Current Events > Belgium has concluded its investigation on Loot Boxes and gambling

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Blue_Inigo 11/21/17 7:31:59 PM #101:	I would start buying european versions of games --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:890831024] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>I would start buying european versions of games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 11/21/17 7:32:17 PM #102:	Darmik posted... Have there been any stories of kids spending hundreds of dollars on lootboxes? I've heard it several times for free to play mobile games. But I've never heard this happening for a major retail release. I remember one news about this kid spending like $1000 or so in fifa shit? --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:890831048] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Have there been any stories of kids spending hundreds of dollars on lootboxes? I've heard it several times for free to play mobile games. But I've never heard this happening for a major retail release.</quote> I remember one news about this kid spending like $1000 or so in fifa shit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/21/17 7:33:22 PM #103:	armandro posted... darkphoenix181 posted... armandro posted... exactly they have no redeeming quality you can just ignore them if they have no redeeming quality why do you protest so much to their removal? that seems quite illogical just because YOU think something has no purpose or redeeming quality doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. You need to think about everyone. you literally just agreed with me and said: exactly they have no redeeming quality like wtf are you doing now? and if you argue that they do have a good quality a r t i c u l a t e it I am waiting --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890831111] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>exactly they have no redeeming quality you can just ignore them</quote> if they have no redeeming quality why do you protest so much to their removal? that seems quite illogical</quote> just because YOU think something has no purpose or redeeming quality doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. You need to think about everyone.</quote> you literally just agreed with me and said: <quote> exactly they have no redeeming quality</quote> like wtf are you doing now? and if you argue that they do have a good quality a r t i c u l a t e it I am waiting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:37:52 PM #104:	Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890831393] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 11/21/17 7:39:13 PM #105:	darkjedilink posted... weekoldhotdog posted... Yes, take this to the US supreme courts and make the loot crate an actual precedentt (meaning all decisions are final) in the ending of lootcrates in full priced video games. Won't happen in the US, since we actually respect people's fundamental rights, unlike the rest of the world. Actually it could. The new SWBF game is marketed towards kids and has a gambling element. This can lead to underage gambling, which is a valid enough reason to ban loot boxes. Though they might try to restrict it to M rated games only. Although M rated games are made for people 17 and up and some states don't allow gambling until 21. So they could still make a argument that it promotes underage gambling. <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:890831465] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weekoldhotdog posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, take this to the US supreme courts and make the loot crate an actual precedentt (meaning all decisions are final) in the ending of lootcrates in full priced video games.</quote> Won't happen in the US, since we actually respect people's fundamental rights, unlike the rest of the world.</quote> Actually it could. The new SWBF game is marketed towards kids and has a gambling element. This can lead to underage gambling, which is a valid enough reason to ban loot boxes. Though they might try to restrict it to M rated games only. Although M rated games are made for people 17 and up and some states don't allow gambling until 21. So they could still make a argument that it promotes underage gambling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 11/21/17 7:40:00 PM #107:	If you have been gaming since the golden age, you would know that progression is taking longer and longer in games these days, specifically games with lootboxes or microtransactions of any sort. One of the main reasons game progression is padded now is to encourage people to spend money on lootboxes to get a quick fix. Microtransaction games no longer have "reasonable progression times" because their sole purpose is to open your wallet, NOT to give you a good gaming experience. Anyone who thinks microtransactions (at least P2W variants) are a good thing have some serious critical thinking issues. Personally I don't have a problem with aesthetic lootboxes. However, if I have to lose those in order to get rid of P2W loot boxes, it's a worthwhile cost. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:890831510] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>If you have been gaming since the golden age, you would know that progression is taking longer and longer in games these days, specifically games with lootboxes or microtransactions of any sort. One of the main reasons game progression is padded now is to encourage people to spend money on lootboxes to get a quick fix. Microtransaction games no longer have "reasonable progression times" because their sole purpose is to open your wallet, NOT to give you a good gaming experience. Anyone who thinks microtransactions (at least P2W variants) are a good thing have some serious critical thinking issues. Personally I don't have a problem with aesthetic lootboxes. However, if I have to lose those in order to get rid of P2W loot boxes, it's a worthwhile cost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/21/17 7:40:55 PM #108:	armandro posted... Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem why do you think lootboxes are the make or break of this idea? I already asked this very question earlier and you gave no answer also multiple skins used to come with the full price of the game maybe you too young to know that --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890831553] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem</quote> why do you think lootboxes are the make or break of this idea? I already asked this very question earlier and you gave no answer also multiple skins used to come with the full price of the game maybe you too young to know that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:43:04 PM #109:	they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890831668] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/21/17 7:43:33 PM #110:	Good --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:890831700] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 11/21/17 7:43:48 PM #111:	darkphoenix181 posted... armandro posted... Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem why do you think lootboxes are the make or break of this idea? I already asked this very question earlier and you gave no answer also multiple skins used to come with the full price of the game maybe you too young to know that Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:890831713] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Just because I agree with you that they have no redeeming quality. Doesn't mean I'm on your side. People enjoy different things. Skins shouldn't even exist in the first place, but i rather have this system which is random and free. instead of paying for a specific skin with real money. Overwatch DLC is FREE how do you want them to make their money? OPTIONAL SKINS not forced to pay whats the problem</quote> why do you think lootboxes are the make or break of this idea? I already asked this very question earlier and you gave no answer also multiple skins used to come with the full price of the game maybe you too young to know that</quote> Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 11/21/17 7:44:28 PM #112:	armandro posted... they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification. --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:890831751] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose</quote> The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/21/17 7:45:14 PM #113:	darkphoenix181 posted... Cheater87 posted... Wow, what will happen if they are banned in Europe but not the US? it is still a win keeping up two different code builds is quite burdensome and I doubt the profits surpass the extra man hours significantly enough to entice companies to make games have lootboxes in USA and not in EU Well they could pull a Blizzard and use a loophole (you can't buy lootboxes with money but you can buy in-game currency which you can then use for lootboxes because that's completely different!). It's also possible they could just not release them in territories that ban it but that seems extreme. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890831787] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cheater87 posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, what will happen if they are banned in Europe but not the US?</quote> it is still a win keeping up two different code builds is quite burdensome and I doubt the profits surpass the extra man hours significantly enough to entice companies to make games have lootboxes in USA and not in EU</quote> Well they could pull a Blizzard and use a loophole (you can't buy lootboxes with money but you can buy in-game currency which you can then use for lootboxes because that's completely different!). It's also possible they could just not release them in territories that ban it but that seems extreme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/21/17 7:46:32 PM #114:	Cookie Bag posted... The people chose and they said they don't want bulls* lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification. I dunno. A lot of people have said they're fine with cosmetic lootboxes but there's no reason they'd be treated any differently. I made a topic a few days ago for which multiplayer model would be the best and there wasn't really a unanimous answer. Most popular answers were Overwatch and Halo 5 as good examples. Both of which have lootboxes. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890831862] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>The people chose and they said they don't want bulls* lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification.</quote> I dunno. A lot of people have said they're fine with cosmetic lootboxes but there's no reason they'd be treated any differently. I made a topic a few days ago for which multiplayer model would be the best and there wasn't really a unanimous answer. Most popular answers were Overwatch and Halo 5 as good examples. Both of which have lootboxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/21/17 7:46:46 PM #115:	armandro posted... they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff and you could buy those in other models as dlc so basically your argument is you are ok with other people paying tons of money for chase skins to subsidize you because you spend tons of time playing to get the things free? lol you are freeloader armandro posted... let the people choose this isn't a democracy one rich dude is worth the votes of thousands of people nobody chose this but the 1% --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890831872] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff</quote> and you could buy those in other models as dlc so basically your argument is you are ok with other people paying tons of money for chase skins to subsidize you because you spend tons of time playing to get the things free? lol you are freeloader <cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>let the people choose</quote> this isn't a democracy one rich dude is worth the votes of thousands of people nobody chose this but the 1%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:47:31 PM #116:	Cookie Bag posted... armandro posted... they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification. I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890831927] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose</quote> The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification.</quote> I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/21/17 7:47:52 PM #117:	soulunison2 posted... Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments big words from a dude who doesn't offer his own up nor point out said weakness --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890831944] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments</quote> big words from a dude who doesn't offer his own up nor point out said weakness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:48:39 PM #118:	I play the game the skins are just an extra did you forget they were optional? --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890831997] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>I play the game the skins are just an extra did you forget they were optional?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 11/21/17 7:48:51 PM #119:	armandro posted... Cookie Bag posted... armandro posted... they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification. I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things This coming from the dude with no job --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:890832008] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose</quote> The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification.</quote> I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things</quote> This coming from the dude with no job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 11/21/17 7:49:55 PM #120:	armandro posted... I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things I know you're a troll and a clown and you've been trying so hard in this topic, but how me being against lootboxes and wanting to earn my shit instead of having other people throwing money at a game to get the same stuff is "don't like working for things"? you're not making any sense anymore and in your half assed trolling talking with that clown darkphoenix you got confused? lmao Blue_Inigo posted... This coming from the dude with no job Oh wait this is the same fucking clown from that other topic? lmfao Doesn't have a job, defends lootboxes, shiggy fucking diggy Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:890832068] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things</quote> I know you're a troll and a clown and you've been trying so hard in this topic, but how me being against lootboxes and wanting to earn my shit instead of having other people throwing money at a game to get the same stuff is "don't like working for things"? you're not making any sense anymore and in your half assed trolling talking with that clown darkphoenix you got confused? lmao <cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>This coming from the dude with no job</quote> Oh wait this is the same fucking clown from that other topic? lmfao Doesn't have a job, defends lootboxes, shiggy fucking diggy Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:51:10 PM #121:	Cookie Bag posted... armandro posted... I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things I know you're a troll and a clown and you've been trying so hard in this topic, but how me being against lootboxes and wanting to earn my shit instead of having other people throwing money at a game to get the same stuff is "don't like working for things"? you're not making any sense anymore and in your half assed trolling talking with that clown darkphoenix you got confused? lmao You can be against lootboxes I'm specifically talking about OVERWATCH lootboxes that whole shit with EA and Battlefront 2 is terrible and should be stopped. --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890832147] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things</quote> I know you're a troll and a clown and you've been trying so hard in this topic, but how me being against lootboxes and wanting to earn my shit instead of having other people throwing money at a game to get the same stuff is "don't like working for things"? you're not making any sense anymore and in your half assed trolling talking with that clown darkphoenix you got confused? lmao</quote> You can be against lootboxes I'm specifically talking about OVERWATCH lootboxes that whole shit with EA and Battlefront 2 is terrible and should be stopped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:52:31 PM #122:	Blue_Inigo posted... armandro posted... Cookie Bag posted... armandro posted... they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification. I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things This coming from the dude with no job lol you think you need a job to work? how close minded are you --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890832212] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>they keep adding new skins tho they keep working on new stuff I'm not the one trying to control a free market dont like it dont play it let the people choose</quote> The people chose and they said they don't want bullshit lootboxes though, i'm sorry you can't throw money at a game again to get instant gratification.</quote> I have never bought a loot box. I like the system overwatch has I have every skin i want. Sorry you don't like working for things</quote> This coming from the dude with no job</quote> lol you think you need a job to work? how close minded are you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/21/17 7:52:46 PM #123:	Cookie Bag posted... Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then no apparently he plays all day long and is able to unlock everything so that is why he is defending the model so hard --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890832223] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then</quote> no apparently he plays all day long and is able to unlock everything so that is why he is defending the model so hard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 11/21/17 7:53:33 PM #124:	darkphoenix181 posted... Cookie Bag posted... Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then no apparently he plays all day long and is able to unlock everything so that is why he is defending the model so hard I play the game the skins just come. I'm not defending what EA is doing. You guys need to understand the difference --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:890832273] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>Mommy's credit card must be endless or something then</quote> no apparently he plays all day long and is able to unlock everything so that is why he is defending the model so hard</quote> I play the game the skins just come. I'm not defending what EA is doing. You guys need to understand the difference</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 11/21/17 8:06:26 PM #125:	darkphoenix181 posted... soulunison2 posted... Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments big words from a dude who doesn't offer his own up nor point out said weakness Yall both using emotion and confirmation bias to argue lmaoooo <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:890832957] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yo real talk yall both have stupid weak-ass arguments</quote> big words from a dude who doesn't offer his own up nor point out said weakness</quote> Yall both using emotion and confirmation bias to argue lmaoooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xBloodBrotherx 11/21/17 8:06:55 PM #126:	Tag --- The above post is literally and objectively right. <cite>xBloodBrotherx posted [p:890832996] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/21/17 8:08:19 PM #127:	Sweet. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890833076] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Sweet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 11/21/17 8:11:04 PM #128:	Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free". --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:890833241] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/21/17 8:17:13 PM #129:	St0rmFury posted... Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free". "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890833583] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free".</quote> "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 11/21/17 8:22:25 PM #130:	lol I play like 1-2 hours a day maybe 4 days a week and I'm lvl 806. the people who whine the most about not being able to get skins are the same people who make posts saying 'oh this event is over time to stop playing for a couple months' --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:890833871] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>lol I play like 1-2 hours a day maybe 4 days a week and I'm lvl 806. the people who whine the most about not being able to get skins are the same people who make posts saying 'oh this event is over time to stop playing for a couple months'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 8:28:05 PM #131:	hockeybub89 posted... St0rmFury posted... Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free". "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits. Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890834172] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free".</quote> "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits.</quote> Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/21/17 8:31:47 PM #133:	ChromaticAngel posted... hockeybub89 posted... St0rmFury posted... Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free". "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits. Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes They don't even need to go that far. All the player will have to do is spend money on the currency that'll buy them stuffcrates. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:890834370] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free".</quote> "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits.</quote> Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes</quote> They don't even need to go that far. All the player will have to do is spend money on the currency that'll buy them stuffcrates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 8:32:00 PM #134:	Sparksfanboy posted... What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler Yes. That's where everyone is going with this. Some guy crunched numbers and found out it would take $1000 to own every card assuming you dusted all golden cards. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890834383] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler</quote> Yes. That's where everyone is going with this. Some guy crunched numbers and found out it would take $1000 to own every card assuming you dusted all golden cards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/21/17 8:33:41 PM #135:	Sparksfanboy posted... What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler It doesn't sound like they are going after the concept of loot boxes or microtransactions, just wanting to ban paying real money for mystery contents. Can't you earn booster packs without real money? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890834471] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler</quote> It doesn't sound like they are going after the concept of loot boxes or microtransactions, just wanting to ban paying real money for mystery contents. Can't you earn booster packs without real money?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 8:35:09 PM #136:	hockeybub89 posted... Sparksfanboy posted... What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler It doesn't sound like they are going after the concept of loot boxes or microtransactions, just wanting to ban paying real money for mystery contents. Can't you earn booster packs without real money? yeah, there are daily quests and such. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890834550] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sparksfanboy posted...</cite> <quote>What counts as a loot box though? Do Hearthstone's booster packs count? If so could this fuck over nearly every online card game kingler</quote> It doesn't sound like they are going after the concept of loot boxes or microtransactions, just wanting to ban paying real money for mystery contents. Can't you earn booster packs without real money?</quote> yeah, there are daily quests and such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/21/17 8:36:02 PM #137:	Dragonblade01 posted... ChromaticAngel posted... hockeybub89 posted... St0rmFury posted... Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free". "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits. Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes They don't even need to go that far. All the player will have to do is spend money on the currency that'll buy them stuffcrates. Unless that gets banned too. I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890834603] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Can't publishers circumvent this like how Blizzard did with China? Buy in game currency and get loot boxes for "free".</quote> "If a currency can be bought with real money, then it can't be used to purchase loot boxes." Problem solved in 2 minutes flat. For example, you'd only be able to unlock alpha packs in Rainbox Six with renown, which only comes from matches and challenges, but not with Rainbow Credits.</quote> Oh that's not what they do. You buy the in game currency to complete a daily quest and the quest reward is lootboxes</quote> They don't even need to go that far. All the player will have to do is spend money on the currency that'll buy them stuffcrates.</quote> Unless that gets banned too. I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/21/17 8:38:02 PM #138:	hockeybub89 posted... Unless that gets banned too. I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it That would be a new precedent when it comes to video game regulation lol --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890834708] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Unless that gets banned too. I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it</quote> That would be a new precedent when it comes to video game regulation lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/21/17 8:39:24 PM #139:	hockeybub89 posted... I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it I wouldn't give governments that much credit. All governments seem quite out of touch with technology lately. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:890834786] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> I have to assume any potential action against paid loot boxes would have more than 30 seconds of thought put into it</quote> I wouldn't give governments that much credit. All governments seem quite out of touch with technology lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/21/17 8:41:18 PM #140:	Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890834890] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 8:42:39 PM #141:	Darmik posted... Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions. Would fucking love a system like this TBH as long as the selection was very broad and not "choose between two shitty items" --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890834966] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions.</quote> Would fucking love a system like this TBH as long as the selection was very broad and not "choose between two shitty items"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/21/17 8:44:26 PM #142:	ChromaticAngel posted... Darmik posted... Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions. Would fucking love a system like this TBH as long as the selection was very broad and not "choose between two shitty items" It doesn't really combat the whole pay to win criticism though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:890835083] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Another way around it would be to offer loot boxes to players who play for free while you can choose specifically what you want with paid microtransactions.</quote> Would fucking love a system like this TBH as long as the selection was very broad and not "choose between two shitty items"</quote> It doesn't really combat the whole pay to win criticism though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 8:48:49 PM #143:	Darmik posted... It doesn't really combat the whole pay to win criticism though. I don't particularly have objections to pay to win so long as the amount of money I need to pay is known ahead of time. Like, if you could just buy Vader and Luke for $10 each in BF2 straight up, we wouldn't be having this entire discussion about gambling. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890835325] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't really combat the whole pay to win criticism though.</quote> I don't particularly have objections to pay to win so long as the amount of money I need to pay is known ahead of time. Like, if you could just buy Vader and Luke for $10 each in BF2 straight up, we wouldn't be having this entire discussion about gambling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spidey5 11/21/17 8:59:13 PM #144:	RIP western studios. Without their newest garbage model they might have to resort to making good games for once. --- http://i.imgtc.com/Yg6FIm6IDU.png http://i.imgtc.com/Jb438Fm1I7.jpg http://i.imgtc.com/W4nkbYD64V.jpg <cite>Spidey5 posted [p:890835886] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>RIP western studios. Without their newest garbage model they might have to resort to making good games for once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 11/21/17 9:42:00 PM #145:	lootboxes are stupid but if people are stupid enough to spend tons of cash on em who cares tbh. unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:890838331] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>lootboxes are stupid but if people are stupid enough to spend tons of cash on em who cares tbh. unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/21/17 9:43:02 PM #146:	andel posted... unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility you actually physically own the prize you get from tickets. you don't own fucking shit you get out of a digital loot box. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890838379] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility</quote> you actually physically own the prize you get from tickets. you don't own fucking shit you get out of a digital loot box.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/21/17 9:44:16 PM #147:	andel posted... lootboxes are stupid but if people are stupid enough to spend tons of cash on em who cares tbh. unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility I do think the arcade is a bad example. Arcade games are not gambling. You put money in and get to play a game until you lose/game over. You can pay more money to continue/try again, but you know what you are getting into before hand. The only arcade game that's really gambling would be crane games, because they are designed to only work a fraction of the time. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:890838435] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>lootboxes are stupid but if people are stupid enough to spend tons of cash on em who cares tbh. unless belgium is also banning arcades that let kids turn in tickets for prizes they don't care about kids 'gambling' anyway, and that is a parental responsibility</quote> I do think the arcade is a bad example. Arcade games are not gambling. You put money in and get to play a game until you lose/game over. You can pay more money to continue/try again, but you know what you are getting into before hand. The only arcade game that's really gambling would be crane games, because they are designed to only work a fraction of the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDarkCircle 11/21/17 9:45:21 PM #148:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAYhuGFa0U <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:890838495] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAYhuGFa0U</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 11/21/17 9:46:05 PM #149:	darkphoenix181 posted... armandro posted... NeonOctopus posted... People who support lootboxes are probably kids who don't know a time without lootboxes or DLC in multiplayer games >_> lootboxes that don't affect gameplay are okay in my book. I don't know why people want to group overwatch in the same category. are people playing this game to show off? or do they actually just want to play the game. because the idea of a lootbox goes like this what if you have a nice skin people want to buy? what do you charge them? $5 $5 seems fair but wait!!! what if there is some people who would pay $50 for said skin if you only put it up for $5, then you lose $45 lootboxes answered this greedy question you give people a chance to get the item and they can stop when they hit their limit a person only willing to spend $5 to get said skin will only pay $5 whether they get it or not another person will spend hundreds of dollars to get it until they finally have it so it literally allows them to have their cake and eat it too rather than having to figure out a price that is high enough to make money off demand, but low enough to be enticing to the masses If someone is dumb enough to spend hundreds of dollars to get something they can get for free, they deserve to lose that money. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:890838549] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>People who support lootboxes are probably kids who don't know a time without lootboxes or DLC in multiplayer games >_></quote> lootboxes that don't affect gameplay are okay in my book. I don't know why people want to group overwatch in the same category. are people playing this game to show off? or do they actually just want to play the game.</quote> because the idea of a lootbox goes like this what if you have a nice skin people want to buy? what do you charge them? $5 $5 seems fair but wait!!! what if there is some people who would pay $50 for said skin if you only put it up for $5, then you lose $45 lootboxes answered this greedy question you give people a chance to get the item and they can stop when they hit their limit a person only willing to spend $5 to get said skin will only pay $5 whether they get it or not another person will spend hundreds of dollars to get it until they finally have it so it literally allows them to have their cake and eat it too rather than having to figure out a price that is high enough to make money off demand, but low enough to be enticing to the masses</quote> If someone is dumb enough to spend hundreds of dollars to get something they can get for free, they deserve to lose that money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoreRpgs 11/21/17 10:20:16 PM #150:	Great news <cite>MoreRpgs posted [p:890840364] in Belgium ha... [t:76016951]...</cite> <quote>Great news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Belgium has concluded its investigation on Loot Boxes and gambling