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teepan95 11/11/17 9:36:48 AM #1:	http://p.dw.com/p/2nRTu At one point, he told Bourmeche to enter an industrial-sized clothes dryer and turned the machine on, asking the recruit "Are you still Muslim?" After Bourmeche reaffirmed his faith, he was forced to enter the machine again, after which he once again confirmed he was a Muslim. He was then sent for another tumble inside the machine that is designed to emit intense heat. After a third spin, Bourmeche said, he feared for his life and renounced his religion. Rekan Hawez, a native of Iraqi Kurdistan, was also ordered to climb into the dryer, although the machine was never turned on. DISGUSTING --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890179982] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>http://p.dw.com/p/2nRTu <quote>At one point, he told Bourmeche to enter an industrial-sized clothes dryer and turned the machine on, asking the recruit "Are you still Muslim?" After Bourmeche reaffirmed his faith, he was forced to enter the machine again, after which he once again confirmed he was a Muslim. He was then sent for another tumble inside the machine that is designed to emit intense heat. After a third spin, Bourmeche said, he feared for his life and renounced his religion. Rekan Hawez, a native of Iraqi Kurdistan, was also ordered to climb into the dryer, although the machine was never turned on.</quote> DISGUSTING</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 9:39:58 AM #2:	I mean that was bad but not even the worst of it. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890180077] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>I mean that was bad but not even the worst of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
salandrews 11/11/17 9:41:09 AM #4:	Coastal_elite posted... the_sadmiral will defend this They get special training to make them tougher clearly --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith <cite>salandrews posted [p:890180116] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote>the_sadmiral will defend this</quote> They get special training to make them tougher clearly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 11/11/17 9:45:19 AM #6:	10 years --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:890180247] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>10 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 9:53:43 AM #7:	leverageblargh posted... Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business? It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890180528] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote>Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ <quote> A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. </quote> I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business?</quote> It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 11/11/17 9:55:55 AM #8:	But people like @HypnoCoosh said this doesnt happen in the military --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:890180605] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>But people like @HypnoCoosh said this doesnt happen in the military</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 9:58:07 AM #9:	Schwarber posted... But people like @HypnoCoosh said this doesnt happen in the military It's definitely not supposed to, which is why people are being punished for it. Bad things happen in a lot of organizations. It's the response of the organization that, in my opinion, should define the character of that organization, not the actions of a very small group of individuals within that organization. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890180687] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Schwarber posted...</cite> <quote>But people like @HypnoCoosh said this doesnt happen in the military</quote> It's definitely not supposed to, which is why people are being punished for it. Bad things happen in a lot of organizations. It's the response of the organization that, in my opinion, should define the character of that organization, not the actions of a very small group of individuals within that organization.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 11/11/17 9:58:15 AM #10:	I mean just look at the circlejerk going on itt with the conservatrolls https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75972232 --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:890180694] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>I mean just look at the circlejerk going on itt with the conservatrolls https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75972232</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 11/11/17 9:58:34 AM #11:	--- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:890180707] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 9:59:39 AM #12:	Schwarber posted... I mean just look at the circlejerk going on itt with the conservatrolls https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75972232 Besides the usual "look at what SJWs will do" non-sense, I think most of the discussion there is rather moderate :\. Don't spend too much time here, though, so I guess I don't know how all those users post in other topics. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890180742] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Schwarber posted...</cite> <quote>I mean just look at the circlejerk going on itt with the conservatrolls https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75972232</quote> Besides the usual "look at what SJWs will do" non-sense, I think most of the discussion there is rather moderate :\. Don't spend too much time here, though, so I guess I don't know how all those users post in other topics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 11:20:48 AM #13:	Hexenherz posted... leverageblargh posted... Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business? It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out. You learn something new every day --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890183871] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote> Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ <quote> A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. </quote> I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business?</quote> It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out.</quote> You learn something new every day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 12:00:45 PM #14:	Yeah :\ when it comes to non-judicial punishment, commanding officers have quite a bit of leeway typically. This is obviously beyond that but... yeah. Up until recently, Navy COs onboard ships could even restrict punished Sailors to a bread and water diet as punishment, but I think Congress is trying to get rid of that practice. I also don't know how often it was even used. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890185500] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Yeah :\ when it comes to non-judicial punishment, commanding officers have quite a bit of leeway typically. This is obviously beyond that but... yeah. Up until recently, Navy COs onboard ships could even restrict punished Sailors to a bread and water diet as punishment, but I think Congress is trying to get rid of that practice. I also don't know how often it was even used.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nostradumbass 11/11/17 12:16:54 PM #15:	Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit <cite>Nostradumbass posted [p:890186164] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 11/11/17 12:23:05 PM #16:	Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:890186417] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nostradumbass 11/11/17 12:23:38 PM #17:	Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho <cite>Nostradumbass posted [p:890186436] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 12:23:43 PM #18:	Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue Do you disagree with him? --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890186439] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> Do you disagree with him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 11/11/17 12:26:53 PM #19:	Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:890186588] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nostradumbass 11/11/17 12:27:44 PM #20:	Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. one of the muslim kids launched himself off a stairwell from the humiliation and abuse. even white recruits were assaulted in the showers by him. dudes living shitstain <cite>Nostradumbass posted [p:890186636] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only.</quote> one of the muslim kids launched himself off a stairwell from the humiliation and abuse. even white recruits were assaulted in the showers by him. dudes living shitstain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 12:27:45 PM #21:	Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal? --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890186637] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit </quote> hands over snickers and tissue </quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only.</quote> Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 11/11/17 12:30:59 PM #22:	Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. one of the muslim kids launched himself off a stairwell from the humiliation and abuse. even white recruits were assaulted in the showers by him. dudes living shitstain Aww shit. This is the last time i post before reading. Sorry, man. I agree 100% that guy is human garbage. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:890186780] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit</quote> hands over snickers and tissue</quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only.</quote> one of the muslim kids launched himself off a stairwell from the humiliation and abuse. even white recruits were assaulted in the showers by him. dudes living shitstain</quote> Aww shit. This is the last time i post before reading. Sorry, man. I agree 100% that guy is human garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 11/11/17 12:32:09 PM #23:	teepan95 posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal? It is, it is. Idk what's up with me today. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:890186841] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit </quote> hands over snickers and tissue </quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho</quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only.</quote> Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal?</quote> It is, it is. Idk what's up with me today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 12:33:04 PM #24:	Sami1000 posted... teepan95 posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Sami1000 posted... Nostradumbass posted... Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit hands over snickers and tissue it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal? It is, it is. Idk what's up with me today. hands over a snickers :p --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890186886] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nostradumbass posted...</cite> <quote> Fuck this piece of shit nazi scumbag marine fuck bag i hope he gets turned the fuck out in prison. bitch ass piece of shit </quote> hands over snickers and tissue </quote> it doesnt anger you that abused soldiers for yeras and caused a man to kill himself? ok you psycho </quote> Wait! He killed himself after that? fuck that asshole then. I didn't even read the article, just what tc quoted. So i assumed he did that one shitty thing only. </quote> Not the soldier in the article, but a different one. One thing though: does that mean you think the incident quoted on the article isn't a big deal?</quote> It is, it is. Idk what's up with me today.</quote> hands over a snickers :p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nostradumbass 11/11/17 12:38:06 PM #25:	lol <cite>Nostradumbass posted [p:890187112] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rhomber 11/11/17 1:05:54 PM #26:	Hexenherz posted... leverageblargh posted... Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business? It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out. Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged. --- "You spilled my egg, I needed that egg!"-Spike Cowboy Bebop <cite>Rhomber posted [p:890188398] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote>Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ <quote> A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. </quote> I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business?</quote> It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out.</quote> Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nostradumbass 11/11/17 1:07:38 PM #27:	Rhomber posted... Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged. ah, that makes sense. <cite>Nostradumbass posted [p:890188476] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rhomber posted...</cite> <quote>Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged.</quote> ah, that makes sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 11/11/17 1:10:50 PM #28:	Wow, what a scumbag. --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:890188623] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Wow, what a scumbag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/11/17 1:18:25 PM #29:	Should be life --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890188967] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Should be life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JxOxNxIxCxS 11/11/17 1:22:18 PM #30:	Murica <cite>JxOxNxIxCxS posted [p:890189156] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Murica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 11/11/17 1:25:30 PM #31:	I was gonna say the punishment is fair... Then read that soldiers killed themselves because of this shitstain. He deserves much worse. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:890189316] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>I was gonna say the punishment is fair... Then read that soldiers killed themselves because of this shitstain. He deserves much worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 1:38:12 PM #32:	Rhomber posted... Hexenherz posted... leverageblargh posted... Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business? It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out. Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged. Ahh I see --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890189928] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rhomber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote> Weird thing in this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/11/09/military-jury-convicts-marine-drill-instructor-who-targeted-muslims/ <quote> A military jury sentenced a former Marine drill instructor to 10 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge from the service Felix also will have his rank reduced to private. </quote> I thought a dishonorable discharge meant you're out, period? What is this rank reducing business? </quote> It's standard operating procedure. Typically officers who are found guilty of misconduct and forced to resign are demoted to the last paygrade in which they honorably served, and enlisted are busted down to the lowest possible paygrade. edit: I should clarify that officers and enlisted can also be reduced in rank by one or two paygrades as a form of non-judicial punishment, but for an officer that typically means the end of their career anyway, and for enlisted, it could also be the end of the career (depending on what their paygrade winds up being and what the high-year tenure limit is for that paygrade). It's not just a punishment that happens when someone is being kicked out.</quote> Just to further clarify his punishment. He's going to get his rank reduced to private, then have to serve 10 years in a military prison, after which he will be dishonorably discharged.</quote> Ahh I see</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/11/17 1:41:39 PM #33:	Admiral doesn't have time to post in a topic like this. He'd rather rant about liberals in apolitical topics. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:890190107] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Admiral doesn't have time to post in a topic like this. He'd rather rant about liberals in apolitical topics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Izual_Reborn 11/11/17 1:43:19 PM #34:	Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre? --- We have no empathy, and we expect none from you. When the terror comes, we will make no excuses. RIP Deno <cite>Izual_Reborn posted [p:890190192] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/11/17 1:47:53 PM #35:	Izual_Reborn posted... Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre? This has literally nothing to do with that. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:890190443] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Izual_Reborn posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre?</quote> This has literally nothing to do with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 1:54:23 PM #36:	Izual_Reborn posted... Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre? Just looked it up. Holy shit. That said: ChainedRedone posted... This has literally nothing to do with that. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890190747] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Izual_Reborn posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre?</quote> Just looked it up. Holy shit. That said: <cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>This has literally nothing to do with that.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unpleasant_milk 11/11/17 2:18:18 PM #38:	Did it fluff up his beard? --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv <cite>unpleasant_milk posted [p:890191900] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>Did it fluff up his beard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 11/11/17 2:23:25 PM #40:	It is like a real life Private Pyle situation. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:890192165] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote>It is like a real life Private Pyle situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 2:24:36 PM #41:	unpleasant_milk posted... ... --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890192235] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>unpleasant_milk posted...</cite> ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 2:31:03 PM #42:	Izual_Reborn posted... Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre? 1. I don't know why you'd even find it relevant to compare an incident from 1968 to something that happened in the last decade. 2. Even if that WERE somehow relevant, we're talking about a blue-on-blue incident in which people who were entrusted with the training of recruits who volunteered their lives completely abused that trust and drove at least one of those recruits to suicide. They are two vastly different incidents from two entirely different time periods. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890192586] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Izual_Reborn posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this a shock considering the My Lai massacre?</quote> 1. I don't know why you'd even find it relevant to compare an incident from 1968 to something that happened in the last decade. 2. Even if that WERE somehow relevant, we're talking about a blue-on-blue incident in which people who were entrusted with the training of recruits who volunteered their lives completely abused that trust and drove at least one of those recruits to suicide. They are two vastly different incidents from two entirely different time periods.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/11/17 2:33:05 PM #43:	leverageblargh posted... Also, I still don't get why he's busted down to any paygrade at all, seems like a silly application of "standard" procedure to me. Yeah his career's basically over but in cases like this, you throw these people out, period. He has no business even being a private. Whole thing's so far beyond his status as a part of the military now. As Rhomber pointed out, he won't be discharged until after he serves his prison sentence. Since he will still technically be a part of the military, he still technically requires a rank, so they give him a low rank. Of course he violated civilian laws, but he also violated military laws and that is what he was charged under. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:890192694] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I still don't get why he's busted down to any paygrade at all, seems like a silly application of "standard" procedure to me. Yeah his career's basically over but in cases like this, you throw these people out, period. He has no business even being a private. Whole thing's so far beyond his status as a part of the military now.</quote> As Rhomber pointed out, he won't be discharged until after he serves his prison sentence. Since he will still technically be a part of the military, he still technically requires a rank, so they give him a low rank. Of course he violated civilian laws, but he also violated military laws and that is what he was charged under.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/11/17 2:33:58 PM #44:	"He wasn't making Marines. He was breaking Marines," prosecutor Lt. Col. John Norman told the eight-member jury earlier this week. Truer-er words have never been spoken. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:890192751] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><quote>"He wasn't making Marines. He was breaking Marines," prosecutor Lt. Col. John Norman told the eight-member jury earlier this week.</quote> Truer-er words have never been spoken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 11/11/17 5:11:24 PM #45:	Prestoff posted... "He wasn't making Marines. He was breaking Marines," prosecutor Lt. Col. John Norman told the eight-member jury earlier this week. Truer-er words have never been spoken. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. <cite>teepan95 posted [p:890200363] in US Marine ... [t:75979436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><quote> "He wasn't making Marines. He was breaking Marines," prosecutor Lt. Col. John Norman told the eight-member jury earlier this week.</quote> Truer-er words have never been spoken.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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