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_____Cait
11/13/17 12:20:15 PM
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A billion percent
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Darkman124
11/13/17 12:26:59 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...

But someone gives it to you after taxes have been paid on it already.


his point is that by paying it to you, your employer deducts it from their revenues when calculating taxable profits
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emblem boy
11/13/17 12:38:42 PM
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I just thought of something about the estate tax. So I'm of the opinion it should be taxed since it's income. Right now though, is it only taxed (after the 5 million cutoff) that year it's inherited? Or does that tax apply every year?
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Balrog0
11/13/17 12:39:12 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
his point is that by paying it to you, your employer deducts it from their revenues when calculating taxable profits


can you deduct gifts to individuals?

I honestly don't know how that works for the giver
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BuzzyTheCat
11/13/17 12:43:32 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
his point is that by paying it to you, your employer deducts it from their revenues when calculating taxable profits


can you deduct gifts to individuals?

I honestly don't know how that works for the giver


No you cant.
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Balrog0
11/13/17 12:46:58 PM
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BuzzyTheCat posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
his point is that by paying it to you, your employer deducts it from their revenues when calculating taxable profits


can you deduct gifts to individuals?

I honestly don't know how that works for the giver


No you cant.


makes sense

just another way our tax code favors the capitalist class tbqh
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Darkman124
11/13/17 1:15:12 PM
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emblem boy posted...
I just thought of something about the estate tax. So I'm of the opinion it should be taxed since it's income. Right now though, is it only taxed (after the 5 million cutoff) that year it's inherited? Or does that tax apply every year?


yes, the year it's inherited

also all assets are treated as having a cost basis of the price at which they were inherited

so if you bought apple stock at $10/share, then died after it reached $1000/share (equivalent), the person who inherits has a cost basis of 1000/share, not $10/share

so if he then sells he can avoid ever paying tax on the stock.
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emblem boy
11/13/17 1:31:14 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
yes, the year it's inherited



For liquid money, every year after that is it then treated as income then?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/13/17 1:36:51 PM
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100%
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Darkman124
11/13/17 1:40:35 PM
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emblem boy posted...

For liquid money, every year after that is it then treated as income then?


not sure what youre asking

if you get a stock that pays a dividend the stock's cost basis is what its worth when you inherit, you pay tax on any over 5.5m, then it is your asset and any dividends paid after inheritance are taxed as any other stock dividend, sale proceeds taxed as any other capital gain
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FL81
11/13/17 1:45:16 PM
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emblem boy
11/13/17 1:59:48 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
emblem boy posted...

For liquid money, every year after that is it then treated as income then?


not sure what youre asking

if you get a stock that pays a dividend the stock's cost basis is what its worth when you inherit, you pay tax on any over 5.5m, then it is your asset and any dividends paid after inheritance are taxed as any other stock dividend, sale proceeds taxed as any other capital gain


Nvm, I was having a brain fart
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/13/17 2:32:12 PM
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BuzzyTheCat posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why are you trying to bleed the poor? Buzzy
Or do you want this tax increase to pay for relevant services or just cut the billionaires another break?


Every man is equal. That should mean every man pays equally.


People who let dumb ideology like this cloud their perspective on how much it would fuck over the country really are a huge threat to the world. Do you want ALL the money to pool up at the top, and along with it all the political power? In what way is that good for 95% of people?

How about this. For every million dollars you make after your first million, you get to keep 25% of it. You make one million this year, you get taxed at the current rate, you keep 600k. You make two million, you get to keep 850k. You make three million, you get to keep 1.1 million. The other 1.9 million goes to paying off our DEBT and guaranteeing I'll get my fucking Social Security when I'm 65.
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thelovefist
11/13/17 4:41:05 PM
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Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
BuzzyTheCat posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why are you trying to bleed the poor? Buzzy
Or do you want this tax increase to pay for relevant services or just cut the billionaires another break?


Every man is equal. That should mean every man pays equally.


People who let dumb ideology like this cloud their perspective on how much it would fuck over the country really are a huge threat to the world. Do you want ALL the money to pool up at the top, and along with it all the political power? In what way is that good for 95% of people?

How about this. For every million dollars you make after your first million, you get to keep 25% of it. You make one million this year, you get taxed at the current rate, you keep 600k. You make two million, you get to keep 850k. You make three million, you get to keep 1.1 million. The other 1.9 million goes to paying off our DEBT and guaranteeing I'll get my fucking Social Security when I'm 65.

ROD pls
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/13/17 5:21:45 PM
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