree --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891868646] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pokewars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>The only issue I have is how fucked up they made that situation with stupid commands. How do you crawl forwards with your legs crossed and hands held high. It is a bit silly. Could have been handled better but in the end they were justified.</quote> Justified that they took longer than necessary to subdue the guy, by making him go through incredibly demanding hoops to come towards them? This was an execution and a sad state of what American police are trained to do.</quote> I disagree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 12/09/17 2:10:24 AM #12:	Imagine having multiple guns pointed at you, you've been drinking, and they're yelling commands that seem to contradict what a human body can normally do. You're crying and begging them not to shoot and you seem to be trying to comply with every single thing an officer is ordering you to do. An officer at this point, should have the ability to reason that this person is a non-threat. That's what the point of becoming a police officer is. To be trained in de-escalating a situation and recognizing legitimate threats. Otherwise, what is the point of all this training if an officer can just shoot someone to death when they get jumpy? Other countries don't have this kind of thing when dealing with even more violent situations. --- So? https://imgur.com/GC44SXO <cite>Pokewars posted [p:891868890] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>Imagine having multiple guns pointed at you, you've been drinking, and they're yelling commands that seem to contradict what a human body can normally do. You're crying and begging them not to shoot and you seem to be trying to comply with every single thing an officer is ordering you to do. An officer at this point, should have the ability to reason that this person is a non-threat. That's what the point of becoming a police officer is. To be trained in de-escalating a situation and recognizing legitimate threats. Otherwise, what is the point of all this training if an officer can just shoot someone to death when they get jumpy? Other countries don't have this kind of thing when dealing with even more violent situations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 2:13:23 AM #13:	Pokewars posted... Imagine having multiple guns pointed at you, you've been drinking, and they're yelling commands that seem to contradict what a human body can normally do. You're crying and begging them not to shoot and you seem to be trying to comply with every single thing an officer is ordering you to do. An officer at this point, should have the ability to reason that this person is a non-threat. That's what the point of becoming a police officer is. To be trained in de-escalating a situation and recognizing legitimate threats. Otherwise, what is the point of all this training if an officer can just shoot someone to death when they get jumpy? Other countries don't have this kind of thing when dealing with even more violent situations. I could maybe go with this if the call to the scene wasn't that a man was pointing a gun out the window at people. This implies armed and likely dangerous. I agree they could have handled it better. However, any time a cop says don't do this or we will shoot you and you do it... I mean that's clear justification to a court every time --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891868974] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pokewars posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine having multiple guns pointed at you, you've been drinking, and they're yelling commands that seem to contradict what a human body can normally do. You're crying and begging them not to shoot and you seem to be trying to comply with every single thing an officer is ordering you to do. An officer at this point, should have the ability to reason that this person is a non-threat. That's what the point of becoming a police officer is. To be trained in de-escalating a situation and recognizing legitimate threats. Otherwise, what is the point of all this training if an officer can just shoot someone to death when they get jumpy? Other countries don't have this kind of thing when dealing with even more violent situations.</quote> I could maybe go with this if the call to the scene wasn't that a man was pointing a gun out the window at people. This implies armed and likely dangerous. I agree they could have handled it better. However, any time a cop says don't do this or we will shoot you and you do it... I mean that's clear justification to a court every time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 12/09/17 2:21:18 AM #14:	The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives? --- So? https://imgur.com/GC44SXO <cite>Pokewars posted [p:891869206] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 12/09/17 2:22:39 AM #15:	And the initial call is what brings police on the scene. It shouldn't mean "The call we got is exactly the way it is and we should treat every scenario as if it's us vs. them." --- So? https://imgur.com/GC44SXO <cite>Pokewars posted [p:891869242] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>And the initial call is what brings police on the scene. It shouldn't mean "The call we got is exactly the way it is and we should treat every scenario as if it's us vs. them."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 2:23:59 AM #16:	Pokewars posted... And the initial call is what brings police on the scene. It shouldn't mean "The call we got is exactly the way it is and we should treat every scenario as if it's us vs. them." Looks to me like a damn tactical team came to the scene. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891869283] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pokewars posted...</cite> <quote>And the initial call is what brings police on the scene. It shouldn't mean "The call we got is exactly the way it is and we should treat every scenario as if it's us vs. them."</quote> Looks to me like a damn tactical team came to the scene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 2:24:38 AM #17:	Pokewars posted... The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives? Not handling it perfect doesn't make it an "execution" --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891869303] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pokewars posted...</cite> <quote>The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives?</quote> Not handling it perfect doesn't make it an "execution"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pokewars 12/09/17 2:29:51 AM #18:	It makes it at the VERY LEAST negligent homicide. And that's being super generous. If this were anyone OTHER than a cop, man is seen as guilty. Easily. Different standards for cops, but not when it comes to important standards: like assessing the situation a bit differently than average joe ready to pull the trigger. This is an indictment on the way police forces are trained overall. If that's what people are trained to do in academies, there needs to be some serious reform. --- So? https://imgur.com/GC44SXO <cite>Pokewars posted [p:891869474] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>It makes it at the VERY LEAST negligent homicide. And that's being super generous. If this were anyone OTHER than a cop, man is seen as guilty. Easily. Different standards for cops, but not when it comes to important standards: like assessing the situation a bit differently than average joe ready to pull the trigger. This is an indictment on the way police forces are trained overall. If that's what people are trained to do in academies, there needs to be some serious reform.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 12/09/17 2:32:46 AM #19:	Corrik posted... Pokewars posted... The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives? Not handling it perfect doesn't make it an "execution" jesus christ corrik taking a human life is many steps below imperfection --- http://i.imgur.com/U7qSWmn.jpg something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:891869554] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pokewars posted...</cite> <quote>The point is not to have such a binary ultimatum. The police are in complete control (or supposed to be) of the situation. You're saying one mistake by a person who is clearly frightened for their life in a split second is justification for someone to shoot them dead? Police don't have carte blanche to just make up insane orders or else they shoot. You already admitted they could have handled it better. So police have zero accountability because you're ignoring all the things leading up to the death by saying "Sure, could have handled that better" but then that means they were ultimately justified in pulling the trigger when they clearly had better alternatives?</quote> Not handling it perfect doesn't make it an "execution"</quote> jesus christ corrik taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 12/09/17 2:57:38 AM #20:	CelesMyUserName posted... taking a human life is many steps below imperfection yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:891870231] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 12/09/17 3:51:47 AM #21:	Kenri posted... CelesMyUserName posted... taking a human life is many steps below imperfection yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:891871533] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason</quote> Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 4:00:26 AM #22:	StealThisSheen posted... Kenri posted... CelesMyUserName posted... taking a human life is many steps below imperfection yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891871719] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason</quote> Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts</quote> Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 12/09/17 4:29:09 AM #23:	StealThisSheen posted... Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts Am I supposed to waste smart posts on him??? Also I didn't respond to Corrik. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:891872354] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts</quote> Am I supposed to waste smart posts on him??? Also I didn't respond to Corrik.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/09/17 6:17:21 AM #24:	Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Kenri posted... CelesMyUserName posted... taking a human life is many steps below imperfection yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you. This is rich considering you literally dont understand why topics werent made. The people who would have made the topics youre not seeing stick to the politics containment topic to not clutter the board. It was discussed there. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:891874326] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason</quote> Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts</quote> Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you.</quote> This is rich considering you literally dont understand why topics werent made. The people who would have made the topics youre not seeing stick to the politics containment topic to not clutter the board. It was discussed there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/09/17 6:23:20 AM #25:	Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:891874424] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/09/17 7:31:17 AM #26:	glad corrik is here to fill the "HAD IT BEEN A BLACK GUY YOU GUYS WOULD'VE BEEN OUTRAGED LOL" void now that timjab's gone. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:891875615] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>glad corrik is here to fill the "HAD IT BEEN A BLACK GUY YOU GUYS WOULD'VE BEEN OUTRAGED LOL" void now that timjab's gone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 10:52:58 AM #27:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful. You could tell the guy was drunk? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891881575] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful.</quote> You could tell the guy was drunk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 10:57:57 AM #28:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Kenri posted... CelesMyUserName posted... taking a human life is many steps below imperfection yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you. This is rich considering you literally dont understand why topics werent made. The people who would have made the topics youre not seeing stick to the politics containment topic to not clutter the board. It was discussed there. This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891881778] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CelesMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>taking a human life is many steps below imperfection</quote> yeah but police have a job that's almost as dangerous as pizza delivery so we should forgive them for murdering people for no reason</quote> Why do we need to respond to stupid Corrik posts with other stupid posts</quote> Sorry, but my posts are not stupid. You can't even properly read posts and intent which says way more about you.</quote> This is rich considering you literally dont understand why topics werent made. The people who would have made the topics youre not seeing stick to the politics containment topic to not clutter the board. It was discussed there.</quote> This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 12/09/17 11:30:01 AM #29:	As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:891883168] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 11:32:28 AM #30:	Dancedreamer posted... As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891883272] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 12/09/17 11:36:26 AM #31:	Corrik posted... Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Pulling up your pants is an offense worthy of death? Those in power should be held to higher standards than everyone else. Not lower standards. I'm not sure why people find this weird. When you've got power, the potential to abuse it is strong, and thus those with power should be held to high standards. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:891883439] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? </quote> Pulling up your pants is an offense worthy of death? Those in power should be held to higher standards than everyone else. Not lower standards. I'm not sure why people find this weird. When you've got power, the potential to abuse it is strong, and thus those with power should be held to high standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 12/09/17 11:37:06 AM #32:	Corrik posted... Dancedreamer posted... As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Because the victim is DEAD. What more punishment could he possibly receive? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:891883474] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation?</quote> Because the victim is DEAD. What more punishment could he possibly receive?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 11:46:29 AM #33:	Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Pulling up your pants is an offense worthy of death? Those in power should be held to higher standards than everyone else. Not lower standards. I'm not sure why people find this weird. When you've got power, the potential to abuse it is strong, and thus those with power should be held to high standards. So he did nothing besides pull his pants up? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891883873] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? </quote> Pulling up your pants is an offense worthy of death? Those in power should be held to higher standards than everyone else. Not lower standards. I'm not sure why people find this weird. When you've got power, the potential to abuse it is strong, and thus those with power should be held to high standards.</quote> So he did nothing besides pull his pants up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/09/17 11:47:04 AM #34:	Corrik posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful. You could tell the guy was drunk? How could you not? Watch his legs when the officer tells him to cross them, he is clearly confused as it takes him multiple tries. At one point he fucks up and immediately puts boths his hands behind his back exactly as you would if you're being arrested (in fact, the Police Departments official report on the incident specifically states this). Corrik posted... This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said. This is an inherently political topic, but nice try. Corrik posted... Dancedreamer posted... As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Maybe the dumbest post you've ever made. An innocent man is dead, and you're asking why he isn't being held accountable and the cop who literally got not guilty is? The fuck? There were 6 cops on the scene. Only 1 of them shot the guy. Tell me he was doing exactly what he was trained to do. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:891883903] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful.</quote> You could tell the guy was drunk?</quote> How could you not? Watch his legs when the officer tells him to cross them, he is clearly confused as it takes him multiple tries. At one point he fucks up and immediately puts boths his hands behind his back exactly as you would if you're being arrested (in fact, the Police Departments official report on the incident specifically states this). <cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said. </quote> This is an inherently political topic, but nice try. <cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation?</quote> Maybe the dumbest post you've ever made. An innocent man is dead, and you're asking why he isn't being held accountable and the cop who literally got not guilty is? The fuck? There were 6 cops on the scene. Only 1 of them shot the guy. Tell me he was doing exactly what he was trained to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 11:50:28 AM #35:	Inviso posted... Corrik posted... Dancedreamer posted... As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Because the victim is DEAD. What more punishment could he possibly receive? Nobody said he should receive more punishment. Nor did anyone say he had to be killed. I said, why isn't the victim being held accountable that the police told him loud and clearly if he did not follow their commands precisely that he would be shot, that he failed to follow those commands, and he was shot due to this. When an officer of the law legally tells you the consequences clearly, and you do something you were told not to in order to bring about those consequences, shouldn't you be held accountable that you reaped those consequences? I mean. Maybe maybe not. But, at the very least, you can see why this would be justified as far as the legal system is concerned. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891884072] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inviso posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation?</quote> Because the victim is DEAD. What more punishment could he possibly receive?</quote> Nobody said he should receive more punishment. Nor did anyone say he had to be killed. I said, why isn't the victim being held accountable that the police told him loud and clearly if he did not follow their commands precisely that he would be shot, that he failed to follow those commands, and he was shot due to this. When an officer of the law legally tells you the consequences clearly, and you do something you were told not to in order to bring about those consequences, shouldn't you be held accountable that you reaped those consequences? I mean. Maybe maybe not. But, at the very least, you can see why this would be justified as far as the legal system is concerned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 11:52:16 AM #36:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Corrik posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful. You could tell the guy was drunk? How could you not? Watch his legs when the officer tells him to cross them, he is clearly confused as it takes him multiple tries. At one point he fucks up and immediately puts boths his hands behind his back exactly as you would if you're being arrested (in fact, the Police Departments official report on the incident specifically states this). Corrik posted... This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said. This is an inherently political topic, but nice try. Corrik posted... Dancedreamer posted... As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable. Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation? Maybe the dumbest post you've ever made. An innocent man is dead, and you're asking why he isn't being held accountable and the cop who literally got not guilty is? The fuck? There were 6 cops on the scene. Only 1 of them shot the guy. Tell me he was doing exactly what he was trained to do. I think you would be a very poor judgment of who is drunk or not. Confusion has zero to do with being drunk. You only are saying that because of outside factors. It is not a political topic. Not that it matters whether it is or not. Has zero point towards the initial comment. No. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891884149] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>Also I dont get how anyone can think this was justified. I watched the video and saw a clearly drunk guy crying asking not to be shot, a cop literally saying if you fall, you better hit face first or youre going to die and then this drunk guy got scared and died. Dead because he didnt perfectly follow instructions while drunk. Thats it. Fucking awful.</quote> You could tell the guy was drunk?</quote> How could you not? Watch his legs when the officer tells him to cross them, he is clearly confused as it takes him multiple tries. At one point he fucks up and immediately puts boths his hands behind his back exactly as you would if you're being arrested (in fact, the Police Departments official report on the incident specifically states this). <cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>This post again misses what I said. At this point it is almost like purposely playing dense. I have already hand held the intent. I am glad you guys discussed a non-political topic some in your politics topic. Kudos. However, that has nothing again to do with what I said. </quote> This is an inherently political topic, but nice try. <cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>As I said in the other topic, police need to be held accountable. This was at the very least manslaughter. The officer should be in jail, and have to pay the family a substantial amount of money. This was 100% avoidable.</quote> Why is the officer being held accountable for doing as he was probably trained to do but not the victim being held accountable in this situation?</quote> Maybe the dumbest post you've ever made. An innocent man is dead, and you're asking why he isn't being held accountable and the cop who literally got not guilty is? The fuck? There were 6 cops on the scene. Only 1 of them shot the guy. Tell me he was doing exactly what he was trained to do.</quote> I think you would be a very poor judgment of who is drunk or not. Confusion has zero to do with being drunk. You only are saying that because of outside factors. It is not a political topic. Not that it matters whether it is or not. Has zero point towards the initial comment. No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/09/17 11:54:07 AM #37:	At one point the cop literally says "If you do that again, we are shooting you. Do you understand?" and the guy says "No, please don't shoot me." The victim says "Yes sir" and "No sir" constantly, and was trying his best to comply. To be clear: He committed zero crime and was literally killed for making a simple mistake. Corrik the fact you're ok with this is horrifying. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:891884241] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>At one point the cop literally says "If you do that again, we are shooting you. Do you understand?" and the guy says "No, please don't shoot me." The victim says "Yes sir" and "No sir" constantly, and was trying his best to comply. To be clear: He committed zero crime and was literally killed for making a simple mistake. Corrik the fact you're ok with this is horrifying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/09/17 11:55:11 AM #38:	Corrik posted... I think you would be a very poor judgment of who is drunk or not. Confusion has zero to do with being drunk. You only are saying that because of outside factors. Classic Corrik gaslighting bullshit. The first time I saw the actual video I had no idea about the situation and that he WAS drunk, and I literally said to a friend who showed it to me "dude is that guy drunk?". --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:891884282] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I think you would be a very poor judgment of who is drunk or not. Confusion has zero to do with being drunk. You only are saying that because of outside factors. </quote> Classic Corrik gaslighting bullshit. The first time I saw the actual video I had no idea about the situation and that he WAS drunk, and I literally said to a friend who showed it to me "dude is that guy drunk?".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 12/09/17 12:00:27 PM #39:	That's really horrible and there wasn't a reason to shoot this guy. He was probably so fucking terrified he was gonna die that he couldn't follow what he was being told and he got killed <cite>swordz9 posted [p:891884533] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>That's really horrible and there wasn't a reason to shoot this guy. He was probably so fucking terrified he was gonna die that he couldn't follow what he was being told and he got killed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 12/09/17 12:09:09 PM #40:	Corrik posted... So he did nothing besides pull his pants up? What else did he do, that would warrant the police officer shooting him? Please do tell. What he did was worthy of death. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:891884925] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>So he did nothing besides pull his pants up? </quote> What else did he do, that would warrant the police officer shooting him? Please do tell. What he did was worthy of death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 12/09/17 12:11:08 PM #41:	I mean at the very least the officer could've kicked the guy in the head while he was crawling on his hands and knees and it likely would've knocked the guy out or kept him from moving. There are so many ways this could've ended without the guy dying and I'm amazed literally nobody walked over and arrested him while he was on the floor <cite>swordz9 posted [p:891885026] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote>I mean at the very least the officer could've kicked the guy in the head while he was crawling on his hands and knees and it likely would've knocked the guy out or kept him from moving. There are so many ways this could've ended without the guy dying and I'm amazed literally nobody walked over and arrested him while he was on the floor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:12:16 PM #42:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... At one point the cop literally says "If you do that again, we are shooting you. Do you understand?" and the guy says "No, please don't shoot me." The victim says "Yes sir" and "No sir" constantly, and was trying his best to comply. To be clear: He committed zero crime and was literally killed for making a simple mistake. Corrik the fact you're ok with this is horrifying. I do agree he was trying to comply to the best of his ability and it was hard to comply due to an overly complex issuance of commands. We can agree on that at least. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891888231] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>At one point the cop literally says "If you do that again, we are shooting you. Do you understand?" and the guy says "No, please don't shoot me." The victim says "Yes sir" and "No sir" constantly, and was trying his best to comply. To be clear: He committed zero crime and was literally killed for making a simple mistake. Corrik the fact you're ok with this is horrifying.</quote> I do agree he was trying to comply to the best of his ability and it was hard to comply due to an overly complex issuance of commands. We can agree on that at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:13:20 PM #43:	Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... So he did nothing besides pull his pants up? What else did he do, that would warrant the police officer shooting him? Please do tell. What he did was worthy of death. I feel like a lot more people would be shot if people were being shot by police for pulling their pants up. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891888289] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>So he did nothing besides pull his pants up? </quote> What else did he do, that would warrant the police officer shooting him? Please do tell. What he did was worthy of death.</quote> I feel like a lot more people would be shot if people were being shot by police for pulling their pants up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 12/09/17 1:17:43 PM #44:	swordz9 posted... I mean at the very least the officer could've kicked the guy in the head while he was crawling on his hands and knees and it likely would've knocked the guy out or kept him from moving. There are so many ways this could've ended without the guy dying and I'm amazed literally nobody walked over and arrested him while he was on the floor Definitely agree this could have been handled better. I do see it on the other foot though that the police probably felt they were responding to a terrorist/mass shooter suspect upon the call into 911 that was thought to be armed and dangerous. It is sad the person was shot. It could have been handled much better so that outcome did not come about. However, that is never going to not be justified in the court of law. Thought to be possibly armed and dangerous. Was warned loudly and clearly. Moves hands against orders to belt line/clothing compartment area. That is going to be justified in the court of law every time. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:891888496] in Police (in... [t:76078430]...</cite> <quote><cite>swordz9 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean at the very least the officer could've kicked the guy in the head while he was crawling on his hands and knees and it likely would've knocked the guy out or kept him from moving. There are so many ways this could've ended without the guy dying and I'm amazed literally nobody walked over and arrested him while he was on the floor</quote> Definitely agree this could have been handled better. I do see it on the other foot though that the police probably felt they were responding to a terrorist/mass shooter suspect upon the call into 911 that was thought to be armed and dangerous. It is sad the person was shot. It could have been handled much better so that outcome did not come about. However, that is never going to not be justified in the court of law. Thought to be possibly armed and dangerous. Was warned loudly and clearly. Moves hands against orders to belt line/clothing compartment area. That is going to be justified in the court of law every time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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