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Capn Circus
12/01/17 9:52:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lP9p4a4jmc

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Vol2tex
12/01/17 10:37:48 PM
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Antifar
12/01/17 10:38:58 PM
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Blue_Inigo
12/01/17 10:41:05 PM
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Im nervous as fuck tbh. This is a big deal
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KhlavicLanguage
12/01/17 10:41:30 PM
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why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?
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anth0ny
12/01/17 10:42:06 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
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Blue_Inigo
12/01/17 10:42:34 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?

Americans are fucking ignorant
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ScazarMeltex
12/01/17 10:43:06 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Because it's not about anything but sticking it to liberals.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/01/17 10:43:26 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


because they're cucks. I guess they think that the happiness the rich will get from this bill passing will greatly outweigh the suffering it will cause them personally, so the total happiness in the world goes up. :u or something like that.
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hollow_shrine
12/01/17 10:43:38 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?

Because they prioritize our unhappiness more. And many of them on this site aren't old enough to be personally responsible for taking on the impacts of this legislation.
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Damn_Underscore
12/01/17 10:44:34 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/28/upshot/what-the-tax-bill-would-look-like-for-25000-middle-class-families.html

According to this chart, there's really no telling whether you'll benefit from this bill

Edit: If you itemize now and are middle class, you'll most likely pay more now.
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sondast
12/01/17 10:45:12 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?

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tremain07
12/01/17 10:46:43 PM
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I'm sure Cabus and Admiral are watching with their pants off and a finger on the refresh button for a new topic about how bullshit this is.
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DifferentialEquation
12/01/17 10:47:25 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Because it's not about anything but sticking it to liberals.


For liberals, it's not about anything but sticking it to people who actually want to get ahead by working for a living.

"Pay for muh college! Pay for muh healthcare! Free things are muh rights!"
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prince_leo
12/01/17 10:51:02 PM
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Ruvan22
12/01/17 10:53:21 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Because it's not about anything but sticking it to liberals.


For liberals, it's not about anything but sticking it to people who actually want to get ahead by working for a living.

"Pay for muh college! Pay for muh healthcare! Free things are muh rights!"


Really? For me it's about helping those who weren't born with the same fortunes (stable two parent family etc). So am I not a liberal?
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ScazarMeltex
12/01/17 10:57:51 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Because it's not about anything but sticking it to liberals.


For liberals, it's not about anything but sticking it to people who actually want to get ahead by working for a living.

"Pay for muh college! Pay for muh healthcare! Free things are muh rights!"


Get the fuck out of here. I work for a living. What this is going to do is cut both my company's taxes and the owner of said company's personal taxes and raise mine. The owner will take all of that excess wealth and pocket it. The same for damn near every CEO that's been asked what they will do with the money their company will be saving.In the case of shareholder based companies it will go to the shareholders, not the workers. Anyone who says otherwise is an intellectually dishonest sack of shit.
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chaos knight
12/01/17 10:57:56 PM
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Only times I ever turn on CSPAN are when the country is about to be fucked by Republicans. Must see TV!
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sylverlolol
12/01/17 11:03:21 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/28/upshot/what-the-tax-bill-would-look-like-for-25000-middle-class-families.html

According to this chart, there's really no telling whether you'll benefit from this bill

Edit: If you itemize now and are middle class, you'll most likely pay more now.

Huh, my wife and I would apparently owe less under this...but big f'n deal considering how this royally fucks everything else up. Goddamn republicans.

DifferentialEquation posted...
"Pay for muh college! Pay for muh healthcare! Free things are muh rights!"

Why conservatives always spout this yet have no issue with us spending more than twice the amount on our military than the next country just below us...I'll never know.
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Capn Circus
12/01/17 11:54:35 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Lol, I have a pretty decent idea of what I'll be saving and I'm certainly okay with it.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/01/17 11:56:37 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Lol, I have a pretty decent idea of what I'll be saving and I'm certainly okay with it.


You thought you had a decent idea of how many years there are from now till 2027 too. :v Look how that turned out.
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Capn Circus
12/02/17 12:03:38 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
Capn Circus posted...
KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


Lol, I have a pretty decent idea of what I'll be saving and I'm certainly okay with it.


You thought you had a decent idea of how many years there are from now till 2027 too. :v Look how that turned out.


:V that was just a gaffe. Tell me how I'm not going to be getting a bigger tax refund (hint: I am) :V
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OpheliaAdenade
12/02/17 12:08:06 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
:V that was just a gaffe. Tell me how I'm not going to be getting a bigger tax refund (hint: I am) :V


I don't know your life. There are a lot of reasons why your refund could go up or down besides this tax bill. But from your post history, I wouldn't suggest you file your own taxes period. I'd get someone to help you or something.
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KazumaKiryu
12/02/17 12:14:45 AM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
why do trump supporters who are for sure getting screwed by this bill hoping it passes?


It's not screwing anyone. Stop being a brainwashed pawn of the left. The idiocy just never stops. You really think our elected officials are just out there trying to fuck everyone over to help the 1% get richer. I can't imagine being so delusional.
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Capn Circus
12/02/17 12:15:20 AM
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Wow, creepy ex. Hillary VP is doing more obstructing. Such wasted time.

I think it'll pass tonight, though.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/02/17 12:16:11 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
You really think our elected officials are just out there trying to f*** everyone over to help the 1% get richer.


The ones who are literally bought by lobbyists are.
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 12:20:43 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You really think our elected officials are just out there trying to f*** everyone over to help the 1% get richer.


The ones who are literally bought by lobbyists are.

Which would be most of them
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IdiotMachine
12/02/17 12:20:43 AM
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So did it pass or what?
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Polycosm
12/02/17 12:23:31 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
So did it pass or what?
They're voting on amendments right now. Not sure how many they have left to get through. Main vote still upcoming.
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KazumaKiryu
12/02/17 12:25:41 AM
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Why did so many democrats vote against Kaine's amendment? What a fail.
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Capn Circus
12/02/17 12:29:50 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
So did it pass or what?


Not yet. It's pretty clear that it will. Higher ranking Democrats are obstructing at the moment. Schumer called for a delayed vote into Monday, which set the process back about 30+ minutes then failed. Now creepy Tim Kaine said some BS which is currently setting it back some more but is now coming to a close.

Trump wasn't lying--they obstruct and obstruct
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KazumaKiryu
12/02/17 12:40:17 AM
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Geeze, so now another one comes up with the same amendment that everyone, including democrats, already voted against. It really is just to waste time.
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OpheliaAdenade
12/02/17 12:43:30 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Geeze, so now another one comes up with the same amendment that everyone, including democrats, already voted against. It really is just to waste time.


They learned from watching republicans try to obstruct the ACA for like 10 years. :v
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Polycosm
12/02/17 12:54:07 AM
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That should have bought enough time to read another dozen pages, maybe two dozen if they don't have any broken cursive to forensically reconstruct.
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Capn Circus
12/02/17 1:03:16 AM
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This is going to go on late into the night
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kingdrake2
12/02/17 1:04:30 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
This is going to go on late into the night


we're all screwed :( unless in middle upper class.
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 1:04:46 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
IdiotMachine posted...
So did it pass or what?


Not yet. It's pretty clear that it will. Higher ranking Democrats are obstructing at the moment. Schumer called for a delayed vote into Monday, which set the process back about 30+ minutes then failed. Now creepy Tim Kaine said some BS which is currently setting it back some more but is now coming to a close.

Trump wasn't lying--they obstruct and obstruct

Yeah how dare Democrats try and push the vote till Monday so they actually have a chance to read the bill they're voting on.

What bastards /s
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jstewart01
12/02/17 1:20:44 AM
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Did the bill pass?
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kingdrake2
12/02/17 1:34:23 AM
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jstewart01 posted...
Did the bill pass?


not yet, one isn't buying into the deal but he too can be bought out.
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Polycosm
12/02/17 1:34:55 AM
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jstewart01 posted...
Did the bill pass?

Just now moving to the final debate and vote on the main bill. We'll know soon.
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Questionmarktarius
12/02/17 1:36:08 AM
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Any bill that passes at two or three in the morning is automatically suspect.
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Polycosm
12/02/17 1:47:00 AM
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Not sure if I saw correctly but it looks like Collins was a yes. Didn't catch the others in question.
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Polycosm
12/02/17 1:49:30 AM
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Aaaand the bill passes the Senate with 51 affirmative votes.
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Naysaspace
12/02/17 1:53:29 AM
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51/49 is considered a unanimous decision in America

49% of the people voting didn't want it. 75% of US Citizens will suffer for the better part of the next few decades.
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hollow_shrine
12/02/17 1:54:56 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
49% of the people voting didn't want it. 75% of US Citizens will suffer for the better part of the next few decades.

I won't go that far. We'll see what 2018 looks like.
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 1:55:42 AM
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So why did they hastily vote on a bill when no one had enough time to read it?

What a joke.
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