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Neoconkers
12/06/17 7:09:30 PM
#51:


just what i want to invest heavily in, a heavily fluctuating currency that virtually nobody takes.

places aren't going to accept bitcoin while the value is so volatile
bitcoin's value isn't going to steady until places accept it

hell, Steam just cut ties with bitcoin as a currency because it was too volatile to handle to be profitable. They were losing like $20 a transaction with bitcoin.
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Crazyman93
12/06/17 7:16:02 PM
#52:


Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.
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wolverinev2
12/06/17 7:19:28 PM
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The one thing people are forgetting is that once you publish on how you made money. You can no longer capitalize on that same idea. And I really hesitant to trust something like Bitcoin with all fees and how a lot of places don't except it as tender. Hell, Steam cut ties with it.
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GuyCarlPeterson
12/06/17 7:21:06 PM
#54:


I been trying to figure out how to buy Iota. No luck so far.
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Ballstopshere
12/06/17 7:27:17 PM
#55:


Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though
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Crazyman93
12/06/17 7:30:46 PM
#56:


Ballstopshere posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though

The SEC is the more important one. They're the ones in charge of regulating stock and commodity trading, and last I heard, they considered Bitcoin a Security, so places that trade it would be subject to SEC regulations, same as the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ.
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XXHornDogXX
12/06/17 7:36:06 PM
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A lot of doomsayers in this thread. Either way, for anyone who doesnt know much about Bitcoin and is thinking of starting to invest, its up to you really. Ultimately, nobody knows and can predict the future. A year from now BTC could be worth 50k or be worth $1 USD.

Theres a lot of chicken littles here spouting how its gunna crash and the bubble will pop soon just because the price has been skyrocketing as of lately. But then these same people would cry that they would have been millionaires if held on to BTC if it reaches numbers that make 14k look insignificant. People sold their 100s of BTC years ago when they were $100 each. Now your constantly coming across posts of them crying and whining how they could have been rich.

Im not saying its a good investment or not. I do not know any better than the next guy. The best financial guru couldnt predict whether itll crash or skyrocket further. Maybe it will crash, but all evidence so far points upwards. Years ago credit and credit cards were unheard of. People would have thought youre insane if you brought up such a concept. Now a days, how often do you make purchases with cash compared to credit/debit cards? Something to think about.
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DifferentialEquation
12/06/17 7:39:21 PM
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btw, this is a very relaxing site

http://www.bitlisten.com/
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kinetika_
12/06/17 7:40:21 PM
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I wish the alts would go up. I finally bought some alts, and its all bitcoin right now ffs
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Returning_CEmen
12/06/17 7:45:19 PM
#60:


Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though

The SEC is the more important one. They're the ones in charge of regulating stock and commodity trading, and last I heard, they considered Bitcoin a Security, so places that trade it would be subject to SEC regulations, same as the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ.

Who gave them that authority?
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Ballstopshere
12/06/17 7:47:25 PM
#61:


Eth and LTE going down

Bitcoin might hit 15 by tomorrow morning
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iamintents
12/06/17 7:54:09 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
iamintents posted...
Let mine run up then bought some alts

ETHBTC ratio is getting absolutely battered.

It's absurd how badly BTC is leaving everything in the dust.

Best case scenario BTC flies up to something stupid like 40K and corrects to 20K and all the alts recover to their typical ratios.

Could totally see that happening that's why I kept some
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iamintents
12/06/17 7:57:50 PM
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quick question : I have a small amounts of some coins on bitrex, nothing of high value, should I leave them there or move to my wallet?
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1NfamousACE_2
12/06/17 8:02:07 PM
#64:


i should have bought a whole bitcoin when it was 5400

i only bought $100 worth

fuck me
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Crazyman93
12/06/17 8:18:22 PM
#65:


Returning_CEmen posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though

The SEC is the more important one. They're the ones in charge of regulating stock and commodity trading, and last I heard, they considered Bitcoin a Security, so places that trade it would be subject to SEC regulations, same as the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ.

Who gave them that authority?

https://www.sec.gov

Gee, I wonder. Pretty sure it was FDR
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Turbam
12/06/17 8:19:07 PM
#66:


I got 100 dollars in bitcoin now.
Imma be rich!!!
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Returning_CEmen
12/06/17 9:07:13 PM
#67:


Crazyman93 posted...
Returning_CEmen posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though

The SEC is the more important one. They're the ones in charge of regulating stock and commodity trading, and last I heard, they considered Bitcoin a Security, so places that trade it would be subject to SEC regulations, same as the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ.

Who gave them that authority?

https://www.sec.gov

Gee, I wonder. Pretty sure it was FDR

No, I mean Bitcoin was created in part to be free of government control. Why does the SEC suddenly think they can regulate it.
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Tmaster148
12/06/17 9:09:38 PM
#68:


Returning_CEmen posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Returning_CEmen posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
as much as i think bitcoin is a scam, its free money right now

Not for much longer, the IRS is taking notice, so is the SEC.

how so? the only thing the irs can do is make you pay taxes on your gains, thats nothing to cry over though

The SEC is the more important one. They're the ones in charge of regulating stock and commodity trading, and last I heard, they considered Bitcoin a Security, so places that trade it would be subject to SEC regulations, same as the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ.

Who gave them that authority?

https://www.sec.gov

Gee, I wonder. Pretty sure it was FDR

No, I mean Bitcoin was created in part to be free of government control. Why does the SEC suddenly think they can regulate it.


Because people make money using it and therefore it's additional income which can be taxed according to us tax laws.

Bitcoin has pretty much failed to be the dream of a government free currency.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/06/17 9:13:24 PM
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You only make money if you turn it into the USD
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wolverinev2
12/06/17 9:28:12 PM
#70:


Kind of hard to make something that is "Free of Government Control" when you start making enough of an income off of it. The IRS and Government won't care or pay attention if you made like $50 or $100 one time off of Bitcoin or anything really. But, once you start making "bank" or lots of money off of it. They start paying attention.

If you really want to be "Free of Government Control." Then fake your death, go into hiding with your Bitcoin money and move to a tropical Island. That way.. Now you're free of Government control.
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Tmaster148
12/06/17 9:31:00 PM
#71:


wolverinev2 posted...
Kind of hard to make something that is "Free of Government Control" when you start making enough of an income off of it. The IRS and Government won't care or pay attention if you made like $50 or $100 one time off of Bitcoin or anything really. But, once you start making "bank" or lots of money off of it. They start paying attention.

If you really want to be "Free of Government Control." Then fake your death, go into hiding with your Bitcoin money and move to a tropical Island. That way.. Now you're free of Government control.


The other thing is there's a record of it. By nature of bitcoin transactions they are all recorded. Government can't really do much about transactions that have no record even if you move a ton of money through them.
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Crazyman93
12/06/17 9:42:19 PM
#72:


Returning_CEmen posted...
No, I mean Bitcoin was created in part to be free of government control. Why does the SEC suddenly think they can regulate it.

Why would a government agency think they can regulate something that is acting as something they're empowered to regulate? You cannot possibly be so dense as to need an answer.
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Cookie Bag
12/06/17 9:45:22 PM
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wolverinev2
12/06/17 9:48:21 PM
#74:


Looking into it. You can't regulate the Bitcoin/Crypo-currency itself. BUT, the moment people start selling it and converting it to actual money.. That is when the IRS and SEC basically start taking control of it and charging you on it.

A lot of people need to realize that. Right now it's basically monopoly money. The Government doesn't care about it, but when you start trading it for REAL money and lots of it... Then you gotta pay the piper.
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Perascamin
12/06/17 10:49:04 PM
#75:


Yeah if you have huge gains through anything, the IRS will take notice.

If you had 500$ of scrap metal and traded it in, it would go unnoticed. If you had 5000$ of scrap metal and traded it all on at once? Then they start noticing.
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Returning_CEmen
12/07/17 1:56:51 AM
#76:


wolverinev2 posted...
Looking into it. You can't regulate the Bitcoin/Crypo-currency itself. BUT, the moment people start selling it and converting it to actual money.. That is when the IRS and SEC basically start taking control of it and charging you on it.

A lot of people need to realize that. Right now it's basically monopoly money. The Government doesn't care about it, but when you start trading it for REAL money and lots of it... Then you gotta pay the piper.

What if you spend it on goods like an iPhone or a house?
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wolverinev2
12/07/17 1:58:35 AM
#77:


Returning_CEmen posted...
wolverinev2 posted...
Looking into it. You can't regulate the Bitcoin/Crypo-currency itself. BUT, the moment people start selling it and converting it to actual money.. That is when the IRS and SEC basically start taking control of it and charging you on it.

A lot of people need to realize that. Right now it's basically monopoly money. The Government doesn't care about it, but when you start trading it for REAL money and lots of it... Then you gotta pay the piper.

What if you spend it on goods like an iPhone or a house?


Good luck getting a bank or any other place to accept Bitcoins as tender. If Steam cut ties with it, I highly doubt a bank or a home seller is going to accept it.

"Sure, I'll accept this imaginary money for my $300k house! =D" Yeah... Not gonna happen anytime soon.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
12/07/17 2:01:19 AM
#78:


My friend both 0.25 worth of bitcoins when it was at 5k months ago. He said he just wants to try it.

Shit
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Rob Cesternino
12/07/17 5:11:24 AM
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$15,000.
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Ballstopshere
12/07/17 5:12:35 AM
#80:


shiiiiiii

i assume the jump is because of the alt coins jump and people selling those for btc
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fire_bolt
12/07/17 6:55:40 AM
#81:


I fucking had a chance to get in when BTC was at like 25 cents per coin. A friend explained it to me in great detail one day because he was buying $100 of it on a whim and I was like "lolno this is a scam unless you're a miner" and passed. He's still got his coins and I'm feeling stupid lol
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XplodnPnguins92
12/07/17 7:00:44 AM
#82:


went from 15.9k to 14.9k in less than a minute. please stabilize already..
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clearaflagrantj
12/07/17 7:11:19 AM
#83:


fire_bolt posted...
I fucking had a chance to get in when BTC was at like 25 cents per coin. A friend explained it to me in great detail one day because he was buying $100 of it on a whim and I was like "lolno this is a scam unless you're a miner" and passed. He's still got his coins and I'm feeling stupid lol

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ToucheAmore
12/07/17 7:11:21 AM
#84:


fire_bolt posted...
I fucking had a chance to get in when BTC was at like 25 cents per coin. A friend explained it to me in great detail one day because he was buying $100 of it on a whim and I was like "lolno this is a scam unless you're a miner" and passed. He's still got his coins and I'm feeling stupid lol

Hey at least youre close friends with a millionaire now. Thats pretty cool.
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Ballstopshere
12/07/17 9:51:16 AM
#85:


16k soon, we are experiencing a second boom.

in 5 months people who said they missed out now will be saying I missed out 5 months ago
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clearaflagrantj
12/07/17 9:55:53 AM
#86:


Ballstopshere posted...
16k soon, we are experiencing a second boom.

in 5 months people who said they missed out now will be saying I missed out 5 months ago

They'll never learn
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DifferentialEquation
12/07/17 10:00:04 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Ballstopshere posted...
16k soon, we are experiencing a second boom.

in 5 months people who said they missed out now will be saying I missed out 5 months ago

They'll never learn


I think people are learning. So far, no one in this topic (or the last few) was under the impression that you have to buy whole bitcoins.
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lesidesi
12/07/17 10:25:25 AM
#88:


sold down about half of my remaining bitcoins over the past day
~24 left and will hang on a bit more
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