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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:18:20 PM
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I understand the hatred toward DLC, especially when it feels like the original game is incomplete without it.

But these are characters you can unlock just by playing the game.

Jesus fucking christ gamers these days feel so entitled. As if this is the first game to ever make you play and earn things in-game.

"I wanna play WoW but they don't just give you legendary gear immediately after starting wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

"I want the Chicago Typewriter but you have to fuckin beat the game on Hard to unlock it!! WTF I PAID FOR THIS GAME JUST GIVE ME IT"
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Kaname_Madoka
11/13/17 7:18:35 PM
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Ok
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DarthAragorn
11/13/17 7:19:00 PM
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Gr8 b8
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GODTIER
11/13/17 7:19:11 PM
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Millennial topic
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Tryhaptaward
11/13/17 7:19:22 PM
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Is TC a fake vegy alt
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CapnMuffin
11/13/17 7:21:05 PM
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lol
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EverDownward
11/13/17 7:21:08 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...

"I want the Chicago Typewriter but you have to fuckin beat the game on Hard to unlock it!! WTF I PAID FOR THIS GAME JUST GIVE ME IT"

Actually, you just have to beat the gaiden story and then it's unlocked for purchase in the main game.
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:21:22 PM
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The Battlefront 2 board is literally filled with people posting links to cancel their pre-orders. It's almost as funny as people non-ironically tweeting out suicide hotlines after Donald Trump got elected
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ShotgunSilencer
11/13/17 7:21:46 PM
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Playing to advance and unlock stuff is half the fun of games. Having the option to buy them if you prefer is nice too.
Im ok with it.
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Damn_Underscore
11/13/17 7:22:49 PM
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millennials are the worst aren't they
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Offworlder1
11/13/17 7:23:14 PM
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Good for you topic creator, have fun.
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DarthAragorn
11/13/17 7:23:43 PM
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ShotgunSilencer posted...
Playing to advance and unlock stuff is half the fun of games. Having the option to buy them if you prefer is nice too.
Im ok with it.

Well designed games don't need an unlock system to be fun
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:28:04 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
ShotgunSilencer posted...
Playing to advance and unlock stuff is half the fun of games. Having the option to buy them if you prefer is nice too.
Im ok with it.

Well designed games don't need an unlock system to be fun

You're right. Let's start off every RPG by giving the main character max level ultimate weapons so the poor baby doesn't have to grind and earn the best gear in the game
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darkprince45
11/13/17 7:30:37 PM
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I don't think unlocking them is the issue. It's how much. 40 hours for the staple character??? That's not even fun
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CapnMuffin
11/13/17 7:31:53 PM
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Its like every character is Melee Mewtwo. But you cant just put the controller down and leave it running.
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Hexenherz
11/13/17 7:32:18 PM
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Except you're not paying for DLC in the game. You're paying for expedited progression. Your character progression (its level) is literally based on how many cards you have and what their quality level is.
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El Mexicano Texano
11/13/17 7:35:47 PM
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How long does it take to unlock everything for a class on Battlefield games normally?
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CookieMarvin
11/13/17 7:37:13 PM
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Im going to spend my money on this thing to spite other people that dont want to spend money on this thing
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Axiom
11/13/17 7:38:24 PM
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Lol at TC pretending he didn't already have it pre-ordered long before the controversy
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Freddie_Mercury
11/13/17 7:39:31 PM
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we did it reddit
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:40:48 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
I don't think unlocking them is the issue. It's how much. 40 hours for the staple character??? That's not even fun

Am I allowed to compare it to mobile games? Because Star Wars Galaxy Of Heroes is a massive grindfest to unlock characters. Some characters you can't even get without literally buying. And also has a thousand different currencies. And I hear 0 outrage about that.

I understand that mobile games have a different business model, but I feel like the same sentiment applies. You wanna play as Darth Vader, but you literally can't until you accomplish a ton of really hard/time consuming achievements.

Axiom posted...
Lol at TC pretending he didn't already have it pre-ordered long before the controversy

I don't pre-order games. In fact I probably still won't pre-order this one. But I want to now in spite of everyone complaining.
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Tryhaptaward
11/13/17 7:42:26 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
darkprince45 posted...
I don't think unlocking them is the issue. It's how much. 40 hours for the staple character??? That's not even fun

Am I allowed to compare it to mobile games? Because Star Wars Galaxy Of Heroes is a massive grindfest to unlock characters. Some characters you can't even get without literally buying. And also has a thousand different currencies. And I hear 0 outrage about that.

I understand that mobile games have a different business model, but I feel like the same sentiment applies. You wanna play as Darth Vader, but you literally can't until you accomplish a ton of really hard/time consuming achievements.


That's a F2P game, this is a game you have to pay upfront before this fucks you over
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GiftedACIII
11/13/17 7:43:12 PM
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People like you should step on a Lego every day
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Delirious_Beard
11/13/17 7:44:25 PM
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people finna take this bait
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Materus
11/13/17 7:46:18 PM
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"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.
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LJRENEGADE
11/13/17 7:48:09 PM
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Some guy on Reddit figured out that it would take like 40 hours to unlock one hero or something like that. Its clearly designed to incentivize you to just use real money. But its your money, if you wanna buy a game just to spite random people then you do your thing, mate lol
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:48:28 PM
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Materus posted...
"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.

Deathknight or whatever
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Hexenherz
11/13/17 7:48:58 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
How long does it take to unlock everything for a class on Battlefield games normally?

It's an entirely different system, because in Battlefield, you can unlock things from Rank 1 for the guns and classes that you're playing just based on what you're playing. If you're a Medic, you're not going to unlock sniper rifles for doing the Medic challenges. You're going to unlock more guns for your Medic class. If you get kills with your M16, you're going to get unlocks for your M16 (new scopes, grips, etc.).

Battlefield 1 has "loot crates" but realistically they drop at a rather reasonable pace, and ultimately they only contain weapon skins that are usually barely different from what the base weapon model looks like. You do get puzzle pieces randomly that unlock specific unique melee weapons, but the melee weapons have analogs in the base game that you can get without paying cash and with minimal time investment.

In Battlefront 2, regardless of which class you play, you open crates which entirely randomly give you cards used to augment classes. It's entirely possible to get cards for classes you rarely play, which means the main class(es) that you do play remain at the same "class rank".
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rhklce
11/13/17 7:50:35 PM
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Materus posted...
"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.


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MuayThai85
11/13/17 7:51:31 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
Materus posted...
"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.

Deathknight or whatever


Expansion.

Anyone who tries to defend what EA is doing has more than a few screws loose in their heads.
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 7:53:52 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
Materus posted...
"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.

Deathknight or whatever


Expansion.

Anyone who tries to defend what EA is doing has more than a few screws loose in their heads.

My problem is less with people being mad at EA, and more at how mad they're getting

Literally death threats
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southcoast09
11/13/17 7:55:54 PM
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You can get the Chicago typewriter by beating the game on easy, d00d.
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Hexenherz
11/13/17 7:58:30 PM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
Materus posted...
"I wanna play WoW but they just give you 3 classes and the rest are locked behind lootboxes or 40 hour grinds wtf I PAID for this game!!!"

Is a gooder analogy.

Deathknight or whatever


Expansion.

Anyone who tries to defend what EA is doing has more than a few screws loose in their heads.

My problem is less with people being mad at EA, and more at how mad they're getting

Literally death threats

There are always going to be "radicals" in a pitchforked crowd that do dumb shit like that.
Don't generalize all of us who are disheartened by the microtransactions, and don't let extreme statements characterize the nature of the complaints and cheapen them :|
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bloodydeath0
11/13/17 8:00:46 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
You can get the Chicago typewriter by beating the game on easy, d00d.

kill me irl

Hexenherz posted...
There are always going to be "radicals" in a pitchforked crowd that do dumb shit like that.
Don't generalize all of us who are disheartened by the microtransactions, and don't let extreme statements characterize the nature of the complaints and cheapen them :|

Obviously the death threats are an extreme, but people have a mob mentality where when the loudest voices are mad, everyone just gets mad and don't fully know why.

This entire thing is way overblown.
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Hexenherz
11/13/17 8:02:52 PM
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But I don't think it is.
Even if microtransactions weren't a factor, the card-based "progression" system is one of the most convoluted things I've ever seen in a first person shooter.
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bloodydeath0
11/15/17 7:01:44 PM
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they just need to remove the option to buy progression
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