Board 8 > Freedom, Liberty, Ron Paul - Thanksgiving (brought to you by Trump) [dwmf]

(+) Yeah! (+)

This is why democracy is the ultimate freedom and should be protected at all costs (unless those 10000 voters went the other way, then it would be the worst and horrible)
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SmartMuffin posted...

It's just a giant middle finger to the mainstream media, who once again is going to learn that you can't simply vilify someone into losing an election if people support their ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
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foolm0r0n posted...

This is why democracy is the ultimate freedom and should be protected at all costs (unless those 10000 voters went the other way, then it would be the worst and horrible)

https://twitter.com/BobMurphyEcon/status/940795299047596032
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That's some top tier deflection/backpedaling.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/12/fbi-agents-trump-mueller-texts-294156

Man, how hard is it going to be for them to find deep state operatives who have never said anything bad about Trump? Virtually impossible.
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http://reason.com/volokh/2017/12/13/weve-moved-to-reason

Holy shit, this is big (and awesome) news!
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/12/5/16737714/los-angeles-chargers-stubhub-center-soccer-stadium-experience

On the day I attended and sat in the stands, 25,000 fans showed upand a solid chunk of them, say 40 percent, was there to watch the Cleveland Browns. There were splashes of empty seats throughout the stadium. If the Chargers cannot fill a 27,000-seat stadium to the brim, how the hell will they fill the 70,000-seater they have coming in 2020? The Chargers fans who were there were louder than youd think, and this is not meant to besmirch them. StubHub is actually a remarkable place to see an NFL game, in the same way itd be cool to see the Clippers play at your local YMCA. But cool isnt anywhere near enough to salvage this entire experiment.
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http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/14/cops-catfish-obese-gay-college-student
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http://reason.com/volokh/2017/12/13/pharmacann-challenges-racial-quotas-for

first it was harvard admissions, now it's a license to grow weed...
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/brexit-summit-opens-day-after-legislative-setback-for-theresa-may-1513272761

Official predix: Brexit is never going to happen. The political class simply refuses to allow it.
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It was voted for though!!
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SmartMuffin posted...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/brexit-summit-opens-day-after-legislative-setback-for-theresa-may-1513272761

Official predix: Brexit is never going to happen. The political class simply refuses to allow it.

But the majority political party was pushing it!
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lol muffin's getting rekt in his argument topic
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Just got my first pretty huge bonus.

By which I mean I got 60% of one and the government stole the rest.
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What did you do to earn the bonus?
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Stay employed for another year and not receive a negative performance evaluation.
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So it wasn't based on an objective measure of your productivity or value to the company. It was juat handed out to everyone who choose to stick around and was capable of putting fog on a mirror (relatively speaking). Smells socialist to me!
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It's an incentive not to leave and go somewhere else.

And had I gotten an above-average rating, I would have gotten more.
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https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/13/security-robots-are-being-used-to-ward-off-san-franciscos-homeless-population/

The future is now. For only $6 an hour I might donate one of these to my neighborhood so people will stop asking me for money on my two block walk to Chipotle!
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SmartMuffin posted...

had I gotten an above-average rating

rekt
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https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/941710865467871232

Looks like she's available, Muffin. Maybe you should try contacting her.
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apparently lauren southern is single too!
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foolm0r0n posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

had I gotten an above-average rating

rekt

Eh, getting a high rating basically requires working 10-20% longer hours in exchange for like, 5k additional bonus. Not even close to worth it. I'm fine being "average" at one of the three top firms in the world.
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redrocket_pub posted...

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/941710865467871232

Looks like she's available, Muffin. Maybe you should try contacting her.

I feel like this is supposed to be a joke but I don't see it.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-finland-eurosceptics/presidential-hopeful-wants-finland-out-of-eu-says-nationalists-will-bounce-back-idUSKBN1E722V

Do want. In every possible way.
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I didn't know ann coulter was incel
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http://reason.com/archives/2017/12/15/why-cards-against-humanity-wont-stop-the

I like the idea that Trump Derangement Syndrome has inadvertently roped Cards Against Humanity into leading the libertarian charge against eminent domain...
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Buying some land apparently makes a super socialist company libertarian, and defending bodily rights makes a libertarian socialist. Talk about derangement...
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Buying some land apparently makes a super socialist company libertarian

No, arguing that your right to own land supersedes the government's right to re purpose land for the greater good makes you a libertarian. It's true that they haven't done that yet, although they pretty clearly intend to...
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They just want it to be expensive and annoying for the government. They don't care about the morality of eminent domain either way.

i.e. they specifically only oppose the wall, not all eminent domain
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left lib smuff at it again
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I dont come here often anymore since I made my own political topic series (with blackjack, and hookers), BUT I saw this quote in the closed Health care topic and had to ask

SmartMuffin said..

My right to my own body is paramount, therefore nobody else can have any sort of "right" that overrides this.

How do you, Muffin, personally view this right with regard to abortion?
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Also Im not sure you can apply Trump Derangement Syndrome to opposing the Wall.

Its pretty well documented that he actually wants to build this Wall.
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How do you, Muffin, personally view this right with regard to abortion?

Similar to the "throwing people out of helicopters" question.

When you engage in sexual intercourse you are accepting the possibility of conceiving a child, at which point you are obligated to give birth to it, similar to how once you invite someone onto your helicopter, you can't just change your mind and push them out midway through the trip.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also Im not sure you can apply Trump Derangement Syndrome to opposing the Wall.

Its pretty well documented that he actually wants to build this Wall.

The derangement part is suddenly believing private property is the rightful means to oppose collectivist government action.

They wouldn't do that to anyone other than Trump. They wouldn't be doing this if Ted Cruz was building a wall.
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SmartMuffin posted...

When you engage in sexual intercourse you are accepting the possibility of conceiving a child, at which point you are obligated to give birth to it, similar to how once you invite someone onto your helicopter, you can't just change your mind and push them out midway through the trip.

this must be the dumbest thing anyone has said about abortion ever (and that's saying something).
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SmartMuffin posted...

at which point you are obligated to give birth to it

Why? Why are you obligated?
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Why? Why are you obligated?

Because to do otherwise is to kill an innocent person. The same reason you're obligated to not throw someone out of your helicopter, even though you still own the helicopter.
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SmartMuffin posted...

Because to do otherwise is to kill an innocent person.

It's not a person. It's on it's way to becoming one and it reaches a point of viability where it could be delivered and survive, but it's not a person until at least that point.
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a baby can't survive on its own.
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When you engage in sexual intercourse you are accepting the possibility of conceiving a child, at which point you are obligated to give birth to it

Suppose someone invites you onto their helicopter, and then takes the opportunity to rape you, causing you to become pregnant. Do you have the right to abort this non-consensual proto-human?
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SmartMuffin posted...

How do you, Muffin, personally view this right with regard to abortion?

Similar to the "throwing people out of helicopters" question.

When you engage in sexual intercourse you are accepting the possibility of conceiving a child, at which point you are obligated to give birth to it, similar to how once you invite someone onto your helicopter, you can't just change your mind and push them out midway through the trip.

So then do you accept abortion in the case of rape? Also immaculate conception I suppose <_<

Not trying to gotcha, just curious.
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HotDogButts posted...

a baby can't survive on its own.

Once the baby is born, do you have the right to abandon it?

Under Muffins definition of Right to Life, it would seem so
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Jakyl25 posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

How do you, Muffin, personally view this right with regard to abortion?

Similar to the "throwing people out of helicopters" question.

When you engage in sexual intercourse you are accepting the possibility of conceiving a child, at which point you are obligated to give birth to it, similar to how once you invite someone onto your helicopter, you can't just change your mind and push them out midway through the trip.

So then do you accept abortion in the case of rape? Also immaculate conception I suppose <_<

Not trying to gotcha, just curious.

Not to put words in his mouth but he always said it was hypocritical that Republicans always added this to anti-choice legislation.
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So then do you accept abortion in the case of rape?

No, no exceptions. All the "abortion is murder" people who are like "oh well if the process might be slightly traumatic to the mother then murder is okay" people are giant hypocrites.
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Jakyl25 posted...

HotDogButts posted...

a baby can't survive on its own.

Once the baby is born, do you have the right to abandon it?

Under Muffins definition of Right to Life, it would seem so

Abandon on a streetcorner? No. Give up for adoption? Yes.
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Is a miscarriage murder?
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SmartMuffin posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

HotDogButts posted...

a baby can't survive on its own.

Once the baby is born, do you have the right to abandon it?

Under Muffins definition of Right to Life, it would seem so

Abandon on a streetcorner? No. Give up for adoption? Yes.

What's the difference? You're not violating their rights.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Is a miscarriage murder?

Not unless you deliberately bring it about.

That's like asking "is a car accident murder?" Well no, not if it's an accident. But if you intentionally run someone down on the street, yeah.
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What's the difference? You're not violating their rights.

It's the same as the helicopter principle again. You voluntarily took on the obligation to care for this life. You have a responsibility to see that it is properly cared for.
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