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NeonOctopus
11/15/17 8:53:39 AM
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I just want to see him one punch shittalking villains >_> I'm not a fan of this hero league drama that came out halfway through the first season.
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ChromaticAngel
11/15/17 8:55:46 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I just want to see him one punch shittalking villains >_> I'm not a fan of this hero league drama that came out halfway through the first season.

It's there because Saitama is bored.
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Link HT
11/15/17 8:56:18 AM
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You're like that kid whose favorite character in everything is just the strongest one, aren't you?
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Mako_Sharknado
11/15/17 8:56:39 AM
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I had the opposite problem where Saitama became borin' quickly'n the others stole the show

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pinky0926
11/15/17 8:56:42 AM
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I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.
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s0nicfan
11/15/17 8:57:11 AM
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Mumen Rider is the real hero of the show.
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Link HT
11/15/17 8:57:20 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done
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SkittyOnWailord
11/15/17 8:58:04 AM
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Is Goku your favorite Dragon Ball character too?
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pinky0926
11/15/17 8:59:40 AM
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Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done


It's legit though. Saitama has no physical weaknesses. He just sucks at being cool. That's why Genos is the perfect foil. He's considerably weaker than Saitama but he's the "coolest" hero around and he excels at all the things Saitama sucks at and wants to be good at.
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voldothegr8
11/15/17 9:00:17 AM
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Other than Saitama showing up to satisfyingly punch a bitch, the side characters are the best part.
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SkittyOnWailord
11/15/17 9:00:29 AM
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Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done


What about this one.

The show is about a man that likes to fist other men. But gets bored that no one can fist him back.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/15/17 9:02:32 AM
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I just finished rewatching it last night, the hero league shit is the best part. Though I can't wait to see how strong Sonic really is.
The drama around the supporting characters is what makes Saitama work, otherwise it would pointless, no better than "ouch my balls"
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quinfordmac
11/15/17 9:06:33 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

dunno why people are shitting on this because this is actually pretty accurate.

also as others have said: the side characters made the show 10x better. much more interesting than saitama (tho i recognize the creators intended for saitama to be boring by comparison)
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NeonOctopus
11/15/17 9:08:03 AM
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SkittyOnWailord posted...
Is Goku your favorite Dragon Ball character too?

Future Trunks, bitch
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/15/17 9:08:35 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
SkittyOnWailord posted...
Is Goku your favorite Dragon Ball character too?

Future Trunks, bitch


The cringiest of DBZ characters.
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NeonOctopus
11/15/17 9:09:15 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
SkittyOnWailord posted...
Is Goku your favorite Dragon Ball character too?

Future Trunks, bitch


The cringiest of DBZ characters.

Well, I like him when he has the sword.

once he loses it, he becomes a bitch >_>
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snesmaster40
11/15/17 9:10:34 AM
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I actually started to like the show more when they introduced the Super Hero League stuff.
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lilORANG
11/15/17 9:20:06 AM
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I like all the heroes. They give some pretty entertaining action sequences before Saitama comes in a saves the day.

And I think it helps to show just how strong Saitama really is because we see these incredibly powerful dudes doing cool shit, and we know Saitama is infinitely stronger than even them.
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Vicious_Dios
11/15/17 9:32:30 AM
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I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.
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snesmaster40
11/15/17 9:39:18 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


Get out.
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pinky0926
11/15/17 9:40:14 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


It's anime, there always has to be some annoying tsundere chibi loli and the worst part is the fans always cream themselves over it.
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Vicious_Dios
11/15/17 9:40:42 AM
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snesmaster40 posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


Get out.


No, thank you. I'm quite comfortable here.
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Xelltrix
11/15/17 9:41:12 AM
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I was mostly bored with that show until the Frieza clone battle.
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Vicious_Dios
11/15/17 9:46:31 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


It's anime, there always has to be some annoying tsundere chibi loli and the worst part is the fans always cream themselves over it.


I mean, I get why her bitchy attitude might appeal to these dorks, but for fuck's sake move on already. Middle school was ages ago. That's partly the reason I steer clear of anime for the most part. They keep recycling the same grating tropes over and over and over.
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Oshawottownage
11/15/17 9:46:47 AM
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Xelltrix posted...
I was mostly bored with that show until the Frieza clone battle.


Dude was...not much like Freiza really

-Only 1 transformation
-Not a sadist
-Not important to the backstory
-Color scheme is completely different
-Dude actively hoped for powerful enemies
-Is a cyclops like alien. With no tail.
-etc.
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Xelltrix
11/15/17 9:47:28 AM
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I mean he wasn't much like Frieza, but that's what I always hear him referred to as so I just go with it.
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pinky0926
11/15/17 9:47:30 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


It's anime, there always has to be some annoying tsundere chibi loli and the worst part is the fans always cream themselves over it.


I mean, I get why her bitchy attitude might appeal to these dorks, but for fuck's sake move on already. Middle school was ages ago. That's partly the reason I steer clear of anime for the most part. They keep recycling the same grating tropes over and over and over.


To be honest maybe the real issue here is that we're too old to be watching cartoons for teenagers
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Esrac
11/15/17 9:52:31 AM
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As has been said before, Saitama is a gag character in a serious shonen world.
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s0nicfan
11/15/17 10:24:12 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
I hope they kill off that annoying ass S+ Rank chick. She's the Caulifa-tier of awfulness of that series.


It's anime, there always has to be some annoying tsundere chibi loli and the worst part is the fans always cream themselves over it.


I mean, I get why her bitchy attitude might appeal to these dorks, but for fuck's sake move on already. Middle school was ages ago. That's partly the reason I steer clear of anime for the most part. They keep recycling the same grating tropes over and over and over.


At least in OPM her attitude makes her the butt of Saitama's jokes. It's a nice change of pace that said character archtetype isn't bossing the MC around and is instead a "small, lost child" that the MC doesn't give a shit about.
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GiftedACIII
11/15/17 11:18:10 AM
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Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done

Uh no it's pretty on point
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Link HT
11/16/17 9:36:21 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done

Uh no it's pretty on point

Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episodes 7 or 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.
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Touch
11/16/17 9:41:12 AM
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Mumen Rider is best
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Turtlebread
11/16/17 9:42:08 AM
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Link HT posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done

Uh no it's pretty on point

Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episode 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.


nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxZY1kI2RU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlMVOL5mIsQ

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Vegy
11/16/17 9:44:41 AM
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I love it. He coming at the end and saving the day makes it more satisfying. Like in da manga after that tourny
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Link HT
11/16/17 9:48:28 AM
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Turtlebread posted...

Those clips are hilarious but they don't disprove what I said were saitama's motivations. Yeah he's slightly jealous of Genos because of gets tons of attention, specially from women, even though they both started their pro hero careers at the same time but that's pretty much it.

He's not very broken up about it though and doesn't go out of his way to fix that. Hell, the guy defeats the main threat of season 1 completely incognito.
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pinky0926
11/16/17 10:01:03 AM
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Link HT posted...
Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episodes 7 or 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.


Him being depressed and bored does not make up the overall drama of the show. Him trying to do better at scaling up the ranks is the ongoing drama in the show. There was an entire episode of him doing the hero exam - if he doesn't care about stuff like that why did they waste so much screentime on it?

Further, he clearly admires Genos and constantly wonders why it is that he's so cool. Sure, when push comes to shove Saitama sacrifices looking cool for doing something genuinely cool, but...that's kind of the point.

What makes Saitama relatable is his everyday problems and interactions with other people, that's the crux of the show more than his outlandish strength.
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Link HT
11/16/17 10:07:54 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Link HT posted...
Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episodes 7 or 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.


Him being depressed and bored does not make up the overall drama of the show. Him trying to do better at scaling up the ranks is the ongoing drama in the show. There was an entire episode of him doing the hero exam - if he doesn't care about stuff like that why did they waste so much screentime on it?

Further, he clearly admires Genos and constantly wonders why it is that he's so cool. Sure, when push comes to shove Saitama sacrifices looking cool for doing something genuinely cool, but...that's kind of the point.

What makes Saitama relatable is his everyday problems and interactions with other people, that's the crux of the show more than his outlandish strength.

I never said his boredom made the overall drama of the show, just that it's what characterizes him the best, which it does. He doesn't care about scaling up the ranks, we clearly see that over and over when he refuses to take credit for everything he does. He fights monsters and saves people because he enjoys it, he's a hero for fun.

The entire episode of him going pro was because he realized nobody recognized him as a hero to the point where he was getting accused of being a villain because he was bald and looked like a member of a certain gang of criminals. It's not at all his main focus to become famous, he just realized he might as well get paid for being a hero and get some recognition for what he does. Saying his objective is to be famous, cool, and rank up is just completely and utterly wrong, those aren't his motivations at all. He's jealous of Genos' popularity but that's because he just feels like it's completely unfair, which it is.

If you wanted to define the theme of the show it's basically satire of the shonen genre, he's overwhelmingly strong and silly in a super serious world.
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scar the 1
11/16/17 10:08:20 AM
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Sadly One Punch Man turns into a more generic shounen with lots of hero league stuff, then Saitama is just an amusing side story. I liked it more as a gag series, so I'd have loved if they delved deeper into stuff like the bike riding guy etc.
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pinky0926
11/16/17 10:13:26 AM
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Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Link HT posted...
Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episodes 7 or 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.


Him being depressed and bored does not make up the overall drama of the show. Him trying to do better at scaling up the ranks is the ongoing drama in the show. There was an entire episode of him doing the hero exam - if he doesn't care about stuff like that why did they waste so much screentime on it?

Further, he clearly admires Genos and constantly wonders why it is that he's so cool. Sure, when push comes to shove Saitama sacrifices looking cool for doing something genuinely cool, but...that's kind of the point.

What makes Saitama relatable is his everyday problems and interactions with other people, that's the crux of the show more than his outlandish strength.

I never said his boredom made the overall drama of the show, just that it's what characterizes him the best, which it does. He doesn't care about scaling up the ranks, we clearly see that over and over when he refuses to take credit for everything he does. He fights monsters and saves people because he enjoys it, he's a hero for fun.

The entire episode of him going pro was because he realized nobody recognized him as a hero to the point where he was getting accused of being a villain because he was bald and looked like a member of a certain gang of criminals. It's not at all his main focus to become famous, he just realized he might as well get paid for being a hero and get some recognition for what he does. Saying his objective is to be famous, cool, and rank up is just completely and utterly wrong, those aren't his motivations at all. He's jealous of Genos' popularity but that's because he just feels like it's completely unfair, which it is.

If you wanted to define the theme of the show it's basically satire of the shonen genre, he's overwhelmingly strong and silly in a super serious world.


But I didn't say it's his primary objective to be cool. I said that being cool is the challenge he faces and what provides the drama/tension in the plot. It's a given that he will defeat any monster. It's a given that he'll find the experience boring. What is not a given is that he'll ever be seen as anything but mediocre by everyone else, or even if he'll manage to make it into the A class. Ultimately, Saitama's life is pretty ordinary and he faces the same kinds of bullshit that we all do, ridiculous power aside.

That's why the real enemies in the OPM universe are not the entirely unthreatening monsters, but the actually intimidating cool guys who are all around and doing better career-wise than he is.
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GiftedACIII
11/16/17 10:13:56 AM
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Link HT posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I guess they had to invent some dimensions to the show. If Saitama's weakness is that he sucks at being cool, the super hero league is the natural monster-of-the-day dynamic that provides the drama in the show. Rather than defeating monsters (something we know he can do with absolute ease), the actual challenge he faces is to "defeat" cooler heroes and advance the ranks in coolness.

this is like the worst interpretation I've seen of the show yet, well done

Uh no it's pretty on point

Uh no it's absolutely wrong.

Saitama's weakness isn't that he sucks at being cool, it's that he's borderline depressed and bored out of his mind because of his overwhelming strength. He never stops defeating monsters because he very much likes being a hero and he never "defeats heroes to be cooler", he really doesn't care about that at all. If you watch episodes 7 or 9 you'll see he doesn't give a shit about his reputation or advancing his rank.

It's both. The main arc that's been going on throughout the series is his journey in advancing the ranks and gaining recognition though. And I doubt Saitama will ever face an oppenent that would actually challenge him and later in the webcomic he stops caring about that as much as just "teaching" Garou and Tornado their flaws. So the series is absolutely about him gaining the respect of others. The manga's added character suiyu does a good job of doing this too.
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Link HT
11/16/17 10:17:58 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
But I didn't say it's his primary objective to be cool. I said that being cool is the challenge he faces and what provides the drama/tension in the plot. It's a given that he will defeat any monster. It's a given that he'll find the experience boring. What is not a given is that he'll ever be seen as anything but mediocre by everyone else, or even if he'll manage to make it into the A class. Ultimately, Saitama's life is pretty ordinary and he faces the same kinds of bullshit that we all do, ridiculous power aside.

You didn't but the guy I originally quoted did and that's hat prompted me to respond in the first place.

As for the drama of the show being about him ranking up, I disagree, I don't think anyone cares. What provides tension are the fights between other characters and what's interesting about Saitama is how he deals with his strength and what his motivations are. He's a gag character that's taken seriously and has some pretty deep conversations about it with King in the manga, for example.
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GiftedACIII
11/16/17 10:19:40 AM
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Link HT posted...
pinky0926 posted...
But I didn't say it's his primary objective to be cool. I said that being cool is the challenge he faces and what provides the drama/tension in the plot. It's a given that he will defeat any monster. It's a given that he'll find the experience boring. What is not a given is that he'll ever be seen as anything but mediocre by everyone else, or even if he'll manage to make it into the A class. Ultimately, Saitama's life is pretty ordinary and he faces the same kinds of bullshit that we all do, ridiculous power aside.

You didn't but the guy I originally quoted did and that's hat prompted me to respond in the first place.

As for the drama of the show being about him ranking up, I disagree, I don't think anyone cares. What provides tension are the fights between other characters and what's interesting about Saitama is how he deals with his strength and what his motivations are. He's a gag character that's taken seriously and has some pretty deep conversations about it with King in the manga, for example.

He is the first person you quoted.
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Link HT
11/16/17 10:20:36 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...

He is the first person you quoted.

holy shit you're right lol

why is this guy going back on his own word then smh
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pinky0926
11/16/17 10:21:58 AM
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Link HT posted...
GiftedACIII posted...

He is the first person you quoted.

holy shit you're right lol

why is this guy going back on his own word then smh


I'm not going back on my words at all. I'm saying being cool is a challenge for saitama and provides drama in the show and it is a motivation for him to be cooler, but also that being cool is something he is generally above when it counts and his primary motivation is to find a worthy opponent.
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