Current Events > The shitshow about Star Wars Battlefront II really shows how awful gamers are

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Yes, I agree that lootboxes with non-cosmetic items in them are bad.
I know that taking 40 hours to unlock Vader doesn't seem fair.
I get that lowering the credits it takes to buy things was a calculated move by EA seeing how much they can get away with.

Etc. etc.

But come on. The most downvoted comment in reddit history? That's ridiculous. It's just as bad as when EA won worst company instead of something like Bank of America.

I'm not here to defend EA. Game looks fun as hell but it can't be denied they've done some funky shit.
But the gaming community response? Talking about emailing Disney, the BBB, and the FTC? That's worse.
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Nah. Fuck EA.
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Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.
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redditors + neckbeards + millennials = ???
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They're the ones that want to be in this market
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Found the EA shill
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DirtyAim posted...

But come on. The most downvoted comment in reddit history? That's ridiculous.

No it's not. It's like the least nasty thing that they deserve. This is finally gamers of all walks standing up to defend their rights as consumers the way they took a stand against Valve when they introduced paid workshop shit.

They need to do this more often. They need to just fucking tell companies that they're not going to put up with this fucking shit. We live in a world where 20 new games are made every fucking week. Surely you can find one to play that doesn't want you to pay over $700 to unlock every character.
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yeah Emailing your salt to some Indian customer service dude is totally awful
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Lol, of all the things to show how "awful gamers are," this is the issue you choose?
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Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.
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Idk, it's kinda hilarious because all
the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.

How do you know that ??
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.

...yet.

Seriously that doesn't excuse people rolling over and letting companies rip them off.
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Yep shouldn't ever voice your opinion when a company treats you like shit. Glad to see TC thinks we need to keep whatever shitty practices companies want to inflict on us.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.

No but they have a monopoly on Star Wars games.

Most people who are pissed are not merely gamers, but Star Wars fans.
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Samurontai posted...

Idk, it's kinda hilarious because all
the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless

2k18 sold just fine.

Right now people don't mind being milked. But, tbh, I'm not sure how long that well can last.
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lol, taking imaginary internet points away from the PR account of a major corporation is going too far now?
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ChromaticAngel posted...

No it's not. It's like the least nasty thing that they deserve. This is finally gamers of all walks standing up to defend their rights as consumers the way they took a stand against Valve when they introduced paid workshop shit.

They need to do this more often. They need to just fucking tell companies that they're not going to put up with this fucking shit. We live in a world where 20 new games are made every fucking week. Surely you can find one to play that doesn't want you to pay over $700 to unlock every character.

ITP:

They targeted gamers. Gamers. We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did. We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun. We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second. Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded. Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights? These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex. Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us.

Vyrulisse posted...

Soviet_Poland posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.

...yet.

Seriously that doesn't excuse people rolling over and letting companies rip them off.

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DirtyAim posted...

Yes, I agree that lootboxes with non-cosmetic items in them are bad.
I know that taking 40 hours to unlock Vader doesn't seem fair.
I get that lowering the credits it takes to buy things was a calculated move by EA seeing how much they can get away with.

Etc. etc.

But come on.

you sound horrible, just horrible.

Soviet_Poland posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes it's really awful when people get tired of being taken advantage of and treated like cows to be milked.

I mean, it's not like EA has you at gunpoint to buy their game, lmao.

Don't give them anymore ideas

Damn_Underscore posted...

redditors + neckbeards + millennials = ???

Yourself?
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ShinyMuffin posted...

ITP:

yeah no. that's a sad incel turbobeard gamergate rant.

this issue has literally 0 to do with journalism.
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Jabodie posted...

Samurontai posted...

Idk, it's kinda hilarious because all
the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless

2k18 sold just fine.

Right now people don't mind being milked. But, tbh, I'm not sure how long that well can last.

It'll last forever because that's humanity for you

I bet that most of the people who are whining and downvoting and threatening to boycott or whatever are still going to buy the game
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Frolex posted...

lol, taking imaginary internet points away from the PR account of a major corporation is going too far now?

I'm not talking about it being damaging, I'm referring to the fact that it's just bandwagoning bullshit. There are far worse comments on Reddit than EAs attempt at damage control.
It's just pathetic.
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Samurontai posted...

the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless

How so?

I love that BK comment.

Their response was so ridiculous.

"We want you to invest 40-60 hours to unlock an iconic character that you already paid $60+ for. We want to give you a sense of achievement."

Fuck that. A full price game should have zero content locked behind such a huge time wall.

It was a clear bullshit tactic to get you to buy credits to hasten the process if you didn't feel like putting in so much time for one hero.
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Samurontai posted...

Jabodie posted...

Samurontai posted...

Idk, it's kinda hilarious because all
the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless

2k18 sold just fine.

Right now people don't mind being milked. But, tbh, I'm not sure how long that well can last.

It'll last forever because that's humanity for you

I bet that most of the people who are whining and downvoting and threatening to boycott or whatever are still going to buy the game

Just because you're a shill with no backbone doesn't mean the rest of the people speaking out won't stand their ground. Yeah, it'll still sell well, but if they don't sell as much as they hoped that's good enough for me.

NewerMernardi posted...

Samurontai posted...

Jabodie posted...

Samurontai posted...

Idk, it's kinda hilarious because all
the people who are whining are going to look like idiots when the game sells extremely well regardless

2k18 sold just fine.

Right now people don't mind being milked. But, tbh, I'm not sure how long that well can last.

It'll last forever because that's humanity for you

I bet that most of the people who are whining and downvoting and threatening to boycott or whatever are still going to buy the game

Just because you're a shill with no backbone doesn't mean the rest of the people speaking out won't stand their ground. Yeah, it'll still sell well, but if they don't sell as much as they hoped that's good enough for me.

1) Not a shill

2) You're still wrong
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chrono625 posted...

It was a clear bullshit tactic to get you to buy credits to hasten the process if you didn't feel like putting in so much time for one hero.

You cannot buy credits. Lootboxes do not drop credits. Heroes can only be bought with credits.
This is how misinformation spreads.
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If GameFAQs had post voting, this would be the most downvoted post in CE history
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Jabodie posted...

On topic, if it was supposed to be an achievement, why can you just buy it?

Ding ding ding. That's why their response got down voted to hell and back.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

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of course
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They targeted gamers. Gamers. We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did. We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun. We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second. Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded. Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights? These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex. Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us.
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I thought you were gonna talk about the death threats sent to developers and PR. That is an actual example of idiots throwing a tantrum and making everyone look bad.

There's nothing wrong with downvoting their response to the criticism. EA at least has made some adjustments due to it.
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Darmik posted...

I thought you were gonna talk about the death threats sent to developers and PR. That is an actual example of idiots throwing a tantrum and making everyone look bad.

There's nothing wrong with downvoting their response to the criticism. EA at least has made some adjustments due to it.

"adjustments"
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The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.
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we did it reddit
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Taxer posted...

Found the EA shill

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DirtyAim posted...

Yes, I agree that lootboxes with non-cosmetic items in them are bad.

DirtyAim posted...

I know that taking 40 hours to unlock Vader doesn't seem fair.

all saber users basically play the exact same way so who cares imo.
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Jabodie posted...

Lol, of all the things to show how "awful gamers are," this is the issue you choose?

Exactly

Fuck EA
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EA has been garbage for years, and this is only the tip of Mt. Bullshit. Nice shilling, TC.
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I don't even get the numbers. I'm 3 hours into my 10 hour trial, and it costs 15,000 to unlock Luke or Vader, they are the highest priced of the unlocks. I'm sitting on 11,300 credits already, so in 3 hours, i'm nearly close enough to unlock one already. WTF 40 hours?
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I don't even get the numbers. I'm 3 hours into my 10 hour trial, and it costs 15,000 to unlock Luke or Vader, they are the highest priced of the unlocks. I'm sitting on 11,300 credits already, so in 3 hours, i'm nearly close enough to unlock one already. WTF 40 hours?

you've prolly done challenges
and apparently they've adjusted the rates in game, but i've seen conflicting reports on that

it's a case of EA being shit, the game having some wonky mechanics, and people spreading technically correct information while also missing other info

it'll still sell like crazy, it was never gonna win the hardcore crowd but we'll see
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I don't even get the numbers. I'm 3 hours into my 10 hour trial, and it costs 15,000 to unlock Luke or Vader, they are the highest priced of the unlocks. I'm sitting on 11,300 credits already, so in 3 hours, i'm nearly close enough to unlock one already. WTF 40 hours?

they just reduced the price by 75%.

Additionally, keep in mind that the game always gives you more at the beginning than it does towards the end.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

I don't even get the numbers. I'm 3 hours into my 10 hour trial, and it costs 15,000 to unlock Luke or Vader, they are the highest priced of the unlocks. I'm sitting on 11,300 credits already, so in 3 hours, i'm nearly close enough to unlock one already. WTF 40 hours?

they just reduced the price by 75%.

Additionally, keep in mind that the game always gives you more at the beginning than it does towards the end.

I didn't know they dropped the price
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MabusIncarnate posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

I don't even get the numbers. I'm 3 hours into my 10 hour trial, and it costs 15,000 to unlock Luke or Vader, they are the highest priced of the unlocks. I'm sitting on 11,300 credits already, so in 3 hours, i'm nearly close enough to unlock one already. WTF 40 hours?

they just reduced the price by 75%.

Additionally, keep in mind that the game always gives you more at the beginning than it does towards the end.

I didn't know they dropped the price

Did they drop the price before you started playing?

Because 3 hours to 40 hours is a huuuge discrepancy
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