Poll of the Day > Adolf Hitler 'selfie' waxwork removed from museum for being offensive.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41953468

But isn't belittling his existence exactly what you want to do?

He's being used for a humorous purpose because people don't respect him.

Treating him like Lord Voldemort and saying discussions of him should not be allowed is giving his existence power.
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While I agree with you in principle, normalizing Hitler also runs the risk of making him look less reprehensible. And there are certainly some good reasons why we don't want Hitler to look socially acceptable.

Additionally, it avoids some potentially unpleasant issues surrounding the confusion as to *why* somebody chose to pose with a wax statue of Hitler, since people would choose to read into that as an endorsement of Hitler (and, outside of Thailand, nobody wants him as a mascot) and it could normalize support for Hitler. Granted, there certainly is a balancing act because making him into some great unnameable being at least partly venerates him and makes him look appealing to those susceptible to his ideologies.
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dude dont even look like hitler
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Satirizing Hitler is better than making a bunch of Kim dynasty rules around him... I mean, they tried that once.

What I dont get is why Stalin and Hirohito are off the hook. They both have way more blood on their hands and should be treated equally.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

What I dont get is why Stalin and Hirohito are off the hook. They both have way more blood on their hands and should be treated equally.

The Japanese kinda pushed Tojo under the bus for that one.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

What I dont get is why Stalin and Hirohito are off the hook. They both have way more blood on their hands and should be treated equally.

It's based on affected regions. China and parts of SE Asia still strongly resent the Japanese for their role in WW2. However, despite Japan bringing the US into the war, the west had far less interaction with Japan than Germany and Germany was effectively the ringleader in that whole affair. Germany was also much more systematic when it came to mass murder.
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TigerTycoon posted...

But isn't belittling his existence exactly what you want to do?

Anyone else get the impression that the world we live in is backward? Kneeling is now considered a show of disrespect and mocking a figure that is globally reviled has become offensive. Is it just acknowledging the existence of a thing they don't like that people are upset about?
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

TigerTycoon posted...

But isn't belittling his existence exactly what you want to do?

Anyone else get the impression that the world we live in is backward? Kneeling is now considered a show of disrespect and mocking a figure that is globally reviled has become offensive. Is it just acknowledging the existence of a thing they don't like that people are upset about?

Basically.
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Kneeling is now considered a show of disrespect

Because it's being used as a form of disrespect. Literally throughout history any time you were obliged to stand and you did anything but, that was a sign of disrespect. If everybody was commanded to stand by the side of the road to greet a conqueror, kneeling would put your head on a post as a warning to the next person who might kneel.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

mocking a figure that is globally reviled has become offensive.

The problem with that idea is that at least some people who go there wouldn't be doing it to mock him and a lot of playful mocking can look like a tacit endorsement. It would be giving ammo to racial agitators, professional protestors, and other for-profit disinformation agents. Not to mention it could encourage people to think Hitler wasn't that bad, making his racist views more acceptable.
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Zeus posted...

Because it's being used as a form of disrespect.

No it's not. Stop spouting that nonsense.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Zeus posted...

Because it's being used as a form of disrespect.

No it's not. Stop spouting that nonsense.

Yes, it literally is. Stop spouting that nonsense.
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If hitler was around today all he'd have to do is change is name
barely anyone knows anything about the war itself besides "holocaust holocaust holocaust" and that all germans between 18-30 were "racist"
if you even try to point out some of the parrellels between nazi-sm and the gov't we have today people say you're a nazi conspirator which is why it's illegal to deny the holocaust
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Zeus posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Zeus posted...

Because it's being used as a form of disrespect.

No it's not. Stop spouting that nonsense.

Yes, it literally is. Stop spouting that nonsense.

Nope. Nothing about the kneeling has anything to do with disrespecting the military. Just shut the fuck up with that fox news, Donald trump, racist shit. If a white football player had started the trend, everyone would be embracing it.

So, seriously, stop.
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This is absolutely disrespectful. . .to Hitler. Is that really a problem?
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No matter how bad some parts of history is it's still a part of history. I'm not sure what wrapping people up in cotton wool achieves. People get offended? That doesn't change history.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Zeus posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Zeus posted...

Because it's being used as a form of disrespect.

No it's not. Stop spouting that nonsense.

Yes, it literally is. Stop spouting that nonsense.

Nope. Nothing about the kneeling has anything to do with disrespecting the military. Just shut the fuck up with that fox news, Donald trump, racist shit. If a white football player had started the trend, everyone would be embracing it.

So, seriously, stop.

Oh look, more of your bottom basement trolling. First off, it's ABSOLUTELY a sign of disrespect. That's not even a point of contention, it's a given. Second, the awkward drivel you spouted demonstrates that you have some *very* deep-seated problems when it comes to race, which I hope you seek professional help to address.

You can try to argue whether it's right for them to disrespect the nation to make an unrelated point (spoilers: It's not), but you can't seriously pretend that it's not a sign of disrespect because they're disrespecting it for attention.
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taking a knee is not disrespectful
it just means I'm sitting this one out

it doesn't mean he's actually spitting on the flag or burning it
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Zeus posted...

Oh look, more of your bottom basement trolling. First off, it's ABSOLUTELY a sign of disrespect. That's not even a point of contention, it's a given. Second, the awkward drivel you spouted demonstrates that you have some *very* deep-seated problems when it comes to race, which I hope you seek professional help to address.

You can try to argue whether it's right for them to disrespect the nation to make an unrelated point (spoilers: It's not), but you can't seriously pretend that it's not a sign of disrespect because they're disrespecting it for attention.

Kaepernick started kneeling instead of merely sitting on the bench after taking the advice of a retired Green Beret, who said that taking a knee is how they show respect for fallen comrades.

So no, it's not a sign of disrespect.
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dainkinkaide posted...

Kaepernick started kneeling instead of merely sitting on the bench after taking the advice of a retired Green Beret, who said that taking a knee is how they show respect for fallen comrades.

So no, it's not a sign of disrespect.

Zeus only gets his news from fox and trumps Twitter feed. He doesn't actually know the facts or whole story. He's just another shill for the lies they feed the American populace used to divide us. He is wholefully complacent in his ignorance and bigotry.
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kneeling originally was to show respect btw.
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Zeus posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

What I dont get is why Stalin and Hirohito are off the hook. They both have way more blood on their hands and should be treated equally.

It's based on affected regions. China and parts of SE Asia still strongly resent the Japanese for their role in WW2. However, despite Japan bringing the US into the war, the west had far less interaction with Japan than Germany and Germany was effectively the ringleader in that whole affair. Germany was also much more systematic when it came to mass murder.

Yeah, China and Korea still hate him, I'm sure. Plus Japan wasn't responsible for anywhere near as many deaths and concentration camp imprisonments as hitler.
As for Stalin, his victims were mostly fellow Russians and Russian government has been very hesitant (especially since Putin came to power) to condemn the former soviet government. So he's been rather protected over the years.

dainkinkaide posted...

Zeus posted...

Oh look, more of your bottom basement trolling. First off, it's ABSOLUTELY a sign of disrespect. That's not even a point of contention, it's a given. Second, the awkward drivel you spouted demonstrates that you have some *very* deep-seated problems when it comes to race, which I hope you seek professional help to address.

You can try to argue whether it's right for them to disrespect the nation to make an unrelated point (spoilers: It's not), but you can't seriously pretend that it's not a sign of disrespect because they're disrespecting it for attention.

Kaepernick started kneeling instead of merely sitting on the bench after taking the advice of a retired Green Beret, who said that taking a knee is how they show respect for fallen comrades.

So no, it's not a sign of disrespect.

When you're told to stand for respect, doing literally anything else is a sign of disrespect. "Respecting" the anthem by kneeling is no different than "respecting" the anthem by singing another patriotic song -- granted, even singing a different song would at least have the *appearance* of patriotism, unlike taking the knee.

SunWuKung420 posted...

dainkinkaide posted...

Kaepernick started kneeling instead of merely sitting on the bench after taking the advice of a retired Green Beret, who said that taking a knee is how they show respect for fallen comrades.

So no, it's not a sign of disrespect.

Zeus only gets his news from fox and trumps Twitter feed. He doesn't actually know the facts or whole story. He's just another shill for the lies they feed the American populace used to divide us. He is wholefully complacent in his ignorance and bigotry.

SWK is a gutter-tier troll who accuses anybody who disagrees with his nonsense propaganda -- shit so stupid that even he doesn't believe it -- of watching Fox News and a million other ridiculous things. He also deliberately fucks up his grammar and spelling, such as saying "wholefully" (meaning healthy) instead of "woefully" to give the appearance of borderline illiteracy.
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2017 in a nutshell


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Mead posted...

2017 in a nutshell

ROFL. Zues gonna git mad....
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

2017 in a nutshell

ROFL. Zues gonna git mad....

Because apparently asking that protestors not burn down buildings and attack cars is too much? When a white nationalist rally does less property damage than your rally, your group has a pretty fucking serious problem.
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Lol. Zues takes himself much too seriously.
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Mead posted...

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Oh man the ole reiterating retort.....

Hey zeus....no you!
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Oh man the ole reiterating retort.....

Hey zeus....no you!

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