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Suprak the Stud
11/20/17 5:36:12 PM
#101:


WaPo was once again the one that broke the story, same outlet as the Moore accusations.

I'm sure the hardcore Donald Trump supporters out there will rally to his defense and possibly elect him senator from Alabama.
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Corrik
11/20/17 5:37:36 PM
#102:


Who?
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Lopen
11/20/17 5:39:13 PM
#103:


I'm pretty skeptical of the Charlie Rose one tbh. Man has always seemed like an utmost professional to me, and it shows even in his reaction to the accusations.

I mean certainly could be wrong as I don't know the guy on any sort of personal level but yeah he just really doesn't seem the type.
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Suprak the Stud
11/20/17 5:44:55 PM
#104:


Lopen posted...
I'm pretty skeptical of the Charlie Rose one tbh. Man has always seemed like an utmost professional to me, and it shows even in his reaction to the accusations.

I mean certainly could be wrong as I don't know the guy on any sort of personal level but yeah he just really doesn't seem the type.


You think that eight different woman from the 90's to 2011 all got together and fabricated similar stories about Rose? Or what do you mean by being skeptical of it?

He also half apologized for it, so there is something there more than "nothing" imo.

It is essential that these women know I hear them and that I deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed. I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept responsibility for that, though I do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate. I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken.

I have learned a great deal as a result of these events, and I hope others will too. All of us, including me, are coming to a newer and deeper recognition of the pain caused by conduct in the past, and have come to a profound new respect for women and their lives.

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Suprak the Stud
11/20/17 5:45:25 PM
#105:


Corrik posted...
Who?


Derrick Rose's estranged grandfather.
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Corrik
11/20/17 5:46:31 PM
#106:


At this point I think any responses anymore are just damage control. I believe someone would just damage control over saying what they really think of the allegation at this point.
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Lopen
11/20/17 5:55:34 PM
#107:


I'm sure there's "more than nothing."

The question is whether "more than nothing" crosses the line into "inappropriate" with things like these. Which ultimately comes down to how hyperbolic the claims are, etc etc. Any prominent figure who at any point made any sort of advance on any woman, even when it's not really unprofessional, can be at risk of being accused for stuff like this and the accusation will have a basis that amounts to "more than nothing." Doesn't mean they're all legitimate either, though.

I'll be interested to read into the details behind the accusations on this one in the coming days or weeks.
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Suprak the Stud
11/20/17 6:02:54 PM
#108:


The details that are already out are pretty damning. This is way more than "making any sort of advance on a woman".

Kyle Godfrey-Ryan, one of Roses assistants in the mid-2000s, recalled at least a dozen instances where Rose walked nude in front of her while she worked in one of his New York City homes. He also repeatedly called the then-21-year-old late at night or early in the morning to describe his fantasies of her swimming naked in the Bellport pool as he watched from his bedroom, she said.

It feels branded into me, the details of it, Godfrey-Ryan said.

She said she told Yvette Vega, Roses longtime executive producer, about the calls.


In a statement to The Post, Vega said she should have done more to protect the young women on the show.

I should have stood up for them, said Vega, 52, who has worked with Rose since the show was created in 1991. I failed. It is crushing. I deeply regret not helping them.

Godfrey-Ryan said that when Rose learned she had confided to a mutual friend about his conduct, he fired her.

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Lopen
11/20/17 6:16:46 PM
#109:


Yeah I will admit that's not a good opening look at all.

I still wanna look into it though-- hopefully there's more on this. Curious how many of these 8 claims Vega would corroborate, or if anyone else on the staff would corroborate this one or others. Like Charlie Rose is in the twilight of his career right now so I don't think it'd be career suicide for people to come forward like it may have been at some point, especially since he's playing on a backfoot already.

Guess we'll see, though. I'm just saying like, he's one of the last guys I would've guessed to get hit-- definitely possible he's just good at his job and a total sleaze, but it seems like the thing where this stuff would've caught up to him even at a basic level well before this because of the nature of his job. Like he's far from in a vacuum-- dude's probably one of the more widespread celebs out there as far as number of people he's been in contact with because yeah, guy's got like 2000 interviews out there or some crap, is frequently travelling and interacting with a ton of different staffs, etc.
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Corrik
11/21/17 10:48:55 AM
#110:


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/powerful-dem-rep-john-conyers-
hit-by-report-on-sexual-conduct-with-ex-staffers.html

Shit is getting out of control.

Gfaqs is dumb and thinks link is a censor bypass
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Suprak the Stud
11/21/17 10:59:05 AM
#111:


Originally reportedly on by buzzfeed of all places.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/she-complained-that-a-powerful-congressman-harassed-her?utm_term=.nxNyk2Oll#.ugQOMoDmm

Good to see that even in important political stories that buzzfeed sticks to clickbait titles. You would think John Conyers accused of sexual harassment and misusing taxpayer funds would be enough.
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trdl23
11/21/17 1:07:27 PM
#112:


Corrik posted...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/powerful-dem-rep-john-conyers-
hit-by-report-on-sexual-conduct-with-ex-staffers.html

Shit is getting out of control.

Gfaqs is dumb and thinks link is a censor bypass

Jfc, thats my congressman.
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Suprak the Stud
11/21/17 1:13:58 PM
#113:


CBS fired Charlie Rose.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/21/media/cbs-news-fires-charlie-rose/index.html

trdl23 posted...
Corrik posted...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/powerful-dem-rep-john-conyers-
hit-by-report-on-sexual-conduct-with-ex-staffers.html

Shit is getting out of control.

Gfaqs is dumb and thinks link is a censor bypass

Jfc, thats my congressman.


I'm kind of surprised this didn't immediately blow up like the Franken stuff did since this is like 100 times worse. He needs to be removed immediately.
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Corrik
11/21/17 1:37:48 PM
#114:


Suprak the Stud posted...
CBS fired Charlie Rose.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/21/media/cbs-news-fires-charlie-rose/index.html

trdl23 posted...
Corrik posted...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/21/powerful-dem-rep-john-conyers-
hit-by-report-on-sexual-conduct-with-ex-staffers.html

Shit is getting out of control.

Gfaqs is dumb and thinks link is a censor bypass

Jfc, thats my congressman.


I'm kind of surprised this didn't immediately blow up like the Franken stuff did since this is like 100 times worse. He needs to be removed immediately.

He is a democrat.
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Suprak the Stud
11/21/17 1:46:12 PM
#115:


I mean Franken is a democrat too so the comparison should be apples to apples even if you want to allege bias.

Could just be he has less name recognition I suppose.
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charmander6000
11/21/17 1:49:35 PM
#116:


Mugabe has officially resigned

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42071488
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Suprak the Stud
11/21/17 1:53:34 PM
#117:


In "not illegal but really freaking weird" news, Roy Moore basically admitted in interviews he specifically remembers first meeting his wife when he was like 30 and she was 15.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/roy-moore-kayla-kisor-15-years-old/index.html
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Corrik
11/21/17 1:59:27 PM
#118:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I mean Franken is a democrat too so the comparison should be apples to apples even if you want to allege bias.

Could just be he has less name recognition I suppose.

You can toss one sacrificial lamb out to try and get your Moore stuff done (especially with only minor indiscretions which shouldn't result in anything).
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:01:14 PM
#119:


Suprak the Stud posted...
In "not illegal but really freaking weird" news, Roy Moore basically admitted in interviews he specifically remembers first meeting his wife when he was like 30 and she was 15.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/roy-moore-kayla-kisor-15-years-old/index.html

I mean that wouldn't really be weird if it wasn't for the surrounding noise. It is weird in relation for sure.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:03:21 PM
#120:


Like, let's get this seat for democrats... Woooo.

Okay now they are gonna think we are biased. Ahh, we can run this basically inconsequential stuff about this democrat to up our not biased cred.

News about another long serving democrat comes up which looks worse... Well, shit we are trying to look unbiased but we cannot be that unbiased. JFC. Our viewers are Democrats for crying out loud.

*Shrug*.

This isn't an entirely serious view. Ofc.
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Espeon
11/21/17 2:14:54 PM
#121:


Im gonna be a cynic here and say no one knows Conyers, therefore its not AS important to certain narrative crafters to drag him through the mud as it is to do for Franken, Who is a prominent face of the Democrats atm.
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trdl23
11/21/17 2:24:45 PM
#122:


Espeon posted...
Im gonna be a cynic here and say no one knows Conyers, therefore its not AS important to certain narrative crafters to drag him through the mud as it is to do for Franken, Who is a prominent face of the Democrats atm.

This is more accurate. Everyone in southeast Michigan knows him... and thats about it.

Theres even a street in Detroit named after him. Man, this is going to get awkward.
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Kenri
11/21/17 2:26:13 PM
#123:


Corrik posted...
I mean that wouldn't really be weird if it wasn't for the surrounding noise. It is weird in relation for sure.

...no it's pretttty weird regardless, dude
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:31:54 PM
#124:


Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
I mean that wouldn't really be weird if it wasn't for the surrounding noise. It is weird in relation for sure.

...no it's pretttty weird regardless, dude

Not really. Having seen someone before is weird? Okay.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/21/17 2:34:28 PM
#125:


meeting her when she was 15 isn't weird.

the "i knew kayla was going to be a special person in my life" comment, however, is quite weird.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:34:53 PM
#126:


Corrik posted...
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
I mean that wouldn't really be weird if it wasn't for the surrounding noise. It is weird in relation for sure.

...no it's pretttty weird regardless, dude

Not really. Having seen someone before is weird? Okay.


He's implying she made enough of an impression on him just by looking at her that he remembered her 8 years later.

If you're 30 and looking at a 15 year old in such a way that that happens, then yes, it's a little weird.

""I knew Kayla was going to be a special person in my life," Moore wrote about when he first saw her when she was 15 years old."

this is very weird
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:35:56 PM
#127:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
meeting her when she was 15 isn't weird.

the "i knew kayla was going to be a special person in my life" comment, however, is quite weird.

People say that shit all the time. It really isn't weird outside the surrounding noise.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:37:20 PM
#128:


Corrik posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
meeting her when she was 15 isn't weird.

the "i knew kayla was going to be a special person in my life" comment, however, is quite weird.

People say that shit all the time. It really isn't weird outside the surrounding noise.


So you're saying a 30 year old being attracted to a minor isn't weird
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Mr Lasastryke
11/21/17 2:38:07 PM
#129:


i mean, i could see myself meeting a 15 year old girl and still remembering her when i see her again 8 years later. my memory is quite good. but yeah, the comment makes it very weird.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:38:57 PM
#130:


HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
meeting her when she was 15 isn't weird.

the "i knew kayla was going to be a special person in my life" comment, however, is quite weird.

People say that shit all the time. It really isn't weird outside the surrounding noise.


So you're saying a 30 year old being attracted to a minor isn't weird

He didn't anywhere in your quote in any form say she was attractive. (Though saying a young lady is attractive is not weird either tbqh). You are again changing context to what you want it to be. Which you wouldn't be doing outside the surrounding circumstances. It is like you wanna prove my point.

Plus, you are also discounting that he is talking about his current wife. There is a backhand chance he is also just trying to compliment his wife and make her feel special now.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/21/17 2:40:05 PM
#131:


Corrik posted...
People say that shit all the time.


...no they don't?

not sure what kind of friends you have but i don't know many adults who say "she's such a special person in my life" about girls who aren't of age they met once.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:41:55 PM
#132:


Corrik posted...
You are again changing context to what you want it to be.


Like hell I am

You don't say "She's going to be someone special in my life" and remember somebody for 8 years if you weren't attracted to them. JUST remembering, sure, but not in that way.

How else was she going to be "special?" Did he see the future and she was going to grow up to be a doctor that saves his life or something?

Come on, now.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:44:06 PM
#133:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
People say that shit all the time.


...no they don't?

not sure what kind of friends you have but i don't know many adults who say "she's such a special person in my life" about girls who aren't of age they met once.

Again. Wasn't said. Keep twisting. He said I knew she was going to be a special person in my life.

Nothing different then meeting a girl in your 30s who is 25 and being like...yeah you used to date my little brothers best friend back when you were 15. I saw you once. There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode. Not weird in a vacuum. You are just trying to make it weird to support your narratives.

What is weird is going on a date with a girl who is 14 when you are 30 when the age of consent is 16 in your state.

What is weird is roughing up a girl who denied your advances or trying to..
If true, those are what the real issue is.
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Dancedreamer
11/21/17 2:45:03 PM
#134:


Even if all the allegations against Moore are untrue, he's still a tool, and a terrible human being. Throw in the allegations, and you just make him a worse human being.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:46:26 PM
#135:


Corrik posted...
There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode.


Ooh, ooh, I know this one

"Again. Wasn't said. Keep twisting."

He said she was specifically "going to be special" in his life.

"Special" is not "we might cross paths again"
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Dancedreamer
11/21/17 2:47:34 PM
#136:


Corrik posted...
Nothing different then meeting a girl in your 30s who is 25 and being like...yeah you used to date my little brothers best friend back when you were 15. I saw you once. There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode. Not weird in a vacuum. You are just trying to make it weird to support your narratives.


No, that's still really fucking weird.

I've never heard anyone say anything like that, ever.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:49:20 PM
#137:


HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
You are again changing context to what you want it to be.


Like hell I am

You don't say "She's going to be someone special in my life" and remember somebody for 8 years if you weren't attracted to them. JUST remembering, sure, but not in that way.

How else was she going to be "special?" Did he see the future and she was going to grow up to be a doctor that saves his life or something?

Come on, now.

You can find attraction in girls who are not 18 yet or think they are attractive. You just cannot do things with them until they are 18 and not be trying to. (Or whatever the age of consent is) Literally websites with tens of thousands of men who count down ages until famous actresses are 18.

Literally arguing this.

Forgot. He is a a Republican. LMFAO.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:50:25 PM
#138:


Corrik posted...
Literally websites with tens of thousands of men who count down ages until famous actresses are 18.


Yes.

And this is weird if they're not also near 18.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:50:54 PM
#139:


Dancedreamer posted...
Corrik posted...
Nothing different then meeting a girl in your 30s who is 25 and being like...yeah you used to date my little brothers best friend back when you were 15. I saw you once. There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode. Not weird in a vacuum. You are just trying to make it weird to support your narratives.


No, that's still really fucking weird.

I've never heard anyone say anything like that, ever.

Probably cuz you live on a message board and have like no social interaction in life. Go out and socialize more, bud.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:52:12 PM
#140:


HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode.


Ooh, ooh, I know this one

"Again. Wasn't said. Keep twisting."

He said she was specifically "going to be special" in his life.

"Special" is not "we might cross paths again"

Special could be that she would be the nurse who changes his diapers when he was in a nursing home.

He didn't say... "I saw that 15 year old and was like damn she is hot. I knew I was getting up in that vagina one day"
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:53:17 PM
#141:


Corrik posted...
Dancedreamer posted...
Corrik posted...
Nothing different then meeting a girl in your 30s who is 25 and being like...yeah you used to date my little brothers best friend back when you were 15. I saw you once. There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode. Not weird in a vacuum. You are just trying to make it weird to support your narratives.


No, that's still really fucking weird.

I've never heard anyone say anything like that, ever.

Probably cuz you live on a message board and have like no social interaction in life. Go out and socialize more, bud.


Isn't the social norm "half your age plus seven" or else it's "weird?"
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LapisLazuli
11/21/17 2:53:40 PM
#142:


I hate to post in this topic but maaaaaaaan Corrik you are reaching.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:54:04 PM
#143:


Corrik posted...
Special could be that she would be the nurse who changes his diapers when he was in a nursing home.

He didn't say... "I saw that 15 year old and was like damn she is hot. I knew I was getting up in that vagina one day"


So you're, on record, going with the first being more likely than the second?
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Dancedreamer
11/21/17 2:54:08 PM
#144:


Corrik posted...
Probably cuz you live on a message board and have like no social interaction in life. Go out and socialize more, bud.


I have more of a social life than you do. It's fucking weird. You're just defending anything conservatives do because you're a conservative.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:54:10 PM
#145:


HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
Dancedreamer posted...
Corrik posted...
Nothing different then meeting a girl in your 30s who is 25 and being like...yeah you used to date my little brothers best friend back when you were 15. I saw you once. There always seemed to be something about you that made me feel we would cross paths again down the rode. Not weird in a vacuum. You are just trying to make it weird to support your narratives.


No, that's still really fucking weird.

I've never heard anyone say anything like that, ever.

Probably cuz you live on a message board and have like no social interaction in life. Go out and socialize more, bud.


Isn't the social norm "half your age plus seven" or else it's "weird?"

What??? Lol....
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:55:29 PM
#146:


Corrik posted...
What??? Lol....


You've never heard of the "half your age plus seven" rule?

Sounds like you're the one who doesn't leave message boards!
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:55:53 PM
#147:


Dancedreamer posted...
Corrik posted...
Probably cuz you live on a message board and have like no social interaction in life. Go out and socialize more, bud.


I have more of a social life than you do. It's fucking weird. You're just defending anything conservatives do because you're a conservative.

Except no. If anything, I have defended Franken more than anyone. I just don't deal with the bullshit that doesn't apply that people try to use to justify their positions or villify people so they seem cooler and easier to dislike.

It doesn't sound like you need to twist and make too much shit up to dislike Moore as is. No reason to create bullshit to add to it.
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Corrik
11/21/17 2:56:36 PM
#148:


HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
What??? Lol....


You've never heard of the "half your age plus seven" rule?

Sounds like you're the one who doesn't leave message boards!

Sounds like something you read on a message board. Tbqh.
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HashtagSEP
11/21/17 2:57:18 PM
#149:


Corrik posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
What??? Lol....


You've never heard of the "half your age plus seven" rule?

Sounds like you're the one who doesn't leave message boards!

Sounds like something you read on a message board. Tbqh.


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Corrik
11/21/17 3:01:19 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...
What??? Lol....


You've never heard of the "half your age plus seven" rule?

Sounds like you're the one who doesn't leave message boards!

Sounds like something you read on a message board. Tbqh.


Corrik doesn't have experience with social interactions confirmed


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