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stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:10:38 AM #1:	So why do they talk like there Is? 'Scientism the new religion' <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446627] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>So why do they talk like there Is? 'Scientism the new religion'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:11:26 AM #2:	There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891446653] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 12/02/17 9:12:26 AM #3:	Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:891446695] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 12/02/17 9:13:05 AM #4:	lol yes there is "Scientism" is that rare buzzword that sounds EXACTLY as stupid as it is --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:891446710] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>lol yes there is "Scientism" is that rare buzzword that sounds EXACTLY as stupid as it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:13:28 AM #5:	weapon_d00d816 posted... There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. Outside of our planet. Yawn <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446720] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> Outside of our planet. Yawn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:13:46 AM #6:	butthole666 posted... lol yes there is "Scientism" is that rare buzzword that sounds EXACTLY as stupid as it is Okay evidence of life please. Don't make me repeat outside of our planet please <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446725] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>lol yes there is "Scientism" is that rare buzzword that sounds EXACTLY as stupid as it is</quote> Okay evidence of life please. Don't make me repeat outside of our planet please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 12/02/17 9:14:44 AM #7:	tc is right about science replacing religion though simulation theory is a big one. --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:891446751] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>tc is right about science replacing religion though simulation theory is a big one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:14:53 AM #8:	Lonestar2000 posted... Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life. It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446756] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life.</quote> It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:15:57 AM #9:	stevethewindow posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. Outside of our planet. Yawn Yeah, I read that part. I know. I already incorporated that into my statement. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891446784] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> Outside of our planet. Yawn</quote> Yeah, I read that part. I know. I already incorporated that into my statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:15:58 AM #10:	Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891446785] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 12/02/17 9:17:16 AM #11:	stevethewindow posted... Lonestar2000 posted... Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life. It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:891446813] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life.</quote> It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:17:45 AM #12:	nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446828] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:18:18 AM #13:	Lonestar2000 posted... stevethewindow posted... Lonestar2000 posted... Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life. It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics So I'm stupid to make a point that there is NO evidence <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891446845] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life.</quote> It's not wrong to assume we are either. You have all been reading too many Marvel comics</quote> </quote> So I'm stupid to make a point that there is NO evidence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 12/02/17 9:22:08 AM #14:	weapon_d00d816 posted... There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. What? --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:891446970] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 12/02/17 9:23:16 AM #15:	Scientists know there's life out there already. It used to be a laughing matter to even suggest it was possible but if you see how they talk about it now.. they are conditioning people to accept the fact that we're not alone. They are doing it slowly but it's happening. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/ <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:891447015] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Scientists know there's life out there already. It used to be a laughing matter to even suggest it was possible but if you see how they talk about it now.. they are conditioning people to accept the fact that we're not alone. They are doing it slowly but it's happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:24:59 AM #16:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447058] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:25:24 AM #17:	Vyrulisse posted... Scientists know there's life out there already. It used to be a laughing matter to even suggest it was possible but if you see how they talk about it now.. they are conditioning people to accept the fact that we're not alone. They are doing it slowly but it's happening. But based on no evidence. Are you agreeing with how it's controlling people? Or are you saying it's been known for years and the public is not ready yet so they are slowly trickling information? <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447071] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>Scientists know there's life out there already. It used to be a laughing matter to even suggest it was possible but if you see how they talk about it now.. they are conditioning people to accept the fact that we're not alone. They are doing it slowly but it's happening.</quote> But based on no evidence. Are you agreeing with how it's controlling people? Or are you saying it's been known for years and the public is not ready yet so they are slowly trickling information?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:26:19 AM #18:	Sada_Pop posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. What? "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891447104] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> What?</quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/02/17 9:26:26 AM #19:	No scientist says there must be intelligent life outside Earth unless they're just being hyperbolic about their personal expectation. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:891447109] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>No scientist says there must be intelligent life outside Earth unless they're just being hyperbolic about their personal expectation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 12/02/17 9:26:34 AM #20:	I don't think anyone can ever give a straight answer to this. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:891447112] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>I don't think anyone can ever give a straight answer to this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:26:47 AM #21:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447116] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 9:28:39 AM #22:	stevethewindow posted... So why do they talk like there Is? 'Scientism the new religion' They don't. The most anyone is willing to say is that a planet possesses some of observable factors necessary for maintaining an ecosystem. They notably do not say that a planet possesses all of the necessary and sufficient conditions for maintaining a functional ecosystem. Part of the reason for that is because we don't know all of the necessary and sufficient conditions for maintaining an ecosystem. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891447178] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>So why do they talk like there Is? 'Scientism the new religion'</quote> They don't. The most anyone is willing to say is that a planet possesses some of observable factors necessary for maintaining an ecosystem. They notably do not say that a planet possesses all of the necessary and sufficient conditions for maintaining a functional ecosystem. Part of the reason for that is because we don't know all of the necessary and sufficient conditions for maintaining an ecosystem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 12/02/17 9:29:28 AM #23:	We are being cooked at just the right temperature --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:891447201] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>We are being cooked at just the right temperature</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:30:09 AM #24:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... I don't think you understand the difference between evidence and proof. You mean proof. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891447222] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> I don't think you understand the difference between evidence and proof. You mean proof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 12/02/17 9:30:21 AM #25:	Haven't they already discovered micro particles or some shit --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:891447232] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Haven't they already discovered micro particles or some shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 9:30:43 AM #26:	armandro posted... We are being cooked at just the right temperature It's convenient for life as it exists now, but that's not to say other forms of life couldn't have developed under different circumstances. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891447238] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>We are being cooked at just the right temperature</quote> It's convenient for life as it exists now, but that's not to say other forms of life couldn't have developed under different circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/02/17 9:31:45 AM #27:	stevethewindow posted... But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... Earth is pretty strong evidence for life existing. Life elsewhere may just be far in the past and not evolved yet as well --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:891447270] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> Earth is pretty strong evidence for life existing. Life elsewhere may just be far in the past and not evolved yet as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 12/02/17 9:32:20 AM #28:	weapon_d00d816 posted... There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence. Lonestar2000 posted... Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:891447284] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>There is evidence of life existing. Therefore, life is likely to exist elsewhere. We are the evidence.</quote> <cite>Lonestar2000 posted...</cite> <quote>Considering how vast the universe is it is pretty silly to assume that we are the only form of life.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tor984 12/02/17 9:32:31 AM #29:	Nice <cite>tor984 posted [p:891447289] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 12/02/17 9:32:32 AM #30:	weapon_d00d816 posted... "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:891447291] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:35:21 AM #31:	Sada_Pop posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC. It's kind of irrelevant to need that level of proof just to make the claim that life exists elsewhere. We're not making claims about what that life is like, just that we have proof life is a thing that can happen on a planet. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891447378] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC.</quote> It's kind of irrelevant to need that level of proof just to make the claim that life exists elsewhere. We're not making claims about what that life is like, just that we have proof life is a thing that can happen on a planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:35:30 AM #32:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447386] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:36:30 AM #33:	Sada_Pop posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC. Yes he's conflating people saying "there's probably aliens" with "there must be aliens" --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447416] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC.</quote> Yes he's conflating people saying "there's probably aliens" with "there must be aliens"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:37:06 AM #34:	Sada_Pop posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC. You're absolutely correct. Being devil's advocate I like to see fairness in debate. There is no evidence of this, it's a belief, dreamed up ideas and imagination. Science likes to make a HUGE point that it only bases things from FACT. Sorry to say there is NONE. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447435] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC.</quote> You're absolutely correct. Being devil's advocate I like to see fairness in debate. There is no evidence of this, it's a belief, dreamed up ideas and imagination. Science likes to make a HUGE point that it only bases things from FACT. Sorry to say there is NONE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 9:37:59 AM #35:	Sada_Pop posted... Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. It's also a pretty complex conjecture built on some sweeping assumptions about the scale of universe and the probability of Earth's conditions or other life sustaining ecosystems appearing somewhere else in the universe. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891447455] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote>Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture.</quote> It's also a pretty complex conjecture built on some sweeping assumptions about the scale of universe and the probability of Earth's conditions or other life sustaining ecosystems appearing somewhere else in the universe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wdlp 12/02/17 9:38:47 AM #36:	Pretty sure there are people on the ISS right this moment, tc. Checkmate --- wdlp <cite>wdlp posted [p:891447479] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure there are people on the ISS right this moment, tc. Checkmate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:39:16 AM #37:	stevethewindow posted... Sada_Pop posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability. OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC. You're absolutely correct. Being devil's advocate I like to see fairness in debate. There is no evidence of this, it's a belief, dreamed up ideas and imagination. Science likes to make a HUGE point that it only bases things from FACT. Sorry to say there is NONE. The belief, and you're right it's a belief, but no one argue otherwise, that life exists elsewhere is based on fact. But no scientist will tell you it's a fact that life can originate somewhere else. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447496] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> "No evidence of life existing elsewhere" is an arbitrary qualifier. There is proof of life existing, and therefore evidence that life can exist elsewhere. Saying that there's no evidence for life existing elsewhere is implying that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where conditions favorable for life exist, which is factually incorrect. We've observed Earth's various conditions in exoplanets (and some of our own), and so we know that at least some other planets out there will have them all combined by sheer probability.</quote> OK but what TC is asking for is actually evidence and proof of life existing on these planets. No matter how you choose to word it, it's just conjecture. Saying life must exist elsewhere because we exist here is still conjecture. I assume that he is looking for actual data. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point TC.</quote> You're absolutely correct. Being devil's advocate I like to see fairness in debate. There is no evidence of this, it's a belief, dreamed up ideas and imagination. Science likes to make a HUGE point that it only bases things from FACT. Sorry to say there is NONE.</quote> The belief, and you're right it's a belief, but no one argue otherwise, that life exists elsewhere is based on fact. But no scientist will tell you it's a fact that life can originate somewhere else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FluttershyPony 12/02/17 9:39:28 AM #38:	>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. <cite>FluttershyPony posted [p:891447506] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:40:04 AM #39:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet. So you just assume there is... It's not scientific just go with the idea and belief there is <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447529] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet.</quote> So you just assume there is... It's not scientific just go with the idea and belief there is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 12/02/17 9:40:17 AM #40:	Trolling or not, OP is just the kind of anti-intellectual we can expect to be even more common in the future --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:891447537] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Trolling or not, OP is just the kind of anti-intellectual we can expect to be even more common in the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:40:42 AM #41:	wdlp posted... Pretty sure there are people on the ISS right this moment, tc. Checkmate Shit <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447552] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>wdlp posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure there are people on the ISS right this moment, tc. Checkmate</quote> Shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:41:45 AM #42:	TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891447592] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:42:12 AM #43:	FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. The logic behind a scientism follower <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447606] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> The logic behind a scientism follower</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FluttershyPony 12/02/17 9:43:11 AM #44:	stevethewindow posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. The logic behind a scientism follower >t. guy who thought the sun revolved around earth <cite>FluttershyPony posted [p:891447630] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> The logic behind a scientism follower</quote> >t. guy who thought the sun revolved around earth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:43:34 AM #45:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50% Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly. But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence... To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet. So you just assume there is... It's not scientific to just go with the idea and belief there is As opposed to assuming there is no life, which would actually be an even bigger assumption? Lol again, you keep ignoring the FACT that science has it as undetermined, so we are forced to guess based on the knowledge we have. And we test our hypotheses as soon as we can. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447643] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Cuz there probably is life outside of our planet. You don't need to know something to determine it's probability is above 50%</quote> Wow you just made up a figure of 50% out of nowhere. That's science for you</quote> ... Lol what? If something is probably going to happen, it needs a probability of over 50%. I didn't just pick it willy nilly.</quote> But the probability could be 1% because there is NO evidence...</quote> To get a 1% probability you'd need solid evidence that there is no life outside if this planet, and that does not exist. Probability is based on the information we have, and while limited, our information leans towards there being life outside of our planet.</quote> So you just assume there is... It's not scientific to just go with the idea and belief there is</quote> As opposed to assuming there is no life, which would actually be an even bigger assumption? Lol again, you keep ignoring the FACT that science has it as undetermined, so we are forced to guess based on the knowledge we have. And we test our hypotheses as soon as we can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:43:51 AM #46:	weapon_d00d816 posted... TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll Not at all. I hate hypocrites hammering anyone with a faith based on no evidence too I myself don't follow anything. But I like to keep an open mind. I'm agnostic. I just see hypocrites. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447650] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll</quote> Not at all. I hate hypocrites hammering anyone with a faith based on no evidence too I myself don't follow anything. But I like to keep an open mind. I'm agnostic. I just see hypocrites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 9:44:31 AM #47:	stevethewindow posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. The logic behind a scientism follower The mask is off, TC admits to trolling This topic is now about questioning TC's life path and what led to him becoming a sociopath. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891447672] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> The logic behind a scientism follower</quote> The mask is off, TC admits to trolling This topic is now about questioning TC's life path and what led to him becoming a sociopath.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 9:44:35 AM #48:	stevethewindow posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll Not at all. I hate hypocrites hammering anyone with a faith based on no evidence too I myself don't follow anything. But I like to keep an open mind. I'm agnostic. I just see hypocrites. Science also keeps an open mind, so you're wrong. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891447675] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>TC is one of those nerds obsessed with technicalities and refuses to accept rationality for the sake of argument. AKA a troll</quote> Not at all. I hate hypocrites hammering anyone with a faith based on no evidence too I myself don't follow anything. But I like to keep an open mind. I'm agnostic. I just see hypocrites.</quote> Science also keeps an open mind, so you're wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 9:45:13 AM #49:	FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891447692] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 12/02/17 9:45:16 AM #50:	The probability of us being the only life in the universe is so ridiculously small that I would bet everything I own that we're not alone. The fact that there's no evidence means nothing. It's human arrogance to assume that we would be able to know if there was other life or that the absence of evidence means anything. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:891447693] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>The probability of us being the only life in the universe is so ridiculously small that I would bet everything I own that we're not alone. The fact that there's no evidence means nothing. It's human arrogance to assume that we would be able to know if there was other life or that the absence of evidence means anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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