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fan357 12/02/17 9:14:38 PM #51: |
pegusus123456 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Ultron was ultimately Stark's fault --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/02/17 9:15:23 PM #52: |
Humanity is generally really really stupid and like to blame the easiest thing they can find for their problems. Of course they would instantly target the avengers instead of threats that they can't handle. Just like in One Punch man,
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Xelltrix 12/02/17 9:18:29 PM #53: |
fusespliff posted...
Just rewatched the clip, yeah there were definitely civilians. I feel like I remember the fact no one died though. They made a point of talking about Tony paying to rebuild the building but nothing about people dying. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 12/02/17 9:20:50 PM #54: |
The MCU civil war is a dumpster fire fueled by dog shit. Thats why (insert complaint here) is a thing.
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Xelltrix 12/02/17 9:21:22 PM #55: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
The MCU civil war is a dumpster fire fueled by dog shit. Thats why (insert complaint here) is a thing. Um, wrong. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 9:26:09 PM #56: |
fusespliff posted...
I could also argue that Hulk wouldn't be tearing up cities if it wasn't for the Avengers (well Fury & Widow) as Bruce purposefully stayed away from heavily populated areas after Harlem. Also the reason why he bailed again at the end of AoU. True, I forgot about how the beginning of Avengers, he was out fixing cleft palates or some shit before Black Widow tracked him down. He seemed fine. TheCyborgNinja posted... The MCU civil war is a dumpster fire fueled by dog shit. Thats why (insert complaint here) is a thing. Imagine actually thinking this --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 12/02/17 9:37:20 PM #57: |
also, Banner was on the run from the military anyway until he joined the Avengers.
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Xelltrix 12/02/17 9:51:44 PM #58: |
I always thought the Thor part was funny since he's literally an alien and they have no jurisdiction over him at all. I suppose they could demand he stop interfering in general which I guess he would agree to, but it's laughable to think he'd ever agree to be controlled by the government of a planet he doesn't even live on.
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prince_leo 12/02/17 9:55:16 PM #59: |
yeah, can you imagine he comes back and is told that he can't do anything about Thanos cause the UN wants to gauge the threat? just lol
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OctilIery 12/02/17 9:57:43 PM #60: |
Avengers 1 was Shields fault. Tony was partly to blame for Ultton, but not really, he was just investigating and Ultron created himself.
In the comics, both Ultton and Civil War and much better moral issues set up. At least the registration program in Civil War made sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/02/17 10:05:23 PM #61: |
OctilIery posted...
Avengers 1 was Shields fault. Tony was partly to blame for Ultton, but not really, he was just investigating and Ultron created himself. Eh, Tony pretty much made Ultron, though I blame it on Scarlet Witch the most, if she didn't mind rape him into seeing all his friends dead, he would have never tried making Ultron. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 10:07:38 PM #62: |
Xelltrix posted...
I always thought the Thor part was funny since he's literally an alien and they have no jurisdiction over him at all. I suppose they could demand he stop interfering in general which I guess he would agree to, but it's laughable to think he'd ever agree to be controlled by the government of a planet he doesn't even live on. Yeah that is amusing. Plus it's not really fair to compare the two since one is a literal god and the other has very little control over whether he decides to fucking rampage or not. LightHawKnight posted... I blame it on Scarlet Witch the most, if she didn't mind rape him into seeing all his friends dead, he would have never tried making Ultron. Good point She wasn't an avenger at the time either, so you can't really say it was the avengers' fault --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 12/02/17 10:30:29 PM #63: |
Yeah, I commented about that as well. We could technically blame Hydra for all of that, I don't think Wanda ever even fessed up to doing that to Tony in the first place. Ultimately he still chose to do it, but it was mind rape, I don't know how much blame you can take away from him for that but we should be able to take away at least a bit of it.
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SlashmanSG 12/02/17 10:31:44 PM #64: |
OctilIery posted...
he was just investigating and Ultron created himself. OctilIery posted... In the comics, both Ultton and Civil War Say it with me. U L T R O N --- Fight Science with Wood http://i.imgur.com/MMRZgNi.gif http://i.imgur.com/Um0p3xx.gif http://i.imgur.com/MIbbUHB.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 12/02/17 10:33:50 PM #65: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Like fuck dude, if we don't stop Ultron then the whole world explodes, not just a few thousand in Sokovia (which, yes, Ultron was ultimately Stark's fault from the beginning, but still). Probably the same reason people shit on Superman because a couple skyscrapers got knocked down in Metropolis instead of turning the entire planet into a Kryptonian Civilization built on a graveyard of humans. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 12/02/17 10:44:28 PM #66: |
Civil War was such a good movie but I couldnt help but laugh at them being threatened by the U.N. and the U.S. military being bummed out and helpless in the matter.
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OctilIery 12/02/17 11:54:44 PM #67: |
LightHawKnight posted...
OctilIery posted...Avengers 1 was Shields fault. Tony was partly to blame for Ultton, but not really, he was just investigating and Ultron created himself. He literally didn't. He did no work on the AI. He left the tests running and went to a party, then Ultron activated and made himself out of the bots. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/02/17 11:56:38 PM #68: |
OctilIery posted...
LightHawKnight posted...OctilIery posted...Avengers 1 was Shields fault. Tony was partly to blame for Ultton, but not really, he was just investigating and Ultron created himself. He literally did. He was working on that AI for the explicit purpose of protecting the world so his friends wont die. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 12/03/17 12:15:55 AM #69: |
OctilIery posted...
He literally didn't. He did no work on the AI. He left the tests running and went to a party, then Ultron activated and made himself out of the bots. Pretty sure they showed him constructing the AI that became Ultron. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 12/03/17 12:28:25 AM #70: |
SlashmanSG posted...
Dash_Harber posted...dave_is_slick posted...Dash_Harber posted...Even if we accept that argument, shouldn't Stark be the only one getting shit on? It's not like it was a committee decision. In which case they wouldn't know the Avengers caused it in the first place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 12/03/17 12:38:11 AM #71: |
The public knows the Avengers were there since they don't exactly hide their involvement. Pretty easy step from there to blame their problems on their protectors.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike Basically. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 12/03/17 12:39:46 AM #72: |
Xelltrix posted...
The public knows the Avengers were there since they don't exactly hide their involvement. Pretty easy step from there to blame their problems on their protectors. Yes, but the defense was that they blame the Avengers because it's technically their fault that it happened (well, one of their members). However, if that is the case, they'd also know it was only Tony, which they don't. Therefore they don't know it was the Avengers that called it, and they are, in fact, pretty stupid for blaming the Avengers given their limited knowledge. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 12/03/17 12:49:24 AM #73: |
LightHawKnight posted...
OctilIery posted...LightHawKnight posted...OctilIery posted...Avengers 1 was Shields fault. Tony was partly to blame for Ultton, but not really, he was just investigating and Ultron created himself. He had the plan, but he never started any work in it. At that point it was only experimenting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 12/03/17 12:50:22 AM #74: |
Xelltrix posted...
OctilIery posted...He literally didn't. He did no work on the AI. He left the tests running and went to a party, then Ultron activated and made himself out of the bots. They didn't considering it came from the staff, not Tony. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/03/17 1:28:36 AM #75: |
OctilIery posted...
Xelltrix posted...OctilIery posted...He literally didn't. He did no work on the AI. He left the tests running and went to a party, then Ultron activated and made himself out of the bots. The staff only gave sentience to whatever AI Tony was using, he made Ultron the way he is. The staff only gave him sentience. Which is why Vision is so good. He is based on Jarvis. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 12/03/17 4:05:32 AM #76: |
Civil War really should have utilized Agents of SHIELD because it had the perfect setup for why people would want to draw up those Accords.
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