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ChromaticAngel 11/14/17 10:09:59 AM #51:	Skye Reynolds posted... There is a difference here. When the problem was with the buses, he took the fight to the buses. When the problem was with the government, he took the fight to the government. Now, the problem is with police and people are taking the fight to the flag. Like do you want people to fight the police or something? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890366049] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>There is a difference here. When the problem was with the buses, he took the fight to the buses. When the problem was with the government, he took the fight to the government. Now, the problem is with police and people are taking the fight to the flag.</quote> Like do you want people to fight the police or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/14/17 10:11:36 AM #52:	pinky0926 posted... Kineth posted... I've posted this on here a few times and it usually gets the same meekmouthed response that MLK was referring to. I was thinking how negative people are towards BLM, but also how negative they are towards black NFL players taking the knee. Like...what is the be y appropriate way to protest... Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, instead of imaginary ones, like 'cops are out to kill black people.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890366111] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I've posted this on here a few times and it usually gets the same meekmouthed response that MLK was referring to.</quote> I was thinking how negative people are towards BLM, but also how negative they are towards black NFL players taking the knee. Like...what is the be y appropriate way to protest...</quote> Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, instead of imaginary ones, like 'cops are out to kill black people.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/14/17 10:11:56 AM #53:	MLK was spot on re this tbqh. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890366126] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>MLK was spot on re this tbqh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/14/17 10:12:39 AM #54:	You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler." Where's the line for people who have a strong response for some actions which are good, and a strong response for some actions done by the same groups which are objectively bad? Where's the hashtag for "BLM has some decent goals and also a horrifyingly bad manifesto"? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:890366157] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler." Where's the line for people who have a strong response for some actions which are good, and a strong response for some actions done by the same groups which are objectively bad? Where's the hashtag for "BLM has some decent goals and also a horrifyingly bad manifesto"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 10:17:25 AM #55:	s0nicfan posted... You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler." you do realize that abolitionists used this same tactic before and during the civil war, right --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890366380] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler."</quote> you do realize that abolitionists used this same tactic before and during the civil war, right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/14/17 10:18:55 AM #56:	averagejoel posted... s0nicfan posted... You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler." you do realize that abolitionists used this same tactic before and during the civil war, right And the nazis used the same tactic when they lined up officials and shot any that didn't agree with their plan. One group using a tactic for good does not justify the tactic. Slavery was abolished through more than advocacy campaigns. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:890366457] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You're going to get a meek response when the modern approach to "advocacy" is "you're either 100% with us and every single action we take no matter what, or you're literally hitler."</quote> you do realize that abolitionists used this same tactic before and during the civil war, right</quote> And the nazis used the same tactic when they lined up officials and shot any that didn't agree with their plan. One group using a tactic for good does not justify the tactic. Slavery was abolished through more than advocacy campaigns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/14/17 10:20:09 AM #57:	s0nicfan posted... Slavery was abolished through more than advocacy campaigns. Chiefly, the bloodiest war in American history. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:890366517] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Slavery was abolished through more than advocacy campaigns.</quote> Chiefly, the bloodiest war in American history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 11/14/17 10:20:54 AM #58:	I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:890366559] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/14/17 10:34:52 AM #59:	coolboy11 posted... I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas. MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890367240] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas.</quote> MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/14/17 10:35:33 AM #60:	darkjedilink posted... Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, They already do. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:890367268] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence,</quote> They already do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/14/17 10:35:57 AM #61:	The Admiral posted... MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. And a "thug and a criminal" by you. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:890367294] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals.</quote> And a "thug and a criminal" by you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/14/17 10:36:49 AM #62:	tbh the man who cannot speak for himself would never support the caricatures I put forth --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890367331] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>tbh the man who cannot speak for himself would never support the caricatures I put forth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 10:36:51 AM #63:	The Admiral posted... coolboy11 posted... I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas. MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized. he believed in a universal basic income --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890367333] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas.</quote> MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized.</quote> he believed in a universal basic income</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/14/17 10:37:28 AM #64:	darkjedilink posted... Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, instead of imaginary ones, like 'cops are out to kill black people.' You said your wife divorced you because of Obama and liberals. You're in no position to talk about real problems vs. imaginary ones. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:890367358] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, instead of imaginary ones, like 'cops are out to kill black people.'</quote> You said your wife divorced you because of Obama and liberals. You're in no position to talk about real problems vs. imaginary ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 11/14/17 10:40:58 AM #65:	Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well. How would trumpanzees react if the CIA Assassinated trump? --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:890367532] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well. How would trumpanzees react if the CIA Assassinated trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 11/14/17 10:46:39 AM #66:	josifrees posted... Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well. No one has declared war on "Black People" The president of said country that is in a state of war according to you was black for 8 years This is the problem. BLM and it's sympathizers don't have a point, they have slogans --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:890367838] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well.</quote> No one has declared war on "Black People" The president of said country that is in a state of war according to you was black for 8 years This is the problem. BLM and it's sympathizers don't have a point, they have slogans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/14/17 10:48:49 AM #67:	josifrees posted... Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well. Not even trying, bro. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890367948] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, Black people have taken their country declaring war on them pretty well.</quote> Not even trying, bro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 10:53:22 AM #68:	MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890368182] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 10:54:32 AM #69:	averagejoel posted... a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890368241] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 11/14/17 10:54:54 AM #70:	I think if Martin Luther King were alive today, he would believe all the things I already believe. It's a remarkable coincidence. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:890368258] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>I think if Martin Luther King were alive today, he would believe all the things I already believe. It's a remarkable coincidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 10:56:12 AM #71:	Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate" --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890368321] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk</quote> well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 10:57:29 AM #72:	averagejoel posted... Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate" it's weird because MLK's nonviolence is definitely not something that has been written into him as a process of whitewashing his legacy it is something he was actually committed to --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890368384] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk</quote> well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate"</quote> it's weird because MLK's nonviolence is definitely not something that has been written into him as a process of whitewashing his legacy it is something he was actually committed to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/14/17 10:58:14 AM #73:	Solar_Crimson posted... darkjedilink posted... Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, They already do. Care to link to a single BLM protest outside of a gang stronghold, or public statement demanding gang members turn themselves in for their crimes? Cuz you're full of shit, and you know it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890368420] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence,</quote> They already do.</quote> Care to link to a single BLM protest outside of a gang stronghold, or public statement demanding gang members turn themselves in for their crimes? Cuz you're full of shit, and you know it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 11/14/17 10:59:10 AM #74:	you said black people, bro. --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:890368466] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>you said black people, bro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/14/17 10:59:15 AM #75:	Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk MLK, Malcom X, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, and basically every major civil rights leader of the past few decades endorsed violence. They all supported peaceful protest as a first resort but admitted that sometimes it just doesn't work. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890368472] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk</quote> MLK, Malcom X, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, and basically every major civil rights leader of the past few decades endorsed violence. They all supported peaceful protest as a first resort but admitted that sometimes it just doesn't work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 11:00:28 AM #76:	Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate" it's weird because MLK's nonviolence is definitely not something that has been written into him as a process of whitewashing his legacy it is something he was actually committed to and how'd that turn out for him? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890368534] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> that's a weird thing to bring up in a discussion of mlk</quote> well, I use "liberal" to essentially mean "moderate"</quote> it's weird because MLK's nonviolence is definitely not something that has been written into him as a process of whitewashing his legacy it is something he was actually committed to</quote> and how'd that turn out for him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/14/17 11:03:25 AM #77:	Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... coolboy11 posted... I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas. MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized. he believed in a universal basic income And that means he thought that black people should be given an SAT bonus based on skin color? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890368695] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas.</quote> MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. This whole mindset of "you owe me" and "I shouldn't be asked to work hard until there is 100% equality" is nothing MLK ever would have sanctioned. The kind of freedom and equality he strove for has already been realized.</quote> he believed in a universal basic income</quote> And that means he thought that black people should be given an SAT bonus based on skin color?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 11:04:07 AM #78:	ChromaticAngel posted... MLK, Malcom X, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, and basically every major civil rights leader of the past few decades endorsed violence. They all supported peaceful protest as a first resort but admitted that sometimes it just doesn't work. why is malcolm x on that list? he never espoused any nonviolent ideology you can kind of argue that in the last year of his life MLK began to see violence as a part of the resistance but if so it was still not something he actively advocated for, but rather explained as a natural response to oppression which is itself violent --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890368737] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>MLK, Malcom X, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, and basically every major civil rights leader of the past few decades endorsed violence. They all supported peaceful protest as a first resort but admitted that sometimes it just doesn't work.</quote> why is malcolm x on that list? he never espoused any nonviolent ideology you can kind of argue that in the last year of his life MLK began to see violence as a part of the resistance but if so it was still not something he actively advocated for, but rather explained as a natural response to oppression which is itself violent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 11:05:24 AM #79:	averagejoel posted... and how'd that turn out for him? idk I guess it is kind of an open question at this point any argument you make really doesn't make it less weird to talk about how MLK's legacy has been maligned and then start talking about how violence is an appropriate tactic in the same post within two lines of each other though --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890368797] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>and how'd that turn out for him?</quote> idk I guess it is kind of an open question at this point any argument you make really doesn't make it less weird to talk about how MLK's legacy has been maligned and then start talking about how violence is an appropriate tactic in the same post within two lines of each other though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 11/14/17 11:06:01 AM #80:	boxington posted... you said black people, bro. Again, show me a protest outside of a gang stronghold by black people. Show me NFL players kneeling at the graves of drive-by victims. Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:890368829] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>you said black people, bro.</quote> Again, show me a protest outside of a gang stronghold by black people. Show me NFL players kneeling at the graves of drive-by victims. Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/14/17 11:08:21 AM #81:	darkjedilink posted... Solar_Crimson posted... darkjedilink posted... Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence, They already do. Care to link to a single BLM protest outside of a gang stronghold, or public statement demanding gang members turn themselves in for their crimes? Cuz you're full of shit, and you know it. 1. I didn't name BLM specifically; I said Black people. 2. Not all Black people are part of or even support BLM. 3. https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time and http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2016/05/22/hundreds-join-motorcade-protest-detroit-violence/84760102/ 4. Even BLM has protested gang violence: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/22/black-lives-matter-finally-protests-chicagos-violence/ --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:890368968] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe black people should protest ACTUAL problems, like gang violence,</quote> They already do.</quote> Care to link to a single BLM protest outside of a gang stronghold, or public statement demanding gang members turn themselves in for their crimes? Cuz you're full of shit, and you know it.</quote> 1. I didn't name BLM specifically; I said Black people. 2. Not all Black people are part of or even support BLM. 3. https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time and http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2016/05/22/hundreds-join-motorcade-protest-detroit-violence/84760102/ 4. Even BLM has protested gang violence: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/22/black-lives-matter-finally-protests-chicagos-violence/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/14/17 11:08:47 AM #82:	Balrog0 posted... why is malcolm x on that list? he never espoused any nonviolent ideology you can kind of argue that in the last year of his life MLK began to see violence as a part of the resistance but if so it was still not something he actively advocated for, but rather explained as a natural response to oppression which is itself violent Malcom X never espoused pacifism, but he was always willing to have legitimate nonviolent discussions with people about civil rights assuming they were actually interested in listening. Where as today you have a lot of people who actually aren't interested in discussion at all. They will literally just scream REEEEEEEEEEE if you try to talk to them and are 100% violent. Of course those people aren't leaders but that's also probably why they aren't leaders. You can't lead people without being at least somewhat diplomatic. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890368988] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>why is malcolm x on that list? he never espoused any nonviolent ideology you can kind of argue that in the last year of his life MLK began to see violence as a part of the resistance but if so it was still not something he actively advocated for, but rather explained as a natural response to oppression which is itself violent</quote> Malcom X never espoused pacifism, but he was always willing to have legitimate nonviolent discussions with people about civil rights assuming they were actually interested in listening. Where as today you have a lot of people who actually aren't interested in discussion at all. They will literally just scream REEEEEEEEEEE if you try to talk to them and are 100% violent. Of course those people aren't leaders but that's also probably why they aren't leaders. You can't lead people without being at least somewhat diplomatic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 11:09:59 AM #83:	Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... and how'd that turn out for him? idk I guess it is kind of an open question at this point any argument you make really doesn't make it less weird to talk about how MLK's legacy has been maligned and then start talking about how violence is an appropriate tactic in the same post within two lines of each other though it's not an open question. he got shot in the face --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890369057] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>and how'd that turn out for him?</quote> idk I guess it is kind of an open question at this point any argument you make really doesn't make it less weird to talk about how MLK's legacy has been maligned and then start talking about how violence is an appropriate tactic in the same post within two lines of each other though</quote> it's not an open question. he got shot in the face</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 11/14/17 11:11:51 AM #84:	darkjedilink posted... Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPcZo-f6Fhc http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/espys-nba-stars-say-shoot-to-kill-mentality-has-to-stop-20160714 http://www.espn.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8408360/isiah-thomas-turns-hoops-peace-chicago-gangs https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-bravery-in-the-n-b-a-s-push-against-gun-violence (someone may have to quote this because darkjedi's snowflake ass has me on ignore, lol) --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:890369152] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPcZo-f6Fhc http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/espys-nba-stars-say-shoot-to-kill-mentality-has-to-stop-20160714 http://www.espn.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8408360/isiah-thomas-turns-hoops-peace-chicago-gangs https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-bravery-in-the-n-b-a-s-push-against-gun-violence (someone may have to quote this because darkjedi's snowflake ass has me on ignore, lol)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 11/14/17 11:12:00 AM #85:	darkjedilink posted... boxington posted... you said black people, bro. Again, show me a protest outside of a gang stronghold by black people. Show me NFL players kneeling at the graves of drive-by victims. Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it. pretty much this: Solar_Crimson posted... and this That_Happened posted... --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:890369161] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>you said black people, bro.</quote> Again, show me a protest outside of a gang stronghold by black people. Show me NFL players kneeling at the graves of drive-by victims. Where's the NBA players wearing custom t-shirts denouncing gang violence? You're full of shit, and you know it.</quote> pretty much this: <cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> and this <cite>That_Happened posted...</cite></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 11:15:13 AM #86:	averagejoel posted... it's not an open question. he got shot in the face everyone dies, dummy, the question is how effective his advocacy was obviously you don't think very long-term, large-scale, or strategically for someone who supposedly gives a shit about societal transformation --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890369327] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>it's not an open question. he got shot in the face </quote> everyone dies, dummy, the question is how effective his advocacy was obviously you don't think very long-term, large-scale, or strategically for someone who supposedly gives a shit about societal transformation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 11/14/17 11:15:37 AM #87:	I would say killing your leader, introducing drugs to destabilize families and then starting a crackdown on said drugs to further destabilize things is declaring war so shut the fuck up and educate yourselves jabronis --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:890369345] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>I would say killing your leader, introducing drugs to destabilize families and then starting a crackdown on said drugs to further destabilize things is declaring war so shut the fuck up and educate yourselves jabronis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A Novel Idea 11/14/17 11:22:37 AM #88:	averagejoel posted... MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too Lmao if only the same right wingers ITT spouting he was one of the good ones () knew about his explicit anti capitalist and anti imperialist views <cite>A Novel Idea posted [p:890369755] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> Lmao if only the same right wingers ITT spouting he was one of the good ones () knew about his explicit anti capitalist and anti imperialist views</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/14/17 12:00:34 PM #89:	Balrog0 posted... averagejoel posted... it's not an open question. he got shot in the face everyone dies, dummy, the question is how effective his advocacy was obviously I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:890371737] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>it's not an open question. he got shot in the face </quote> everyone dies, dummy, the question is how effective his advocacy was obviously</quote> I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/14/17 12:04:06 PM #90:	averagejoel posted... I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him seriously, what point are you even trying to make and why are you pretending MLK has anything to do with it? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:890371924] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him</quote> seriously, what point are you even trying to make and why are you pretending MLK has anything to do with it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/14/17 12:05:46 PM #91:	pinky0926 posted... Kineth posted... I've posted this on here a few times and it usually gets the same meekmouthed response that MLK was referring to. I was thinking how negative people are towards BLM, but also how negative they are towards black NFL players taking the knee. Like...what is the appropriate way to protest... There is none when youre racist and hate all that minorities do --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890372035] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I've posted this on here a few times and it usually gets the same meekmouthed response that MLK was referring to.</quote> I was thinking how negative people are towards BLM, but also how negative they are towards black NFL players taking the knee. Like...what is the appropriate way to protest...</quote>There is none when youre racist and hate all that minorities do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 11/14/17 12:08:55 PM #92:	I agree --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m Dokkan FC: 1923172355 <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:890372178] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>I agree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InYourWalls1 11/14/17 12:12:43 PM #93:	averagejoel posted... I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him Nor did things end well for those who proposed more militant advocacy I think it's more meaningful to ask who was more effective for their cause overall --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant <cite>InYourWalls1 posted [p:890372400] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>I said "how'd that turn out for him" the question was not about his advocacy. the question was about him. it was rhetorical - objectively, it did not end well for him</quote> Nor did things end well for those who proposed more militant advocacy I think it's more meaningful to ask who was more effective for their cause overall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/14/17 3:42:12 PM #94:	Rika_Furude posted... the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support Anyway, my point stands. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:890385207] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support</quote> Anyway, my point stands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 11/14/17 3:43:05 PM #95:	One of my favorite quotes --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:890385266] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>One of my favorite quotes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/14/17 3:59:26 PM #96:	A Novel Idea posted... averagejoel posted... MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too Lmao if only the same right wingers ITT spouting he was one of the good ones () knew about his explicit anti capitalist and anti imperialist views That's part of why he was targeted so often. He'd have definitely been targeted my McCarthyism just a few years earlier. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:890386303] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>A Novel Idea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>MLK was more radical than what a lot of people want to believe - and are told to believe the portrayal of him by the education system is very much "baby's first civil rights activist" a lot of liberals have their hearts in... almost the right place, but just have an incorrect and kinda fucked up idea of how progressive change happens peaceful protest is fine and all, but violence is a perfectly valid tactic too</quote> Lmao if only the same right wingers ITT spouting he was one of the good ones () knew about his explicit anti capitalist and anti imperialist views</quote> That's part of why he was targeted so often. He'd have definitely been targeted my McCarthyism just a few years earlier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/14/17 4:50:19 PM #97:	Rika_Furude posted... Rika_Furude posted... the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support Anyway, my point stands. Can you do me a favor and show me someone who is not BLM / SJW that is "seeking equality" first so I know what to look for, or if literally no one anywhere in the world is seeking equality, that's a valid answer as well. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890389372] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support</quote> Anyway, my point stands.</quote> Can you do me a favor and show me someone who is not BLM / SJW that is "seeking equality" first so I know what to look for, or if literally no one anywhere in the world is seeking equality, that's a valid answer as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 11/14/17 4:57:01 PM #98:	I remember the good old days when Sillyknees would just endlessly insult people on here for no apparent reason and then respond with this quote as if the fact that MLK addressed the opposition he faced back in the day means that literally any opposition to anything vaguely masquerading as support for civil rights is evil. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:890389747] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote>I remember the good old days when Sillyknees would just endlessly insult people on here for no apparent reason and then respond with this quote as if the fact that MLK addressed the opposition he faced back in the day means that literally any opposition to anything vaguely masquerading as support for civil rights is evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/14/17 5:00:28 PM #99:	ChromaticAngel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Rika_Furude posted... the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support Anyway, my point stands. Can you do me a favor and show me someone who is not BLM / SJW that is "seeking equality" first so I know what to look for, or if literally no one anywhere in the world is seeking equality, that's a valid answer as well. There was bernie --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:890389956] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> the issue being i dont agree with sjws and blm at all. none of them are seeking equality. show me someone who is seeking equality and justice and you will have shown me someone i agree with and would vocally support </quote> Anyway, my point stands.</quote> Can you do me a favor and show me someone who is not BLM / SJW that is "seeking equality" first so I know what to look for, or if literally no one anywhere in the world is seeking equality, that's a valid answer as well.</quote> There was bernie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 11/14/17 5:26:40 PM #100:	The Admiral posted... coolboy11 posted... I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas. MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals. stfu clown --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:890391611] in The "... [t:75989517]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>coolboy11 posted...</cite> <quote>I die laughing how MLK has been turned into some uber Black moderate only interested in the end of Jim Crow in the South, he was for a complete transformation of American society in nearly all areas.</quote> MLK would be called an Uncle Tom by today's liberals.</quote> stfu clown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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