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yoshirulezz1
11/27/17 2:01:47 PM
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What do you think about them?
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Scotty_Rogers
11/27/17 2:02:52 PM
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Is it a female professor
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Smashingpmkns
11/27/17 2:03:53 PM
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You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully
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yoshirulezz1
11/27/17 2:04:24 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Is it a female professor

Yes but she looks like she hasn't washed her hair in years
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shiby with it
11/27/17 2:10:17 PM
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Definitely okay with it.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/27/17 2:22:15 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

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LightHawKnight
11/27/17 2:25:10 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

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scar the 1
11/27/17 2:26:42 PM
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It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.
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Naysaspace
11/27/17 2:27:42 PM
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what did you expect? to go there and cruise the web and not learn?

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Dustin1280
11/27/17 2:28:12 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

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hollow_shrine
11/27/17 2:28:55 PM
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shiby with it posted...
Definitely okay with it.

Yup. Let's get that maximum education value. I'm a student, what else should I doing with my time if it's not class?
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Thekiller37
11/27/17 2:29:19 PM
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When you have access to the lecture online and they spend half an hour repeating the same shit on one slide, I get that.

If it's actually new content and they're clear and concise with each section of it, it's just fine.
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Heineken14
11/27/17 2:31:08 PM
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Really depended on the class and how well I understood the material.
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DoctorVader
11/27/17 2:32:27 PM
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As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.
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Questionmarktarius
11/27/17 2:36:36 PM
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College should really be arranged more like a professional cert, with a few exceptions (mostly labs).
Here's the learning materials, and here's the available exam dates. Have at it.
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Heineken14
11/27/17 2:47:10 PM
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DoctorVader posted...
As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.


Oh gods, those were the fucking worst.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/27/17 2:48:37 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
DoctorVader posted...
As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.


Oh gods, those were the fucking worst.

Yeah. More than once I've barely attended a class if at all and still gotten an A or B in the course. >.>
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nexigrams
11/27/17 2:49:42 PM
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Professors that take up 7 minutes AFTER class has ended. Those are the worst. Literally no one is listening to you, they just want to leave. Stop wasting everyone's time.
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COVxy
11/27/17 3:08:19 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.


A large proportion of undergrads don't really have the meta-cognition to be able to know that they need to attend lectures. For the most part, mandatory (or highly incentivized) attendance tends to be a good thing for students.
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addled
11/27/17 3:30:30 PM
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So a person hired to teach a class for X amount of time is teaching a class for X amount of time.

Weird.
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scar the 1
11/28/17 3:12:16 AM
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COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.


A large proportion of undergrads don't really have the meta-cognition to be able to know that they need to attend lectures. For the most part, mandatory (or highly incentivized) attendance tends to be a good thing for students.

I'd say that depends on what skills you want them to learn.
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Volkswagen_Bros
11/29/17 12:45:44 AM
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Most Professors end their lecture about 5 or 10 minutes early so students can get to their other classes on time.

Thats the part some of you arent getting.
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prince_leo
11/29/17 12:50:43 AM
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I had a professor who regularly went over his allotted time by 10 - 15 minutes
admittedly we only met once a week, so I get that he wanted to take advantage of our time

now, I was fine with it because he was my last class of the day, but some people had class / work afterwards and got real mad
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Lorthremar
11/29/17 12:57:50 AM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
Heineken14 posted...
DoctorVader posted...
As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.


Oh gods, those were the fucking worst.

Yeah. More than once I've barely attended a class if at all and still gotten an A or B in the course. >.>

4 of my 5 classes currently have attendance policies, it's fucking terrible
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averagejoel
11/29/17 1:02:43 AM
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COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.


A large proportion of undergrads don't really have the meta-cognition to be able to know that they need to attend lectures. For the most part, mandatory (or highly incentivized) attendance tends to be a good thing for students.

obviously it's generally important to attend class, but if the lectures are important enough that missing one will affect the grade, that should already be reflected in the student's grade. there's no need to give an extra penalty to people who have extenuating circumstances.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/29/17 1:10:08 AM
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Lorthremar posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Heineken14 posted...
DoctorVader posted...
As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.


Oh gods, those were the fucking worst.

Yeah. More than once I've barely attended a class if at all and still gotten an A or B in the course. >.>

4 of my 5 classes currently have attendance policies, it's fucking terrible

Usually in my case it's only like 5-10% of the grade and it's easy material that I ace so I'm like "fuck the attendance policy, I can't drag myself out of bed and would likely just play on my phone the entire time anyhow."

EDIT - Anecdotally, mandatory attendance seems to drop off after 100/200-level courses. I'm taking two 300s, one 400, and one mixed 400+500 this semester that lack them. (Though if you miss tests/quizzes you're fucked, and the lattermost has them every other class.) Only my history 104 course has it.
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COVxy
11/29/17 7:21:26 AM
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averagejoel posted...
COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.


A large proportion of undergrads don't really have the meta-cognition to be able to know that they need to attend lectures. For the most part, mandatory (or highly incentivized) attendance tends to be a good thing for students.

obviously it's generally important to attend class, but if the lectures are important enough that missing one will affect the grade, that should already be reflected in the student's grade. there's no need to give an extra penalty to people who have extenuating circumstances.


Of course it would, that's the entire point. To prevent students from making poor choices because it has no immediate consequences. Typically, attendance incentives have such a minimal impact on the final grade such that it doesn't really matter anyway, but the point is just to make immediate consequences so students make the proper choice.

The point of a college class is to educate the students the best you can, and if you have a policy that prevents 10% of your class from learning a whole lot less, then that's a good policy.
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scar the 1
11/29/17 8:09:04 AM
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COVxy posted...
averagejoel posted...
COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.


A large proportion of undergrads don't really have the meta-cognition to be able to know that they need to attend lectures. For the most part, mandatory (or highly incentivized) attendance tends to be a good thing for students.

obviously it's generally important to attend class, but if the lectures are important enough that missing one will affect the grade, that should already be reflected in the student's grade. there's no need to give an extra penalty to people who have extenuating circumstances.


Of course it would, that's the entire point. To prevent students from making poor choices because it has no immediate consequences. Typically, attendance incentives have such a minimal impact on the final grade such that it doesn't really matter anyway, but the point is just to make immediate consequences so students make the proper choice.

The point of a college class is to educate the students the best you can, and if you have a policy that prevents 10% of your class from learning a whole lot less, then that's a good policy.

Again, depends on what you're teaching. Different teaching traditions view this differently. The point of higher education in many European countries is about educating students such that they become independent, and in that regard I'm not sure mandatory attendance is beneficial. But it's a fundamental difference between anglo-saxon and German traditions (illustrated by the difference between knowledge and bildung).
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Darkman124
11/29/17 8:34:34 AM
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in my experience lecture attendance wasn't part of the grade except in one case of a very old-fashioned prof

but if i didnt show up i'd fail the exams super hard and i knew it
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SavenForever
11/29/17 9:21:41 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
As long as theyre not forcing you with bullshit mandatory attendance policies, its whatever really.


This and if they aren't filling it out with obvious filler.
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Doe
12/01/17 12:15:50 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.

The hell is the point of going to college if you don't?
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Volkswagen_Bros
12/01/17 12:59:22 AM
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Doe posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.

The hell is the point of going to college if you don't?

Imagine paying a lot of money for a class, and then not show up for it.

That's money well spent, isn't it.
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DezCaughtIt
12/01/17 1:04:07 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

You're completely right.

However

If you don't have enough material to cover in that span of time, don't waste everyone's time by padding it out with filler nonsense that serves no purpose other than to fill time and everyone knows it. That's the biggest problem with the program I'm in. We have a big three hour block and I'd say over half the time there's maybe 100 minutes of material across 180 minutes, yet it still gets dragged out.
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Tryhaptaward
12/01/17 1:27:42 AM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

You're completely right.

However

If you don't have enough material to cover in that span of time, don't waste everyone's time by padding it out with filler nonsense that serves no purpose other than to fill time and everyone knows it. That's the biggest problem with the program I'm in. We have a big three hour block and I'd say over half the time there's maybe 100 minutes of material across 180 minutes, yet it still gets dragged out.


here's a thought

maybe not everyone learns as fast as you
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DezCaughtIt
12/01/17 1:30:30 AM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
You're paying for that time so I think as long as they're teaching you shit then that is completely warranted. Don't sign up for a class you can't attend fully

You're completely right.

However

If you don't have enough material to cover in that span of time, don't waste everyone's time by padding it out with filler nonsense that serves no purpose other than to fill time and everyone knows it. That's the biggest problem with the program I'm in. We have a big three hour block and I'd say over half the time there's maybe 100 minutes of material across 180 minutes, yet it still gets dragged out.


here's a thought

maybe not everyone learns as fast as you


It's a graduate program. There's better usage of time than drilling the same point home ten times in a row. It's worth noting the class typically disengages with the content about halfway through. It's poorly executed and something the administration has admitted they have to work on.

I would be more than happy to spend the whole time in there if there was actually that much content, but there just isn't most of the time.
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scar the 1
12/01/17 2:36:52 AM
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Doe posted...
scar the 1 posted...
It still amazes me that American college classes require you to attend the lectures.

The hell is the point of going to college if you don't?

What's that got to do with anything? If I've learned the subject matter, why should my grade depend on whether I missed a class or not?
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