Current Events > So is the end of net neutrality going to kill the internet?

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I feel like I lived in the wild wild west days of the internet. I really enjoyed forums like LUElinks, SA, Gamefaqs, image boards like 4chan and 7chan, flash sites like AlbinoBlackSheep, JibJab, NewGrounds, etc.

I feel like we are heading towards the end of a great era. What will I do without these things? What will life be like?

I'm scared CE ;_;

Omfg quit dramatizing

They'll break it up, then have a bundle that's like $10 more than what you're paying now for "unrestricted" internet access and everything will be fine

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<
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wackyteen posted...

Omfg quit dramatizing

They'll break it up, then have a bundle that's like $10 more than what you're paying now for "unrestricted" internet access and everything will be fine

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<

I DON'T LIKE CHANGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yes. its going to be absolutely catastrophic to the Internet.

anything to spite teh liberals!! tho
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That's not to say the internet won't suffer as a result but it's hardly end of fucking days
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wackyteen posted...

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<

And the ISPs will fight tooth and nail to keep it from gaining any traction, like they did to Google Fiber.
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It won't kill the internet or anything, but it'll potentially make it more expensive, harder for new players to compete with the established ones (as the latter will be able to pay for preferential speeds) or with the ISPs' own services and harder for new ISPs to enter the market (e.g. see pole attachment rights), allow ISPs to modify traffic (to add trackers, spyware, ads and other data or even to remove encryption in some cases), etc.

wackyteen posted...

Omfg quit dramatizing

They'll break it up, then have a bundle that's like $10 more than what you're paying now for "unrestricted" internet access and everything will be fine

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<

wackyteen posted...

That's not to say the internet won't suffer as a result but it's hardly end of fucking days

lol what a strange passive attitude to have
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I'm probably going to make a lot of sacrifices to keep my image boards.

Screw reddit though.

It's not the end of days, but the idea that getting rid of net neutrality is going to innovate the internet is just lol worthy.
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NinjaBreakfast posted...

lol what a strange passive attitude to have

I'm just fucking sick and tired of the constant dramatizing Reddit gives the subject

I'm fucking worn out by the fear and outrage
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wackyteen posted...

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<

Lol. Good luck seeing any new ones start up. You will be reduced to taking what little you are given and you will need to smile while doing it.
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wackyteen posted...

NinjaBreakfast posted...

lol what a strange passive attitude to have

I'm just fucking sick and tired of the constant dramatizing Reddit gives the subject

I'm fucking worn out by the fear and outrage

lmao normie GTFO

Prestoff posted...

It's not the end of days, but the idea that getting rid of net neutrality is going to innovate the internet is just lol worthy.

Oh, ISPs will innovate... by coming up with new ways to screw people over.

Funkydog posted...

wackyteen posted...

And there'll be some startup that has "no limits on your internet" that'll rise up from the death of net neutrality <_<

Lol. Good luck seeing any new ones start up. You will be reduced to taking what little you are given and you will need to smile while doing it.

So like how most of my life has been, gotcha
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wackyteen posted...

So like how most of my life has been, gotcha

So it is okay for everyone else to be reduced down to that level, with no chance of getting better?
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No, net neutrality is not a good thing.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Surely you can explain why it's not a good thing.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Not even a little surprised by this shitpost.
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Prestoff posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Surely you can explain why it's not a good thing.

Splitting up an (infinite) quantity based on subjective qualifiers is never a good thing
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Zeeak4444 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Not even a little surprised by this shitpost.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was serious. There's two camps of people who think it's bad.

1) Spite liberals
2) Doesn't understand what net neutrality is.
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probably not in the way you're thinking, they know actually upping the prices or presenting it in packs will piss people off so they'll just squeeze cash out of the websites themselves like they did before NN was made law

still a bad thing

Tmaster148 posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Not even a little surprised by this shitpost.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was serious. There's two camps of people who think it's bad.

1) Spite liberals
2) Doesn't understand what net neutrality is.

Based on his posting in the past he probably is dead serious. Likely for both reasons you mentioned.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Not even a little surprised by this shitpost.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was serious. There's two camps of people who think it's bad.

1) Spite liberals
2) Doesn't understand what net neutrality is.

Based on his posting in the past he probably is dead serious. Likely for both reasons you mentioned.

That's why I asked for his justification why he thinks net neutrality is a bad thing. In most cases, it's just a contrarian that wants to be different from the crowd.
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What makes it good or bad? Don't understand what it means
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Prestoff posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

No, net neutrality is not a good thing.

Surely you can explain why it's not a good thing.

Here's a good post on what it is.

http://redbloodedamerica.tumblr.com/post/163369608917/net-neutrality-big-government-bullshit-we-dont
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

http://redbloodedamerica.tumblr.com

Tumblr and an obviously bias name for the blog.

This has to be one of the worst sources you could of possibly picked to defend removal of net neutrality.
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So basically your reasoning is

"It is okay for businesses to fuck you over because that is what businesses are allowed to do"
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Did you even read it?
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Did you even read it?

Unfortunately. Nothing changed.

Edit: Also of note you can bring your own popcorn or chinese food into the theater. I brought cold stone in yesterday to see Thor. It was a shit "article" that's fluffed with big words that were wholly unnecessary except to trick the idiot fan base into thinking the author was more credible than he really is. But I won't talk on something without reading it first so here we are.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Did you even read it?

I read the brief excerpt in your original post, and that was what it basically seemed to be saying tbh.
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Funkydog posted...

So basically your reasoning is

"It is okay for businesses to fuck you over because that is what businesses are allowed to do"

I mean I could accept this if ISPs were like literally every other industry and you actually had multiple alternatives you could take your business to. However it is often the case where you only have one choice of ISP in your area so if they want to fuck you over then you have no other choice.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

Funkydog posted...

So basically your reasoning is

"It is okay for businesses to fuck you over because that is what businesses are allowed to do"

I mean I could accept this if ISPs were like literally every other industry and you actually had multiple alternatives you could take your business to. However it is often the case where you only have one choice of ISP in your area so if they want to fuck you over then you have no other choice.

Hell even if there is a choice, the other option might not even be viable.

Like where I live we have Time Warner and Verizon for internet options. But Verizon only offers DSL which is significantly slower than the Broadband Time Warner offers. So it's not like there's really a choice.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

I mean I could accept this if ISPs were like literally every other industry and you actually had multiple alternatives you could take your business to. However it is often the case where you only have one choice of ISP in your area so if they want to fuck you over then you have no other choice.

That is another big issue in America, yeah. Here at least I can threaten to leave for a competitor to get a better deal if I really wanted, or just choose one of the many others in the first place.
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Funkydog posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

Did you even read it?

I read the brief excerpt in your original post, and that was what it basically seemed to be saying tbh.

I did. You didn't miss anything at all.
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Tmaster148 posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

Funkydog posted...

So basically your reasoning is

"It is okay for businesses to fuck you over because that is what businesses are allowed to do"

I mean I could accept this if ISPs were like literally every other industry and you actually had multiple alternatives you could take your business to. However it is often the case where you only have one choice of ISP in your area so if they want to fuck you over then you have no other choice.

Hell even if there is a choice, the other option might not even be viable.

Like where I live we have Time Warner and Verizon for internet options. But Verizon only offers DSL which is significantly slower than the Broadband Time Warner offers. So it's not like there's really a choice.

Me too, man. In my area it's only Time Warner or Verizon DSL. Verizon DSL was great... Back in 2001.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/18613/7-reasons-net-neutrality-idiotic-aaron-bandler

The better way to ensure net neutrality is to breathe more capitalism into the ISP market rather than government control. Tuttle explains how municipal governments are responsible for creating ISP monopolies:

Finally, municipal governments should look for ways to encourage, rather than discourage, broadband investment. Local governments and their public utilities are notorious for charging broadband companies exorbitant prices for access to publicly owned rights of way, without which they cannot erect the infrastructure necessary for Internet service. These municipal monopolies are among the chief reasons that many places have little or no competition among ISPs. But it doesnt have to be this way. Kansas City, Austin, and Provo all hammered out favorable agreements with Google Fiber, the Internet giants ultra-high-speed broadband project, and several other cities have followed suit. Kansas City officials partially credit the arrangement for the citys ascendancy as a tech hub. Meanwhile, other ISPs have increased their offerings to compete: Verizon and AT&T both recently announced plans to offer higher-speed Internet hookups for customers in select areas.

Instead, the FCC should be encouraging de-regulation in order bring in more competition, which is the real check against corporate abuse.

If there is to be a standard for consumer protection with regard to ISPs, then perhaps it would better for Congress to pass a clear statute that maintains light regulation on the ISP market while returning the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to its role of being the enforcer in such matters.

Maintaining the FCC's heavy hand in the ISP market will only harm consumers.

More in the article.
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ok dude, we get it, you want to pay a fuck ton more money just because you dislike liberals
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Kamala_Harris posted...

I feel like I lived in the wild wild west days of the internet. I really enjoyed forums like LUElinks, SA, Gamefaqs, image boards like 4chan and 7chan, flash sites like AlbinoBlackSheep, JibJab, NewGrounds, etc.

I feel like we are heading towards the end of a great era. What will I do without these things? What will life be like?

I'm scared CE ;_;

Only in America: The land of the free. lol