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YoshitoKikuchi 11/21/17 9:51:58 AM #1: |
Even a handshake or hug?
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SageHarpuia 11/21/17 9:52:54 AM #2: |
Ok, next time a woman taps my shoulder I'm taking her to court.
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lilORANG 11/21/17 9:53:43 AM #3: |
you probably shouldnt be hugging anyone who doesn't want a hug.
handshakes are two way streets, so if you extend a hand and they take it, then whatever. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sex-Machine 11/21/17 10:02:10 AM #4: |
Sex-Machine always initiates physical contact. Sex-Machine is loved by the ladies
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:04:21 AM #6: |
lilORANG posted...
you probably shouldnt be hugging anyone who doesn't want a hug. So hugs can only be initiated by females? Can I just hold my arms out as a request for hug, or should I get written permission? --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshitoKikuchi 11/21/17 10:07:34 AM #7: |
Asherlee10 posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? No, I am saying in this current climate that any physical contact at all can be misconstrued. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:08:11 AM #8: |
Asherlee10 posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? TC is clearly incapable of distinguishing between the two. Therefore, it's best we simply remove him from society entirely. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:08:45 AM #9: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? So yeah, you can't differentiate the difference. I'm setting you adrift. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 11/21/17 10:11:19 AM #10: |
Gotta laugh at all these people who can't tell the difference between normal human behaviour and creepy predatorial, non-consensual behaviour
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:14:28 AM #12: |
gunplagirl posted...
Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? Two idiotic responses from two rubes. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KazumaKiryu 11/21/17 10:14:38 AM #13: |
Yeah, that's the endgame here. Although these celebrity types did do really weird shit a lot of the time, it paints this picture of any advances being unacceptable, even if the woman acted interested at the time.
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That_Happened 11/21/17 10:16:13 AM #15: |
I get what TC is trying to say. I've definitely had moments when I was a teenager where I've misread signals and put an arm around a girl without realizing she wasn't into me, or grabbed an ex's butt when I thought she was hitting on me but I was incorrect. When you make mistakes like that you have to apologize in the moment, and hope she understands that it was a misunderstanding.
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:17:01 AM #16: |
KazumaKiryu posted...
Yeah, that's the endgame here. Although these celebrity types did do really weird shit a lot of the time, it paints this picture of any advances being unacceptable, even if the woman acted interested at the time. This. Don't contact anyone, ever, especially if you intend to run for public office. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:18:35 AM #17: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? Two girls who are critical of TC sexually harassing somebody after what he's said? What an incredibly specific and brand new definition of rube. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KazumaKiryu 11/21/17 10:20:22 AM #18: |
Asherlee10 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...Yeah, that's the endgame here. Although these celebrity types did do really weird shit a lot of the time, it paints this picture of any advances being unacceptable, even if the woman acted interested at the time. Ok, then what are your thoughts? It's different for you, you know. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 11/21/17 10:20:57 AM #19: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? Honestly, has there been anyone that has been condemned publicly recently for a hug or a handshake? From what I have seen, it's pretty much all been very overt stuff that has gotten them lambasted. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:26:04 AM #20: |
gunplagirl posted...
Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? Based on the context of this topic, I agree with TC. Fun fact: I've never sexually harassed anyone in my life, but I feel like I'm overly concerned about my actions now. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 11/21/17 10:27:39 AM #21: |
if things are inappropriate, they will let you know by their behavior. and when you get that indication, you stop.
it's REALLY simple. if you really did hug someone and they were uncomfortable. you can apologize, and not do it again. same thing with a handshake. you would not get sued for harassment ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 11/21/17 10:29:10 AM #22: |
Silver Bearings posted...
Fun fact: I've never sexually harassed anyone in my life, but I feel like I'm overly concerned about my actions now. Shouldn't we all be overly concerned about how we treat other people? I know that's simplifying it but if anything the current allegations have made me think about my own behavior and how I should have conducted myself differently, and how I won't make the same mistakes I made in the past. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:29:40 AM #23: |
Fam_Fam posted...
they will let you know by their behavior Not everyone has the social awareness to interpret body language. This may not help socially awkward people. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:31:25 AM #24: |
That_Happened posted...
Silver Bearings posted...Fun fact: I've never sexually harassed anyone in my life, but I feel like I'm overly concerned about my actions now. I'm not talking about reasonable consideration. I'm talking about holding the door for someone at work, or having non-work related conversations (I'm naturally flirty when I talk, but I never push anything that is unwanted). But now I overthink and it is making conversations more awkward...like regressing into social awkwardness. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 11/21/17 10:31:29 AM #25: |
Silver Bearings posted...
Fam_Fam posted...they will let you know by their behavior And from what I've read, not all women will react negatively in the moment. Like with Louis CK, they put up with his behavior because they were in his hotel room and they were just trying to avoid conflict until they could escape. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:38:17 AM #26: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...Asherlee10 posted...YoshitoKikuchi posted...Even a handshake or hug? How can you be certain you have never done so? Because at some point in your adolescence you almost certainly did do something of a sexual nature that somebody else was harmed by. Probably by virtue of some dick joke. The important distinction being that those are things that people mature beyond, if only to the point they stop making the jokes in public where strangers overhear them. President Tangerine being one of the few exceptions. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 11/21/17 10:40:10 AM #27: |
Man CE never fails to disappoint me with the unhealthy view on women.
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:40:24 AM #28: |
That_Happened posted...
Silver Bearings posted...Fun fact: I've never sexually harassed anyone in my life, but I feel like I'm overly concerned about my actions now. And exploring these past moments and how they might have harmed others is good. It's demonstrating that you're able to act on empathy and figure out how your actions may have harmed others from their perspective. This is a good thing to look into, as it is something most people never take time to consider. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:46:55 AM #29: |
gunplagirl posted...
How can you be certain you have never done so? I'm damn certain, and anyone that knows me would agree. As an illustrative example, I don't make dick jokes as I find them to be distasteful. But I understand that there aren't many people out there like me, and no one here knows me so they aren't likely to buy it. But it's true. --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:49:41 AM #30: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...How can you be certain you have never done so? I still find that incredibly unlikely that not once has your presence, demeanor, tone or word usage possibly been offensive to women around you in a sexual capacity. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:50:19 AM #31: |
Error1355 posted...
Man CE never fails to disappoint me with the unhealthy view on women. Look at what is dominating the headlines. Yes, I'm sure all of these women are being truthful and brave for stepping forward. But, what if, one...just one is fabricating and maliciously ruining someone's life for nefarious reasons. What should be done about that if proven? --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 11/21/17 10:50:52 AM #32: |
>Strawman: The topic
Yup, it's a day that ends in -day on CE, alright. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:51:13 AM #33: |
gunplagirl posted...
incredibly unlikely So you're saying there's a chance... --- "Employee demonstrates an acceptable level of competence." #2 Tom Brady Fan, Local Disc Golf Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:52:34 AM #34: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...incredibly unlikely Oh yes, there's a chance between you and me. <3 Oh wait that's not what you meant. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 11/21/17 10:53:50 AM #35: |
Silver Bearings posted...
Error1355 posted...Man CE never fails to disappoint me with the unhealthy view on women. That sounds uncannily similar to the experiences of all the women coming forward, with one big exception. They were harassed or worse, and had these fears about speaking up. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 11/21/17 10:56:57 AM #36: |
gunplagirl posted...
Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...How can you be certain you have never done so? I think the issue is, if nearly all men are guilty of sexual harassment at some point in their lives (as you seem to be suggesting) are we all just waiting to pay for it? Should there be a difference between someone who has made an honest mistake and someone who is a "sexual harasser?" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:57:06 AM #37: |
gunplagirl posted...
Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...incredibly unlikely Insert dry, inert response to subvert inappropriate comment baiting... :) --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 10:58:29 AM #38: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...incredibly unlikely Those ellipses are hiding subtext and the smiley is because you think you got away with it. It being my heart. ^_- --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 10:58:46 AM #39: |
scar the 1 posted...
Silver Bearings posted...Error1355 posted...Man CE never fails to disappoint me with the unhealthy view on women. This does not address my comment in any way. Did you quote the wrong post? --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 11:00:23 AM #40: |
gunplagirl posted...
Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...incredibly unlikely [A] Abort, [R] Retry, [F] Fail? --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 11/21/17 11:01:40 AM #41: |
My female co-worker hits me on the arm. Am I going to be rich?
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gunplagirl 11/21/17 11:01:47 AM #42: |
Silver Bearings posted...
gunplagirl posted...Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...Silver Bearings posted...gunplagirl posted...incredibly unlikely A, abort all the babies. Even the ones who were already born. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver Bearings 11/21/17 11:05:26 AM #43: |
gunplagirl posted...
A, abort all the babies. Even the ones who were already born. The end of humanity. --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America ... Copied to Clipboard!
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seiki 11/21/17 11:06:31 AM #44: |
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SavenForever 11/21/17 11:15:42 AM #45: |
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scar the 1 11/21/17 11:59:46 AM #46: |
Silver Bearings posted...
scar the 1 posted...Silver Bearings posted...Error1355 posted...Man CE never fails to disappoint me with the unhealthy view on women. Nope, I quoted the correct one. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshitoKikuchi 11/21/17 5:39:23 PM #48: |
Pixar chief taking a leave of absense:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/21/16687192/pixar-disney-animation-john-lasseter-sexual-harassment-complaints Lasseter is described as an enthusiastic hugger, but the allegations go far beyond that. According to the story, women in the company resorted to a move they nicknamed The Lasseter to prevent the executive from putting his hands on their legs without consent --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead http://i.imgur.com/YQpeyD3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 11/21/17 5:43:30 PM #49: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Pixar chief taking a leave of absense: So once again, someone being accused of something pretty overt and not normal like a handshake or a hug. Acting like you have to walk on eggshells now is just silly. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Touch 11/21/17 5:46:22 PM #50: |
lilORANG posted...
you probably shouldnt be hugging anyone who doesn't want a hug. You know what else is a two way street? Ass 2 ass --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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