Current Events > Gay men are now earning more money than straight men

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ollie89
12/05/17 1:35:53 PM
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https://hbr.org/2017/12/gay-men-used-to-earn-less-than-straight-men-now-they-earn-more
Acceptance of LGBTQ people in all spheres of society work, family, and community has grown at a remarkable pace in the United States. A recent Pew Research Foundation study reported that 92% of all LGBTQ adults felt that society is more accepting of them than a decade ago, and 87% of adults report personally knowing someone who is gay or lesbian (up from 61% in 1993). Same-sex couples throughout the country can now get legally married after the 2015 Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v. Hodges. LGBTQ people are highly visible in the media, on television, in the movies, and in the C-suites of major companies like Apple, Google, and IBM. For LGBTQ people, it has certainly seemed as if, in the language of columnist Dan Savages 2010 campaign to combat the epidemic of LGBT youth suicide, It Gets Better.

In a recent paper, a PhD student and I analyzed data from a major federal survey in the United States that had not previously been used in this literature presumably because it only recently began to ask about sexual orientation and found that the gay male earnings penalty had disappeared. And not only had it disappeared, it had turned into a 10% premium, meaning that gay men in recent years earned substantially more than straight men with similar education, experience, and job profiles. We went back through the published literature to see if we were making new or strange measurement or specification choices. We were not. We double- and triple-checked the dataset for other patterns that would indicate some fundamental error or data problem. We found none. We subjected the gay male earnings premium to a host of extra tests to see if we could make the result go away. We could not.

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OpheliaAdenade
12/05/17 1:39:15 PM
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They deserve it. :o They do say that on average gay men have higher IQs than straight men. Now that they aren't being as held back by stigma they can climb the corporate ladder easily.

What about the lesbians though? I thought construction work paid really well?
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ollie89
12/05/17 1:39:26 PM
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It's pretty surprising to be honest.
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ollie89
12/05/17 1:41:17 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Clearly this means straight men are now oppressed

XD
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Questionmarktarius
12/05/17 1:42:19 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Clearly this means straight men are now oppressed

Nah.
It means the same thing it's always meant: having children wrecks your career.
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TroutPaste
12/05/17 1:42:48 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Clearly this means straight men are now oppressed


More like "you oppress people for decades, then the oppressed get equal chances and have additional motivation" (I am a straight man who doesn't make much money)
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DarkChozoGhost
12/05/17 1:43:11 PM
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ollie89 posted...
It's pretty surprising to be honest.

why?
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ollie89
12/05/17 1:43:50 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
ollie89 posted...
It's pretty surprising to be honest.

why?

Because the opposite was true for so long.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/05/17 1:44:06 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't break the study down into tops vs bottoms. I bet more than anything the tops are making more money. :v
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masticatingman
12/05/17 1:48:49 PM
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Not surprising lol.
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DarkChozoGhost
12/05/17 1:51:30 PM
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ollie89 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
ollie89 posted...
It's pretty surprising to be honest.

why?

Because the opposite was true for so long.

But that was because of the stigma. With that heavily broken, there's nothing keeping gay men down. It's not like race where you inherit disadvantages from your parents, and their parent, and theirs ect. It's a level playing field.
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ollie89
12/05/17 1:52:07 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
ollie89 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
ollie89 posted...
It's pretty surprising to be honest.

why?

Because the opposite was true for so long.

But that was because of the stigma. With that heavily broken, there's nothing keeping gay men down. It's not like race where you inherit disadvantages from your parents, and their parent, and theirs ect. It's a level playing field.

Well said.
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TroutPaste
12/05/17 1:54:40 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


lol
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masticatingman
12/05/17 2:00:12 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


Wouldnt be comparable, women have more fluid sexuality
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UnfairRepresent
12/05/17 2:01:03 PM
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I'm slightly bitter that I made this topic and no one posted in it :/
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OpheliaAdenade
12/05/17 2:01:12 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


google it. :v I mean, Milo said it.
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ollie89
12/05/17 2:01:41 PM
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masticatingman posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


Wouldnt be comparable, women have more fluid sexuality

I'm not so sure that fluidity is entirely innate, though.

Societal norms have a huge impact on people's behavior.
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r4X0r
12/05/17 2:02:11 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm slightly bitter that I made this topic and no one posted in it :/


Studies show that gay men are now earning more replies in their threads than straight men.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/05/17 2:04:26 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


google it. :v I mean, Milo said it.


So it's bullshit then


it makes sense to me though. even a stopped clock is right twice a day...
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masticatingman
12/05/17 2:14:50 PM
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ollie89 posted...
masticatingman posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
I'd like to hear more about gay men supposedly having higher IQs than straight men. What studies talk about this? And what about lesbians and straight women?


Wouldnt be comparable, women have more fluid sexuality

I'm not so sure that fluidity is entirely innate, though.

Societal norms have a huge impact on people's behavior.


Not just pulling that statement out of my ass:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4975352/amp/Women-sexually-fluid-men-scientist-says.html
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