Current Events > British supermarket under fire for featuring Muslim family in Christmas advert.

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DK9292 11/10/17 12:55:35 PM #1:	https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tesco-responds-racist-backlash-shoppers-100057834.html Some people have too much time on their hands. --- "If the heroes run and hide, who'll stay and fight?" ~Saitama <cite>DK9292 posted [p:890131432] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tesco-responds-racist-backlash-shoppers-100057834.html Some people have too much time on their hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/10/17 12:57:23 PM #2:	One user tweeted: I wonder will they have a white family celebrating a Muslim holiday.... political correctness is ruining this country. Tesco have lost my . Today i learned Christmas is a white holiday. I guess I've been illegally enjoying it with my family for several decades :( Also, I bet if they DID have a white family in a, say Ramadan advert, this same twitter user would say "WHAT!? WE DON'T CELEBRATE THAT! They're trying to brainwash us!" --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:890131526] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><quote>One user tweeted: I wonder will they have a white family celebrating a Muslim holiday.... political correctness is ruining this country. Tesco have lost my .</quote> Today i learned Christmas is a white holiday. I guess I've been illegally enjoying it with my family for several decades :( Also, I bet if they DID have a white family in a, say Ramadan advert, this same twitter user would say "WHAT!? WE DON'T CELEBRATE THAT! They're trying to brainwash us!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 11/10/17 12:58:53 PM #3:	White people do celebrate Muslim holidays, theyre generally Turkish or Albanians --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:890131600] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>White people do celebrate Muslim holidays, theyre generally Turkish or Albanians</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/10/17 12:59:53 PM #4:	You'd have to be completely delusional to seriously still believe that christmas hasn't been all but completely secularized. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:890131653] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>You'd have to be completely delusional to seriously still believe that christmas hasn't been all but completely secularized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 11/10/17 1:00:43 PM #5:	I could imagine idiots of all stripes being pissed at that. Not the least notable of which could be Muslim idiots mad about other Muslims being depicted celebrating a Christian holiday. DK9292 posted... Some people have too much time on their hands. Absolutely. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890131705] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>I could imagine idiots of all stripes being pissed at that. Not the least notable of which could be Muslim idiots mad about other Muslims being depicted celebrating a Christian holiday. <cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote>Some people have too much time on their hands.</quote> Absolutely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 11/10/17 1:01:33 PM #6:	TheVipaGTS posted... One user tweeted: I wonder will they have a white family celebrating a Muslim holiday.... political correctness is ruining this country. in Sweden, back in 2013. some politicians went out and said "of course Ramadan is an old Swedish tradition" it was fucking stupid --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:890131753] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>One user tweeted: I wonder will they have a white family celebrating a Muslim holiday.... political correctness is ruining this country. </quote> in Sweden, back in 2013. some politicians went out and said "of course Ramadan is an old Swedish tradition" it was fucking stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:01:34 PM #7:	Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890131755] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:02:57 PM #8:	Funkydog posted... Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes! <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890131822] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it</quote> That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:04:57 PM #9:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Funkydog posted... Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes! Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890131941] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it</quote> That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes!</quote> Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/10/17 1:06:36 PM #10:	That's it. I'm never buying anything from them again. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890132013] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>That's it. I'm never buying anything from them again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:06:53 PM #11:	Funkydog posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Funkydog posted... Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes! Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132030] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it</quote> That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes!</quote> Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa</quote> Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 11/10/17 1:10:19 PM #12:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890132211] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? </quote> Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:10:31 PM #13:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao Plz turn the trolling up a notch. Still hard to catch. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890132222] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao</quote> Plz turn the trolling up a notch. Still hard to catch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/10/17 1:12:16 PM #14:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Funkydog posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Funkydog posted... Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes! Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao is this where the War on Christmas is going this year? From Starbucks cups to "only Christians can celebrate it?" --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:890132319] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Christmas is just a western holiday. Sorry Christians but it is one everyone can celebrate with no religious connection to it</quote> That must be why a ton of Christmas music talks about Christ and Christian themes!</quote> Sure, some does And Christians can still celebrate their religious version. But for many it is just a national holiday about family/coming together. Plus, plenty of Christmas songs are just about snow or Santa</quote> Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? What happened to it just being a western holiday? lmao</quote> is this where the War on Christmas is going this year? From Starbucks cups to "only Christians can celebrate it?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:13:46 PM #15:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept. Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132401] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? </quote> Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept.</quote> Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/10/17 1:15:31 PM #16:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept. Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan? then you're not celebrating Ramadan, you're celebrating DURING Ramadan....Which is basically what this commercial is showing. People celebrating DURING Christmas...so what's the issue? Or i guess we can just say they are celebrating during the "Holidays"....Oh..No we can't because then people will cry about us not using the word Christmas :/ --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:890132502] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? </quote> Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept.</quote> Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan?</quote> then you're not celebrating Ramadan, you're celebrating DURING Ramadan....Which is basically what this commercial is showing. People celebrating DURING Christmas...so what's the issue? Or i guess we can just say they are celebrating during the "Holidays"....Oh..No we can't because then people will cry about us not using the word Christmas :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:16:02 PM #17:	TheVipaGTS posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept. Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan? then you're not celebrating Ramadan, you're celebrating DURING Ramadan....Which is basically what this commercial is showing. People celebrating DURING Christmas...so what's the issue? Or i guess we can just say they are celebrating during the "Holidays"....Oh..No we can't because then people will cry about us not using the word Christmas :/ XD <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132532] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Oh so now you're talking about different versions of Christmas? </quote> Everyone celebrates Christmas in their own way, it's not Christmas is some physical thing or some objective concept.</quote> Oh okay so Ramadan can be celebrated in any way we want? IE we can play Christmas music during Ramadan and not fast at all and still be celebrating Ramadan?</quote> then you're not celebrating Ramadan, you're celebrating DURING Ramadan....Which is basically what this commercial is showing. People celebrating DURING Christmas...so what's the issue? Or i guess we can just say they are celebrating during the "Holidays"....Oh..No we can't because then people will cry about us not using the word Christmas :/</quote> XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:16:49 PM #18:	So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132581] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:17:32 PM #19:	Maybe turn it up one more notch? Just got me? --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890132616] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>Maybe turn it up one more notch? Just got me?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/10/17 1:18:01 PM #20:	Sad --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890132635] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>Sad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:18:38 PM #21:	"FFFFFFF FLUFFY called me out on my ridiculous inconsistencies. Better call FLUFFY a troll!!!!!" - Funkydog 2017 <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132662] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>"FFFFFFF FLUFFY called me out on my ridiculous inconsistencies. Better call FLUFFY a troll!!!!!" - Funkydog 2017</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 11/10/17 1:19:07 PM #22:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it. Ramadan is actually defined in the Quran but celebrate it however you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan#History --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890132680] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it.</quote> Ramadan is actually defined in the Quran but celebrate it however you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan#History</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 11/10/17 1:20:10 PM #23:	Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:890132729] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 11/10/17 1:20:27 PM #24:	Im just curious as to the thought process of that marketing team. How did they REALLY think this would pan out? Lets put two completely conflicting ideologies in the same ad. No way will this go badly. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:890132745] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>Im just curious as to the thought process of that marketing team. How did they REALLY think this would pan out? Lets put two completely conflicting ideologies in the same ad. No way will this go badly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 11/10/17 1:20:39 PM #25:	Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? Some do. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:890132760] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> Some do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:21:38 PM #26:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it. Ramadan is actually defined in the Quran but celebrate it however you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan#History So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132811] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So anyone can celebrate Christmas however they want because it's not actually a thing. But the moment someone celebrates Ramadan by playing Christmas music and not fasting at all, they're not celebrating Ramadan because Ramadan is actually a thing. They're just celebrating during Ramadan. Got it.</quote> Ramadan is actually defined in the Quran but celebrate it however you want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan#History</quote> So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:22:03 PM #27:	I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares? --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890132834] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:22:57 PM #28:	Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? It's more of a tacky thing you get from crackers that people do ironically or for kids I find --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890132875] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> It's more of a tacky thing you get from crackers that people do ironically or for kids I find</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:24:01 PM #29:	Funkydog posted... I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares? So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890132922] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares?</quote> So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 11/10/17 1:25:05 PM #30:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:890132972] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? </quote> Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 11/10/17 1:25:39 PM #31:	Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? FLUFFYGERM posted... So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? The definition of Christmas in church tradition is "the day Christ was born". That's it. The gifts, the decorations, the meals, that was all added later and is no closer to the meaning of the holiday than the Easter Bunny is to Jesus rising from the dead. Comparing it to Ramadan, which has it's own specific rules that MUST be followed, is just plain ignorant or trolling, take your pick. --- "If the heroes run and hide, who'll stay and fight?" ~Saitama <cite>DK9292 posted [p:890132996] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition?</quote> The definition of Christmas in church tradition is "the day Christ was born". That's it. The gifts, the decorations, the meals, that was all added later and is no closer to the meaning of the holiday than the Easter Bunny is to Jesus rising from the dead. Comparing it to Ramadan, which has it's own specific rules that MUST be followed, is just plain ignorant or trolling, take your pick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/10/17 1:25:43 PM #32:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol? Definitions of Christmas (lent, easter, etc) are all Catholic ecclesiastical traditions. The only Holiday with a definition in the bible is the Sabbath which is actually Saturday and not Sunday. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890133001] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol?</quote> Definitions of Christmas (lent, easter, etc) are all Catholic ecclesiastical traditions. The only Holiday with a definition in the bible is the Sabbath which is actually Saturday and not Sunday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:26:10 PM #33:	JE19426 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast. Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890133025] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? </quote> Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast.</quote> Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 11/10/17 1:26:56 PM #34:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas? Absolutely. Christmas is public domain. Do with it as you will. Are you making an pro "cultural appropriation is a real thing" argument? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890133052] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas?</quote> Absolutely. Christmas is public domain. Do with it as you will. Are you making an pro "cultural appropriation is a real thing" argument?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 11/10/17 1:27:08 PM #35:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Funkydog posted... I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares? So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas? No. Thats not how a holiday works. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:890133069] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say anything about Ramadan. Personally, long as you adhered to the behaviour aspect of it then go nuts. Make it a time to remember family and being a good member of society. Many Muslims probably wouldnt like it but whatever. Long as you feel genuinely like you are celebrating it and not just trying to upset people or prove a point then who cares?</quote> So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas?</quote> No. Thats not how a holiday works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:27:12 PM #36:	FLUFFYGERM posted... So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Sure. If you are doing it genuinely and not just to upset Muslims and stick it to athiests. FLUFFYGERM posted... Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas? Sure to the first part, even if weird. Atheism isn't a part of a family holiday, but whatever. Second part is just silly. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890133071] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan?</quote> Sure. If you are doing it genuinely and not just to upset Muslims and stick it to athiests. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone make songs that are an ode to atheism and play them during May and still be celebrating Christmas if they feel like they're celebrating Christmas?</quote> Sure to the first part, even if weird. Atheism isn't a part of a family holiday, but whatever. Second part is just silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 11/10/17 1:27:35 PM #37:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Oh course there are, and the muslims in the ad followed them. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:890133082] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? </quote> Oh course there are, and the muslims in the ad followed them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:27:40 PM #38:	ChromaticAngel posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol? Definitions of Christmas (lent, easter, etc) are all Catholic ecclesiastical traditions. The only Holiday with a definition in the bible is the Sabbath which is actually Saturday and not Sunday. How are those traditions any less legitimate than the Ramadan tradition? They still have defined Christmas for centuries, and Christmas has been about Christianity for as long as Christians lived under the Romans IIRC. It's pretty silly to try to divorce Christmas from its obvious Christian themes and beliefs. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890133086] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So there's no definition for Christmas in church tradition? And I can still celebrate Ramadan by playing Christmas music, not fasting, and drinking alcohol?</quote> Definitions of Christmas (lent, easter, etc) are all Catholic ecclesiastical traditions. The only Holiday with a definition in the bible is the Sabbath which is actually Saturday and not Sunday.</quote> How are those traditions any less legitimate than the Ramadan tradition? They still have defined Christmas for centuries, and Christmas has been about Christianity for as long as Christians lived under the Romans IIRC. It's pretty silly to try to divorce Christmas from its obvious Christian themes and beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:28:21 PM #39:	Deadpool_18 posted... No. Thats not how a holiday works. But according to Funkydog's reply, that's exactly how it works. Apparently to Funkydog, as long as you feel that you're celebrating a holiday you're celebrating it. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890133118] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>No. Thats not how a holiday works. </quote> But according to Funkydog's reply, that's exactly how it works. Apparently to Funkydog, as long as you feel that you're celebrating a holiday you're celebrating it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 11/10/17 1:29:07 PM #41:	byron posted... People need to stop responding to fluffygerm. He's a troll who lives in his mom's basement. Sad. It was fun for a moment but he's just reiterating his ignorance so I'm ballin out. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:890133152] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote>People need to stop responding to fluffygerm. He's a troll who lives in his mom's basement. Sad.</quote> It was fun for a moment but he's just reiterating his ignorance so I'm ballin out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/10/17 1:29:51 PM #43:	FLUFFYGERM posted... JE19426 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast. Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan? There are several aspects. You brought up Ramadan then went on to describe "celebrating" it in a way that include Zero of the behavioral aspects. Christmas has definitely evolved in the western culture as having both a religious and social Holiday...the social being getting together, christmas trees, gifts, traditional dinners with Turkey, etc....Many people celebrate that part of it as opposed to the religious part. I know you're trolling, I've seen you attempt it in many topics...you really need to work on it though. You come off rushed and panicky in a very "OH YEA WELL!..." type of way as opposed to someone who actually believes what he's saying lol..you'll get there one day, man. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:890133180] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? </quote> Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast.</quote> Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan?</quote> There are several aspects. You brought up Ramadan then went on to describe "celebrating" it in a way that include Zero of the behavioral aspects. Christmas has definitely evolved in the western culture as having both a religious and social Holiday...the social being getting together, christmas trees, gifts, traditional dinners with Turkey, etc....Many people celebrate that part of it as opposed to the religious part. I know you're trolling, I've seen you attempt it in many topics...you really need to work on it though. You come off rushed and panicky in a very "OH YEA WELL!..." type of way as opposed to someone who actually believes what he's saying lol..you'll get there one day, man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/10/17 1:30:15 PM #44:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... It was fun for a moment but he's just reiterating his ignorance so I'm ballin out. Same --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890133197] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>It was fun for a moment but he's just reiterating his ignorance so I'm ballin out.</quote> Same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:31:32 PM #45:	TheVipaGTS posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... JE19426 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast. Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan? There are several aspects. You brought up Ramadan then went on to describe "celebrating" it in a way that include Zero of the behavioral aspects. Christmas has definitely evolved in the western culture as having both a religious and social Holiday...the social being getting together, christmas trees, gifts, traditional dinners with Turkey, etc....Many people celebrate that part of it as opposed to the religious part. I know you're trolling, I've seen you attempt it in many topics...you really need to work on it though. You come off rushed and panicky in a very "OH YEA WELL!..." type of way as opposed to someone who actually believes what he's saying lol..you'll get there one day, man. So what's to keep someone from redefining Ramadan? According to Funkydog, as long as we feel we're celebrating it we can be doing whatever we want. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890133268] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>So as long as I feel like I'm celebrating Ramadan, I can not fast and play Christmas music and be an atheist and still be celebrating Ramadan? </quote> Read the post you quoted again. They said you had to adhered to the behaviour aspect, that would require you fast.</quote> Oh okay but there's no behavior or traditional aspects to Christmas? Unless we're talking about a "different version" of Christmas? What about a "different version" of Ramadan?</quote> There are several aspects. You brought up Ramadan then went on to describe "celebrating" it in a way that include Zero of the behavioral aspects. Christmas has definitely evolved in the western culture as having both a religious and social Holiday...the social being getting together, christmas trees, gifts, traditional dinners with Turkey, etc....Many people celebrate that part of it as opposed to the religious part. I know you're trolling, I've seen you attempt it in many topics...you really need to work on it though. You come off rushed and panicky in a very "OH YEA WELL!..." type of way as opposed to someone who actually believes what he's saying lol..you'll get there one day, man.</quote> So what's to keep someone from redefining Ramadan? According to Funkydog, as long as we feel we're celebrating it we can be doing whatever we want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/10/17 1:34:04 PM #46:	It's hilarious how the only thing consistent in all of your posts is the accusations that I'm a troll LOL!!!!!! Shame that isn't the case for your reasoning!! <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890133385] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>It's hilarious how the only thing consistent in all of your posts is the accusations that I'm a troll LOL!!!!!! Shame that isn't the case for your reasoning!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 11/10/17 1:35:47 PM #47:	DK9292 posted... Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? No --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:890133456] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? </quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 11/10/17 1:38:43 PM #48:	Returning_CEmen posted... DK9292 posted... Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? No Damn. Well, a Christmas tradition in Britain is Christmas crackers, which are cardboard tubes that two people pull on until it breaks (with a shock-sensitive chemical making a bang sound, hence "cracker") and whoever gets the larger half of the cracker gets to keep what's inside. Usually it's a cheap toy, a paper crown and a piece of paper with a bad joke on it. --- "If the heroes run and hide, who'll stay and fight?" ~Saitama <cite>DK9292 posted [p:890133619] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? </quote> No</quote> Damn. Well, a Christmas tradition in Britain is Christmas crackers, which are cardboard tubes that two people pull on until it breaks (with a shock-sensitive chemical making a bang sound, hence "cracker") and whoever gets the larger half of the cracker gets to keep what's inside. Usually it's a cheap toy, a paper crown and a piece of paper with a bad joke on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/10/17 1:39:33 PM #49:	DK9292 posted... The definition of Christmas in church tradition is "the day Christ was born". That's it. The gifts, the decorations, the meals, that was all added later and is no closer to the meaning of the holiday than the Easter Bunny is to Jesus rising from the dead. Comparing it to Ramadan, which has it's own specific rules that MUST be followed, is just plain ignorant or trolling, take your pick. Christmas used to have it's own specific rules to follow as well when the Catholic Church pretty much stole it from the pagans. The difference though was that Christianity was allowed to evolve and change with the times thanks to the enlightenment age it went through. Islam has yet to go into such a state, which is why it's still super strict when it comes to their (in my opinion, but also the same opinion a lot of westerner has) outdated practices and beliefs. So yes you're right, Ramadan and Christmas can't be comparable. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:890133678] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote>The definition of Christmas in church tradition is "the day Christ was born". That's it. The gifts, the decorations, the meals, that was all added later and is no closer to the meaning of the holiday than the Easter Bunny is to Jesus rising from the dead. Comparing it to Ramadan, which has it's own specific rules that MUST be followed, is just plain ignorant or trolling, take your pick.</quote> Christmas used to have it's own specific rules to follow as well when the Catholic Church pretty much stole it from the pagans. The difference though was that Christianity was allowed to evolve and change with the times thanks to the enlightenment age it went through. Islam has yet to go into such a state, which is why it's still super strict when it comes to their (in my opinion, but also the same opinion a lot of westerner has) outdated practices and beliefs. So yes you're right, Ramadan and Christmas can't be comparable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/17 1:41:55 PM #50:	how do we know they are actually muslim? they may be christian arabs <cite>Zikten posted [p:890133807] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote>how do we know they are actually muslim? they may be christian arabs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 11/10/17 1:42:41 PM #51:	DK9292 posted... Returning_CEmen posted... DK9292 posted... Returning_CEmen posted... Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns? Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? No Damn. Well, a Christmas tradition in Britain is Christmas crackers, which are cardboard tubes that two people pull on until it breaks (with a shock-sensitive chemical making a bang sound, hence "cracker") and whoever gets the larger half of the cracker gets to keep what's inside. Usually it's a cheap toy, a paper crown and a piece of paper with a bad joke on it. Interesting. Thanks for the info. --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:890133858] in British su... [t:75976536]...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Returning_CEmen posted...</cite> <quote>Do the Brits really celebrate Christmas while wearing paper crowns?</quote> Do you not have Christmas crackers in your country? </quote> No</quote> Damn. Well, a Christmas tradition in Britain is Christmas crackers, which are cardboard tubes that two people pull on until it breaks (with a shock-sensitive chemical making a bang sound, hence "cracker") and whoever gets the larger half of the cracker gets to keep what's inside. Usually it's a cheap toy, a paper crown and a piece of paper with a bad joke on it.</quote> Interesting. Thanks for the info.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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