Current Events > Which of these CE gimmicks is most annoying?

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Ouned posted...

gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Or the GOP's economic policies are just trash.

Didn't pay attention to what spots they won, eh?
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gunplagirl posted...

CE: "transgender women are hot but unworthy of dating. And I'll suddenly say they're not hot if anyone says they're trans because I'm not gay and not appearing gay is the focal point of my masculine identity."
Me: "not cool, CE, that type of viewpoint is harmful and gets us killed by guys like you who are insecure about anyone considering them to be homosexual. PS if they're into transgender women and they're men, they wouldn't be gay."
CE: "I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning, I break my legs, and every afternoon, I break my arms. At night, I lay awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep."

lol, you must really be deluded if you think this is a typical type of conversation you have.
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Gamer99z posted...

WWEPropeganda shouldn't be on this list.

He only ever elevates topics that are already on the path to abject disappointment.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Kineth posted...

I'm still not sure what gets people upset at her.

Cuz she's a radical SJW? It's not hard to figure out.

Give me a more specific explanation than this. 'SJW' as a term means nothing on this board since it is used to describe "what I don't like" in non-specific terms.

averagejoel posted...

because she knows what she's talking about when it comes to social issues, and people hate that

This seems pretty likely, especially since I'm a victim of this type of hate as well.

Funkydog posted...

Nah, it is your over the top hostility that people dislike and make people think you are a gimmick.

Well, this is, at least, an explanation, but it should be noted that having passion isn't a sign of a gimmick. Most gimmick posters here do not come from a position of emotional investment so I think your analysis is faulty.
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Kineth seems to get it.

Oppressors love to punch down and then criticize their victims for being emotionally invested in pointing out the injustices they face. "Look, they're crying" or what have you. Which of course stems from that harmful "men shouldn't show or feel emotions, that's what women do" phenomena. I'm sure I don't need to explain how that's emotionally dwarfed entire generations of men.
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Kineth posted...

Well, this is, at least, an explanation, but it should be noted that having passion isn't a sign of a gimmick. Most gimmick posters here do not come from a position of emotional investment so I think your analysis is faulty.
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I don't think negi is a gimmick myself. I think she is honestly that awful.

And no, passion isn't bad. But negi doesn't show passion. She shows hate to anyone who doesn't align exactly with her and spews her hatred out like air and readily condemns and makes assumptions. She does nothing to sway people's view and clearly has no intention of doing it. She just wants to put others down and deride them.
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FullThrottle topics with words HIGHLIGHED in caps.

Funkydog posted...

gunplagirl posted...

CE: "transgender women are hot but unworthy of dating. And I'll suddenly say they're not hot if anyone says they're trans because I'm not gay and not appearing gay is the focal point of my masculine identity."
Me: "not cool, CE, that type of viewpoint is harmful and gets us killed by guys like you who are insecure about anyone considering them to be homosexual. PS if they're into transgender women and they're men, they wouldn't be gay."
CE: "I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning, I break my legs, and every afternoon, I break my arms. At night, I lay awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep."

lol, you must really be deluded if you think this is a typical type of conversation you have.

It's hyperbole, so nobody's actually had this conversation.
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gunplagirl posted...

It's hyperbole, so nobody's actually had this conversation.

My point was your conversations are rarely that polite. You would need to throw in more scornful statements from your end to be realistic.
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Funkydog posted...

Kineth posted...

Well, this is, at least, an explanation, but it should be noted that having passion isn't a sign of a gimmick. Most gimmick posters here do not come from a position of emotional investment so I think your analysis is faulty.
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I don't think negi is a gimmick myself. I think she is honestly that awful.

And no, passion isn't bad. But negi doesn't show passion. She shows hate to anyone who doesn't align exactly with her and spews her hatred out like air and readily condemns and makes assumptions.

You sure don't understand what hate is then. If a group of people spends their entire life making your life miserable, wanting them to stop isn't hate. Calling out all the evils you'd faced? That's not hate. Know what is hate? The people who had been targeting you for existing.
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gunplagirl posted...

You sure don't understand what hate is then. If a group of people spends their entire life making your life miserable, wanting them to stop isn't hate. Calling out all the evils you'd faced? That's not hate. Know what is hate? The people who had been targeting you for existing.

Pretty sure I understand it, having being subjected to my own fair share of it (or just plain not being stupid)

You still put plenty of your own hate into the world. Does it mean you didn't suffer it yourself from others? No. But your hate is still hate. You can combat oppression in many ways. You just opt to provide more hate in the world than try to fix it or show others you are people worthy of love and respect. All you do is push people away from seeing you like you should be and make people more entrenched in their views.
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Funkydog posted...

gunplagirl posted...

You sure don't understand what hate is then. If a group of people spends their entire life making your life miserable, wanting them to stop isn't hate. Calling out all the evils you'd faced? That's not hate. Know what is hate? The people who had been targeting you for existing.

Pretty sure I understand it, having being subjected to my own fair share of it (or just plain not being stupid)

You still put plenty of your own hate into the world. Does it mean you didn't suffer it yourself from others? No. But your hate is still hate. You can combat oppression in many ways. You just opt to provide more hate in the world than try to fix it or show others you are people worthy of love and respect. All you do is push people away from seeing you like you should be and make people more entrenched in their views.

Tell me how your suffering is at all comparable to somebody else's when the difference in privilege is astoundingly wide?
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For that matter, expecting me as a victim to perform emotional labor for my oppressors and help them improve is bad praxis. Put the onus on the oppressors, not the victims.
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Wweprop is annoying, but definitely not the worst. Id say that honor goes to saspa/guwado/ whatever his other alts are.
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gunplagirl posted...

For that matter, expecting me as a victim to perform emotional labor for my oppressors and help them improve is bad praxis. Put the onus on the oppressors, not the victims.

Who is oppressing you?
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gunplagirl posted...

Tell me how your suffering is at all comparable to somebody else's when the difference in privilege is astoundingly wide?

How does your suffering compare to mine?

Also, comparing suffering is stupid and pointless. It doesn't achieve anything in the end. It is just yet another thing you do that puts more hate in the world.

gunplagirl posted...

For that matter, expecting me as a victim to perform emotional labor for my oppressors and help them improve is bad praxis. Put the onus on the oppressors, not the victims.

You don't need to, if you don't want to. But hating them back and yelling at them won't get them to change. All it will do is validate their feelings and make them feel like the ones being oppressed.
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Asherlee10 posted...

One of the worst gimmick accounts for me.

I don't mind the extreme left or extreme right gimmick posters, they can actually move a topic along. WWE disrupts topics and they die.

I mean, does he actually disrupt productive topics? I've only ever seen him disrupt topics that weren't going anywhere, or ones designed to troll CE with his random WWE quotes.
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Asherlee10 posted...

If it's his own topic, I just won't enter. But each time I saw him post he disrupted the topic and it would stop dead right there. People would comment on his post and the OP not talked about again.

It was annoying.

If it was a productive topic, can see how that would be annoying.
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gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Thinking you're a gimmick and/or an insufferable shit poster does not make someone automatically 'hate trans people'. This post of yours is a great example of why you're leading the poll results. You take identity politics to hysterical and dangerous levels.
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Funkydog posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Tell me how your suffering is at all comparable to somebody else's when the difference in privilege is astoundingly wide?

How does your suffering compare to mine?

Also, comparing suffering is stupid and pointless. It doesn't achieve anything in the end. It is just yet another thing you do that puts more hate in the world.

gunplagirl posted...

For that matter, expecting me as a victim to perform emotional labor for my oppressors and help them improve is bad praxis. Put the onus on the oppressors, not the victims.

You don't need to, if you don't want to. But hating them back and yelling at them won't get them to change. All it will do is validate their feelings and make them feel like the ones being oppressed.

So you opt ignore that there's intersectional disparities, then?

And as for the second part? I can say I'm a woman from here till the cows come home and they'd still never actually give it a fair chance. Debate or being friendly won't change their minds. know what actually validates their opinions? Living in an echo chamber and hearing stuff like "this is why trump won" in regards to trans people doing anything. Like existing or wanting to use the proper bathroom.
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negi is just ridiculously hostile and loves to pick fights, even with people on her side. i dont think it's a gimmick - it's a common kind of person on the internet

thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Thinking you're a gimmick and/or an insufferable shit poster does not make someone automatically 'hate trans people'. This post of yours is a great example of why you're leading the poll results. You take identity politics to hysterical and dangerous levels.

What you call identity politics I call "not being a piece of crap to others on the basis of their gender, sex or creed."

Misgendering others and doubling down when called on it makes you an awful person. Calling you on it doesn't make me an awful person unless you think intentional misgendering is acceptable. And in that case, you forfeit the right to say what's right or wrong.
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gunplagirl cause she makes us reasonable leftists look bad
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gunplagirl posted...

thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Thinking you're a gimmick and/or an insufferable shit poster does not make someone automatically 'hate trans people'. This post of yours is a great example of why you're leading the poll results. You take identity politics to hysterical and dangerous levels.

What you call identity politics I call "not being a piece of crap to others on the basis of their gender, sex or creed."

Misgendering others and doubling down when called on it makes you an awful person. Calling you on it doesn't make me an awful person unless you think intentional misgendering is acceptable. And in that case, you forfeit the right to say what's right or wrong.

Ok you can rant and rave all you like, but again, calling you a gimmick (which you are) does not make someone hate trans people.

Furthermore, using a gender neutral pronoun e.g. them, they etc. is not 'misgendering'.
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How come I'm not on the list?
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negi needs to clam down
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FrenchCrunch posted...

negi is just ridiculously hostile and loves to pick fights, even with people on her side. i dont think it's a gimmick - it's a common kind of person on the internet

Somebody can say they're pro trans but if their views are still oppressive I'll call them on it. Especially the "I support trans people but" types. Because that but always is followed by them qualifying it as being conditional. "But I won't call a trans woman a woman. But I won't date one. But one called me on my BS and suddenly I'm going to be an oppressor or rather, drop the facade of being a supporter as it was conditional support."

If being called out for being oppressive is so shocking or offensive to you, then imagine how it feels to actually be the oppressed with little recourse.
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Firethief and anyone who associates with him.
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thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Thinking you're a gimmick and/or an insufferable shit poster does not make someone automatically 'hate trans people'. This post of yours is a great example of why you're leading the poll results. You take identity politics to hysterical and dangerous levels.

What you call identity politics I call "not being a piece of crap to others on the basis of their gender, sex or creed."

Misgendering others and doubling down when called on it makes you an awful person. Calling you on it doesn't make me an awful person unless you think intentional misgendering is acceptable. And in that case, you forfeit the right to say what's right or wrong.

Ok you can rant and rave all you like, but again, calling you a gimmick (which you are) does not make someone hate trans people.

Furthermore, using a gender neutral pronoun e.g. them, they etc. is not 'misgendering'.

The premise upon which they do DOES mean exactly that.

And when referring to a single trans woman and repeatedly saying "they", yeah it's misgendering. When you know their pronouns, and you use other ones? That's misgendering.
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awesome999 posted...

gunplagirl cause she makes us reasonable leftists look bad

Reasonable leftists meaning centrists?
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gunplagirl posted...

thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

People think I'm a gimmick and honestly that's sad. But hey, most people hate trans people so of course anyone calling them out on it will think "there's no way she can be serious".

What a bubble you must live in to be so willingly naive. As evidenced by the elections the other day, you're heading the way of the dodo.

Thinking you're a gimmick and/or an insufferable shit poster does not make someone automatically 'hate trans people'. This post of yours is a great example of why you're leading the poll results. You take identity politics to hysterical and dangerous levels.

What you call identity politics I call "not being a piece of crap to others on the basis of their gender, sex or creed."

Misgendering others and doubling down when called on it makes you an awful person. Calling you on it doesn't make me an awful person unless you think intentional misgendering is acceptable. And in that case, you forfeit the right to say what's right or wrong.

Ok you can rant and rave all you like, but again, calling you a gimmick (which you are) does not make someone hate trans people.

Furthermore, using a gender neutral pronoun e.g. them, they etc. is not 'misgendering'.

The premise upon which they do DOES mean exactly that.

And when referring to a single trans woman and repeatedly saying "they", yeah it's misgendering. When you know their pronouns, and you use other ones? That's misgendering.

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gunplagirl posted...

Somebody can say they're pro trans but if their views are still oppressive I'll call them on it. Especially the "I support trans people but" types. Because that but always is followed by them qualifying it as being conditional. "But I won't call a trans woman a woman. But I won't date one. But one called me on my BS and suddenly I'm going to be an oppressor or rather, drop the facade of being a supporter as it was conditional support."

If being called out for being oppressive is so shocking or offensive to you, then imagine how it feels to actually be the oppressed with little recourse.

i referred to you as 'dude' once and you absolutely flipped your shit on me despite the fact that ive been properly gendering you for years

like, you went into paragraph long tirades about how much of a fucking piece of shit i am or something and how transphobic i am

im like "chill it's a colloquial" and you went on and on "no i will not chill!" etc etc

so yeah, youre a p angry and needlessly antagonistic person

@Slip-N-Slide posted...

@DifferentialEquation

What?
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Is gunpla negi magician?

You have an agenda so you won't understand this @gunplagirl so I'm wasting my words...

... but I support trans people and their decisions but I won't date them. If they're allowed to do anything they want with their life I'm allowed to do anything with mine, that is true freedom and equality

gunplagirl posted...

awesome999 posted...

gunplagirl cause she makes us reasonable leftists look bad

Reasonable leftists meaning centrists?

Centre left, yes
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gunplagirl posted...

So you opt ignore that there's intersectional disparities, then?

I just don't think telling men or straight people they suffer less than us is productive is all.

And people refusing to call you female are stupid, sure. But doesn't negate the fact you opt for over the top hostility for even minor things. Is the main issue people have with you.
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It really is not a good idea to try and perpetuate this idea of hardship olympics to see who has it the worst.

Especially since on the internet you're not exactly likely to know much about the person on the other side, what their life has been. And WHAT their life has been, is only one part of it, because everyone's mind reacts to things differently, so what could be just really shitty for one, could be utter horrible torture for another, or not that bad for yet another.

I really don't like when misery becomes a dick measuring contest. It's a weirdly...masculine thing to do. Like oh who suffered the most, who's the most oppressed, etc.

Especially strange it's done so much in first world countries. <_<
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Veggeta X posted...

How come I'm not on the list?

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Tmk posted...

It really is not a good idea to try and perpetuate this idea of hardship olympics to see who has it the worst.

Especially since on the internet you're not exactly likely to know much about the person on the other side, what their life has been. And WHAT their life has been, is only one part of it, because everyone's mind reacts to things differently, so what could be just really shitty for one, could be utter horrible torture for another, or not that bad for yet another.

I really don't like when misery becomes a dick measuring contest. It's a weirdly...masculine thing to do. Like oh who suffered the most, who's the most oppressed, etc.

Especially strange it's done so much in first world countries. <_<

transgender people are marginalized in ways that cis people aren't. that is an objective fact.

people of colour are marginalized in ways that white people aren't. that is an objective fact.

gunplagirl is basically saying "transgender people face these issues and you should listen to them", and people are (probably intentionally) misinterpreting that as "I have it worse than you, so you should listen to me"
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averagejoel posted...

transgender people are marginalized in ways that cis people aren't. that is an objective fact.

people of colour are marginalized in ways that white people aren't. that is an objective fact.

gunplagirl is basically saying "transgender people face these issues and you should listen to them", and people are (probably intentionally) misinterpreting that as "I have it worse than you, so you should listen to me"

You should be on the list too.
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averagejoel posted...

gunplagirl is basically saying "transgender people face these issues and you should listen to them", and people are (probably intentionally) misinterpreting that as "I have it worse than you, so you should listen to me"

gunplagirl posted...

Tell me how your suffering is at all comparable to somebody else's when the difference in privilege is astoundingly wide?

This seems suspect to me. >_>
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Tmk posted...

averagejoel posted...

gunplagirl is basically saying "transgender people face these issues and you should listen to them", and people are (probably intentionally) misinterpreting that as "I have it worse than you, so you should listen to me"

gunplagirl posted...

Tell me how your suffering is at all comparable to somebody else's when the difference in privilege is astoundingly wide?

This seems suspect to me. >_>

then... you need to take high school english again
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So questioning the severity of someone else's suffering based off perceived privilege is not turning hardships into a pissing content?
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Tmk posted...

So questioning the severity of someone else's suffering based off perceived privilege is not turning hardships into a pissing content?

that isn't what she's doing
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