Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 150: Moore votes the better to speak Frank(en)ly

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Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

is your 3 year-old daughter bringing up pocahontas to prominent native american groups during celebratory meetings

So, I am glad you agree the setting was the only issue as I stated from the onset and you can stop arguing stupid stuff now. Thanks.

The part about using it against native americans is still in there Corrik.
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Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.
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Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

is your 3 year-old daughter bringing up pocahontas to prominent native american groups during celebratory meetings

So, I am glad you agree the setting was the only issue as I stated from the onset and you can stop arguing stupid stuff now. Thanks.

So are you saying that when they made statements about the tweets and such in May, they were just being lying crybabies?
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.

It was an inappropriate setting to make the quip which I have said over and over and over again. Beyond the setting, there is nothing wrong with it.
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.

It was an inappropriate setting to make the quip which I have said over and over and over again. Beyond the setting, there is nothing wrong with it.

Except the racism part.
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StealThisSheen posted...

Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

is your 3 year-old daughter bringing up pocahontas to prominent native american groups during celebratory meetings

So, I am glad you agree the setting was the only issue as I stated from the onset and you can stop arguing stupid stuff now. Thanks.

So are you saying that when they made statements about the tweets and such in May, they were just being lying crybabies?

Anyone calling it a racial slur has ulterior motives yes as it is factually not one.
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.

It was an inappropriate setting to make the quip which I have said over and over and over again. Beyond the setting, there is nothing wrong with it.

Except the racism part.

Trying too hard to make everything a race issue. Sorry but despite liberals best hopes not everything is an issue of identifiers.
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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.

It was an inappropriate setting to make the quip which I have said over and over and over again. Beyond the setting, there is nothing wrong with it.

Except the racism part.

Trying to hard to make everything a race issue. Sorry but despite liberals best hopes not everything is an issue of identifiers.

Only the things directly connected to someones race.
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Again, I'd like to point out that you bitched and moaned over statues of white figures, but the minute Native Americans get upset over a Native American figure being disrespected, you say they have ulterior motives
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Corrik should go out and make a video if himself calling people Pocahontas

nothin' wrong with it after all
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Corrik...

You may not see the statement as racist.

But do you not understand why people would assume it had a racist intent, considering the man who said it?

And no, the answer is not "Because liberals".
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit.

So you do understand, to some extent, why what he said was inappropriate then.

It was an inappropriate setting to make the quip which I have said over and over and over again. Beyond the setting, there is nothing wrong with it.

Except the racism part.

Trying to hard to make everything a race issue. Sorry but despite liberals best hopes not everything is an issue of identifiers.

Only the things directly connected to someones race.

StealThisSheen posted...

Again, I'd like to point out that you bitched and moaned over statues of white figures, but the minute Native Americans get upset over a Native American figure being disrespected, you say they have ulterior motives

Where did he disrespect a Native American? Lol what? If anything, you as a liberal who supports Warren's craziness should be touting how he is comparing her to such a beacon of shining light in the female community.

Did I miss where Trump called Pocahontas a whore or claimed she beat men and raped children?
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CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik should go out and make a video if himself calling people Pocahontas

nothin' wrong with it after all

I'm sure his friends and family offended by kneeling nfl players who get a good laugh out of him calling them Pocahontas. I wonder why that is?
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik...

You may not see the statement as racist.

But do you not understand why people would assume it had a racist intent, considering the man who said it?

And no, the answer is not "Because liberals".

I understand why the other political end of the spectrum would want to make it seem like something that clearly is not a racial slur is one. Yes.
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Corrik posted...

Where did he disrespect a Native American?

Pocahontas. He disrespected Pocahontas.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

Where did he disrespect a Native American?

Pocahontas. He disrespected Pocahontas.

Again. How? Where did he say she is a cannibal or has smelly feet or whatever he insulted her by saying?
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

I can't help but wonder if Corrik is being intentionally obtuse, or if he's simply being contrarian.

(I'm one to talk....)

While calling someone Pocahontas may not strictly be counted as a slur... calling a Native American woman that is at best a very odd and careless thing to say. This is the benefit of a doubt you'd give a typical person, who has shown no prejudice behavior in the past.

Someone like Trump saying it? From his past behavior, it strains belief that he called someone that with absolutely no ill intent. Simply put, there was no reason to call her that. She has a name, and if he did not know her name, he could have simply asked.

This is ignoring the fact that a wikipedia list is hardly the be all end all list of racial slurs

He was teasing her fake usage of minority status. Calling her a Native American chieftains daughter because for all hell if she is going to claim she is a minority Native American when she is self-admittedly AT BEST 1/32nd Native American she might as well be a Disney Native American Princess also. Lol.

He is teasing her pushed fake ethnicity claim.

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit. But, it is not a racial slur.

Except he's not calling her Al Jolson or Rachel Dolezal or any number of white people who made choices in the past that look extremely fucked up and insensitive in a modern light. He's specifically using Pocahontas as an insult to her claims of Native American heritage. And in doing so, he is reducing an entire race of people down to a single individual (mostly because Trump himself is a moron and probably couldn't name another Native American if you asked him to.)

It doesn't matter that Elizabeth Warren is white. The context of the insult makes it clear that he's not calling her Pocahontas because she has a playful raccoon buddy, or a hummingbird pal, or because she talks to a tree. It's specifically to draw attention to her race. If I went around referring to any and all native American women I met as "Pocahontas", that's FUCKING RACIST. It's like saying "look at Martin Luther King over there" when referring to some generic black guy. Martin Luther King is not offensive, but in context, the person is clearly using the name to reduce an individual's self-worth based on their race, saying that individual is no different from Martin Luther King is no different from any other black man. And if that sounds weirdly specific, it's because that example came from an actual incident in Big Brother UK 13.
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Corrik posted...

Where did he disrespect a Native American? Lol what? If anything, you as a liberal who supports Warren's craziness should be touting how he is comparing her to such a beacon of shining light in the female community.

Did I miss where Trump called Pocahontas a whore or claimed she beat men and raped children?

I guess you missed the part where he used a widely known native american name to insult Warrens ancestry? Is she too white for you to accept she might have any native american ancestry?
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Inviso posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

I can't help but wonder if Corrik is being intentionally obtuse, or if he's simply being contrarian.

(I'm one to talk....)

While calling someone Pocahontas may not strictly be counted as a slur... calling a Native American woman that is at best a very odd and careless thing to say. This is the benefit of a doubt you'd give a typical person, who has shown no prejudice behavior in the past.

Someone like Trump saying it? From his past behavior, it strains belief that he called someone that with absolutely no ill intent. Simply put, there was no reason to call her that. She has a name, and if he did not know her name, he could have simply asked.

This is ignoring the fact that a wikipedia list is hardly the be all end all list of racial slurs

He was teasing her fake usage of minority status. Calling her a Native American chieftains daughter because for all hell if she is going to claim she is a minority Native American when she is self-admittedly AT BEST 1/32nd Native American she might as well be a Disney Native American Princess also. Lol.

He is teasing her pushed fake ethnicity claim.

The only thing that was inappropriate was the setting. People need to learn there is a place for everything and a time not to do shit. But, it is not a racial slur.

Except he's not calling her Al Jolson or Rachel Dolezal or any number of white people who made choices in the past that look extremely fucked up and insensitive in a modern light. He's specifically using Pocahontas as an insult to her claims of Native American heritage. And in doing so, he is reducing an entire race of people down to a single individual (mostly because Trump himself is a moron and probably couldn't name another Native American if you asked him to.)

It doesn't matter that Elizabeth Warren is white. The context of the insult makes it clear that he's not calling her Pocahontas because she has a playful raccoon buddy, or a hummingbird pal, or because she talks to a tree. It's specifically to draw attention to her race. If I went around referring to any and all native American women I met as "Pocahontas", that's FUCKING RACIST. It's like saying "look at Martin Luther King over there" when referring to some generic black guy. Martin Luther King is not offensive, but in context, the person is clearly using the name to reduce an individual's self-worth based on their race, saying that individual is no different from Martin Luther King is no different from any other black man. And if that sounds weirdly specific, it's because that example came from an actual incident in Big Brother UK 13.

He is not making fun of her ethnicity. He is making fun of her fake claim of being minority of that ethnicity. Clear distinct difference you refuse to acknowledge cuz you know... Democrat.
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Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

Where did he disrespect a Native American?

Pocahontas. He disrespected Pocahontas.

Again. How? Where did he say she is a cannibal or has smelly feet or whatever he insulted her by saying?

Typically, when you use somebody's name as an insult, you aren't complimenting them
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Corrik posted...

He is not making fun of her ethnicity. He is making fun of her fake claim of being minority of that ethnicity. Clear distinct difference you refuse to acknowledge cuz you know... Democrat.

Either way, he's being derogatory towards Native Americans, whether or not Elizabeth Warren's heritage is true. Just admit that you're okay with racism as long as it makes liberals mad. That's all Republicans care about, isn't it?
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Corrik posted...

I understand why the other political end of the spectrum would want to make it seem like something that clearly is not a racial slur is one. Yes.

Let me put it to you another way.

I see the statement as "Potentially racist", to put it kindly. I am neither left nor right, politically speaking.

Why do you think I'd see things that way?
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Pocahontas being your go-to to mean "Native American woman" minimizes her, not to mention being reduced as an insult.

Corrik, you need fucking listen to the people being offended.
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This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

PS: North Korea's ICBM they launched into Japan's waters they claim can hit anywhere in the United States. War drums are pounding again.
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Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

PS: North Korea's ICBM they launched into Japan's waters they claim can hit anywhere in the United States. War drums are pounding again.

We're arguing about this in here because the REAL politics topic that you've deliberately ignored twice now isn't dealing with trolling arguments like what black and white mean, or whether insulting Native Americans is racist or not.
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Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

We're here because of you you stupid fuck. Remove Corrik from the conversation and there's no more Pocahontas debate because everyone else is on the same page. See: The real poli topic lacking in Pocahontas discussion.
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Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

PS: North Korea's ICBM they launched into Japan's waters they claim can hit anywhere in the United States. War drums are pounding again.

We're discussing that kind of stuff in the real politics topic.

This is the Corrik Containment Topic for dumb shit like this

If we humor you here, you keep your stupidity out of the real topic
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CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

We're here because of you you stupid fuck. Remove Corrik from the conversation and there's no more Pocahontas debate because everyone else is on the same page. See: The real poli topic lacking in Pocahontas discussion.

Also the topic shows up twice on CNN's frontpage.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

I understand why the other political end of the spectrum would want to make it seem like something that clearly is not a racial slur is one. Yes.

Let me put it to you another way.

I see the statement as "Potentially racist", to put it kindly. I am neither left nor right, politically speaking.

Why do you think I'd see things that way?

I would say you just need a little more education on what exactly constitutes racism. You sound like you are on your way because you did not jump to just a racist conclusion and actually took time to analyze it. It is factually not a racist slur.

If you make a bad joke and I say "okay Wayne Brady". Did I just say a racial slur to offend you?

You should be careful trying to align with people who live on calling people racists and think only white people can be racist. Their rhetoric is illogical and super dangerous.
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

I understand why the other political end of the spectrum would want to make it seem like something that clearly is not a racial slur is one. Yes.

Let me put it to you another way.

I see the statement as "Potentially racist", to put it kindly. I am neither left nor right, politically speaking.

Why do you think I'd see things that way?

I would say you just need a little more education on what exactly constitutes racism. You sound like you are on your way because you did not jump to just a racist conclusion and actually took time to analyze it. It is factually not a racist slur.

If you make a bad joke and I say "okay Wayne Brady". Did I just say a racial slur to offend you?

You should be careful trying to align with people who live on calling people racists and think only white people can be racist. Their rhetoric is illogical and super dangerous.

Serious question:

If you call a Chinese guy you meet "Jackie Chan" simply because he's Asian, do you consider that racist?
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Corrik posted...

If you make a bad joke and I say "okay Wayne Brady". Did I just say a racial slur to offend you?

See this "if" condition? That's context, defining the use of "Wayne Brady" in linguistic domain of comedy, rather than calling someone Wayne Brady for being Black.
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And again, I never jumped to calling it racist from the get-go. I've mainly been trying to say the Navajo people and other Native American groups themselves have already explained why it's racist to them, and people like you are literally trying to say "No. I, as a white loser on the internet, get to decide what's racist and what isn't for them."
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Corrik posted...

It also cracks me up that again the push against her was initiated by a Democrat she ran against, just as the birther shit was initiated by Democrat Hillary Clinton. Can't make this stuff up.

Since when is Scott Brown a Democrat?

You literally did make this stuff up.
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Please Corrik, explain to me how Trump is using Pocahontas for ANY other reason beyond her being a Native American? 'Cause your Wayne Brady example doesn't quite work if the person is calling you Wayne Brady because they think you're telling unfunny jokes.

Seriously, if Trump wanted to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren for fudging her heritage, he could EASILY call her Lyin' Lizzy. It's got better alliteration, it rolls off the tongue, and more specifically, it addresses the fucking thing you're claiming his attack is based on. Hell, it works better than Lyin' Ted, who got down on his knees and started kissing Trump's ass after the convention.
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lordloki12 posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

We're here because of you you stupid fuck. Remove Corrik from the conversation and there's no more Pocahontas debate because everyone else is on the same page. See: The real poli topic lacking in Pocahontas discussion.

Also the topic shows up twice on CNN's frontpage.

Just triple checked. Not a single headline. North Korea is first. 5 headlines dedicated to that.

Tampa killer is 2nd with 4 headlines.

Tax reform is 3rd and empty chair photo op with 6 headlines.

Protester dragged out of Senate meeting
Bannon campaigns with Moore
Black leaders trying to get Conyers to resign
Air Force on firearm database
Taliban living good in pakistan
Secretary of State hits back
Congressmen not rerunning for election

CFPB is last
Three headlines

That is the front page. CNN has literally nothing on Warren on the front page. FoxNews has an article highlighting lefts hypocrisy and Warren's faking her minority status.

That is it from the 2 major news sites. Even CNN realized it was dumb and dropped it and FoxNews is still criticizing it because of how dumb it was.
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Like, when you literally are saying that you, personally, get to decide if something is offensive for somebody else, you've already lost the argument.

You can't just say "They don't actually find it offensive, those Native Americans just have ulterior motives." That makes you a moron.
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Inviso posted...

Please Corrik, explain to me how Trump is using Pocahontas for ANY other reason beyond her being a Native American? 'Cause your Wayne Brady example doesn't quite work if the person is calling you Wayne Brady because they think you're telling unfunny jokes.

Seriously, if Trump wanted to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren for fudging her heritage, he could EASILY call her Lyin' Lizzy. It's got better alliteration, it rolls off the tongue, and more specifically, it addresses the fucking thing you're claiming his attack is based on. Hell, it works better than Lyin' Ted, who got down on his knees and started kissing Trump's ass after the convention.

He is making fun of her falsely claiming she was a Native American minority. Not that she was a Native American. Again. As stated 400 times. A clear difference.
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"Stupid liberals always talking about Pocahontas!"

*Pocahontas discussion only exists because of Corrik*

*CNN dropped it but Fox News is still on it*

dot dot dot fucking dot
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Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Please Corrik, explain to me how Trump is using Pocahontas for ANY other reason beyond her being a Native American? 'Cause your Wayne Brady example doesn't quite work if the person is calling you Wayne Brady because they think you're telling unfunny jokes.

Seriously, if Trump wanted to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren for fudging her heritage, he could EASILY call her Lyin' Lizzy. It's got better alliteration, it rolls off the tongue, and more specifically, it addresses the fucking thing you're claiming his attack is based on. Hell, it works better than Lyin' Ted, who got down on his knees and started kissing Trump's ass after the convention.

He is making fun of her falsely claiming she was a Native American minority. Not that she was a Native American. Again. As stated 400 times. A clear difference.

Then why did he feel the need to attack her on the "Native American" part and not the "falsely claiming" part?
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StealThisSheen posted...

Like, when you literally are saying that you, personally, get to decide if something is offensive for somebody else, you've already lost the argument.

You can't just say "They don't actually find it offensive, those Native Americans just have ulterior motives." That makes you a moron.

I didn't again say that someone could not find it offensive. I said that saying it is a racial slur is factually incorrect and saying it is one is due to ulterior motives or incompetency.
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Corrik posted...

He is making fun of her falsely claiming she was a Native American minority.

Do you have actual proof that the claims are false to say this in the first place?
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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

We're here because of you you stupid fuck. Remove Corrik from the conversation and there's no more Pocahontas debate because everyone else is on the same page. See: The real poli topic lacking in Pocahontas discussion.

Also the topic shows up twice on CNN's frontpage.

Just triple checked. Not a single headline. North Korea is first. 5 headlines dedicated to that.

Tampa killer is 2nd with 4 headlines.

Tax reform is 3rd and empty chair photo op with 6 headlines.

Protester dragged out of Senate meeting
Bannon campaigns with Moore
Black leaders trying to get Conyers to resign
Air Force on firearm database
Taliban living good in pakistan
Secretary of State hits back
Congressmen not rerunning for election

CFPB is last
Three headlines

That is the front page. CNN has literally nothing on Warren on the front page. FoxNews has an article highlighting lefts hypocrisy and Warren's faking her minority status.

That is it from the 2 major news sites. Even CNN realized it was dumb and dropped it and FoxNews is still criticizing it because of how dumb it was.

Links from the front page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/us/navajo-code-talkers-trump-who/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/11/28/elizabeth-warren-trump-response-sot-ac360.cnn

The Warren response video is literally a picture of her face Corrik. You didnt even have to read a headline.
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Inviso posted...

Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Please Corrik, explain to me how Trump is using Pocahontas for ANY other reason beyond her being a Native American? 'Cause your Wayne Brady example doesn't quite work if the person is calling you Wayne Brady because they think you're telling unfunny jokes.

Seriously, if Trump wanted to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren for fudging her heritage, he could EASILY call her Lyin' Lizzy. It's got better alliteration, it rolls off the tongue, and more specifically, it addresses the fucking thing you're claiming his attack is based on. Hell, it works better than Lyin' Ted, who got down on his knees and started kissing Trump's ass after the convention.

He is making fun of her falsely claiming she was a Native American minority. Not that she was a Native American. Again. As stated 400 times. A clear difference.

Then why did he feel the need to attack her on the "Native American" part and not the "falsely claiming" part?

Are you serious right now? Do you not even know the fucking topic being discussed?
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

This Warren quip is literally not even a story on CNNs front page at all because it is such a nonstory even from the liberal perspective but here we are... Listening to liberals here trying their hardest to make it some racism issue because that is all they know how to argue.

We're here because of you you stupid fuck. Remove Corrik from the conversation and there's no more Pocahontas debate because everyone else is on the same page. See: The real poli topic lacking in Pocahontas discussion.

Also the topic shows up twice on CNN's frontpage.

Just triple checked. Not a single headline. North Korea is first. 5 headlines dedicated to that.

Tampa killer is 2nd with 4 headlines.

Tax reform is 3rd and empty chair photo op with 6 headlines.

Protester dragged out of Senate meeting
Bannon campaigns with Moore
Black leaders trying to get Conyers to resign
Air Force on firearm database
Taliban living good in pakistan
Secretary of State hits back
Congressmen not rerunning for election

CFPB is last
Three headlines

That is the front page. CNN has literally nothing on Warren on the front page. FoxNews has an article highlighting lefts hypocrisy and Warren's faking her minority status.

That is it from the 2 major news sites. Even CNN realized it was dumb and dropped it and FoxNews is still criticizing it because of how dumb it was.

Links from the front page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/us/navajo-code-talkers-trump-who/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/11/28/elizabeth-warren-trump-response-sot-ac360.cnn

The Warren response video is literally a picture of her face Corrik. You didnt even have to read a headline.

Do you need literal screenshots? That is NOT on their front page right now. (At least on mobile)
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Corrik posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Like, when you literally are saying that you, personally, get to decide if something is offensive for somebody else, you've already lost the argument.

You can't just say "They don't actually find it offensive, those Native Americans just have ulterior motives." That makes you a moron.

I didn't again say that someone could not find it offensive. I said that saying it is a racial slur is factually incorrect and saying it is one is due to ulterior motives or incompetency.

Prove it's not a racial slur. Because right now, the FACTS show that the actual people to whom it would be a slur are saying "yes, it's a slur".
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Tony already has one for you
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Corrik I just gave you a literal screenshot of the front page having multiple headlines about it?
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Corrik posted...

Do you need literal screenshots? That is NOT on their front page right now. (At least on mobile)

corrik you need to stop

just stop
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I wonder if "Corrik makes shit up again" will soon be a headline on CNN's front page
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