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Santorin
11/07/17 11:17:23 AM
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How do you feel about this CE?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/japans-black-widow-to-be-hanged-for-mens-deaths/ar-AAuxbUk?OCID=ansmsnnews11
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EverDownward
11/07/17 11:19:22 AM
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Fucking hanged? Holy shit.
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s0nicfan
11/07/17 11:20:24 AM
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I wonder if it will be a "hollywood" hanging with the knot in the back, or a proper historical hanging with the knot in the front (which kills much quicker)
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smoliske
11/07/17 11:20:48 AM
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US needs to bring back the gallows
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11/07/17 11:22:11 AM
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JE19426
11/07/17 11:22:11 AM
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smoliske posted...
US needs to bring back the gallows


Why?
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Link HT
11/07/17 11:22:41 AM
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Japan still hangs people? That's fucking brutal. Then again, it's not any less humane than lethal injections or electric chairs...
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ThyCorndog
11/07/17 11:31:44 AM
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I didn't know Japan had a death penalty tbh
TIL, I guess
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Villain
11/07/17 11:32:50 AM
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Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.
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EyeWontBeFooled
11/07/17 11:36:09 AM
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Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.
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Link HT
11/07/17 11:37:30 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.

holy shit is this for real? I'd hate to be a defense lawyer

EDIT: according to wikipedia: which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.
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DifferentialEquation
11/07/17 11:38:18 AM
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Glad to see Japan actually has the balls to do what's necessary.
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Funkydog
11/07/17 11:38:44 AM
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Hanging is fucking brutal.

I don't agree with the death penalty, but at least do something more humane.
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Villain
11/07/17 11:38:54 AM
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Yaridovich
11/07/17 11:39:44 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I wonder if it will be a "hollywood" hanging with the knot in the back, or a proper historical hanging with the knot in the front (which kills much quicker)


I thought the quick way was on the side, cuz it severed the spine with the sudden drop
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 11:40:40 AM
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Ogenki desuka? Watashi to kekkonshite imasuka?
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EyeWontBeFooled
11/07/17 11:40:42 AM
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Link HT posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.

holy shit is this for real? I'd hate to be a defense lawyer

EDIT: according to wikipedia: which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.


Many defense attorneys will go entire careers with only a handful of non guilty verdicts.

The entire Ace Attorney series is a parody of the entire system. It's why Phoenix's actions are confusing to Westerners, but to the Japanese, his ability to get his clients out of jail is almost superheroic.

Edit: Just saw the last edit, lol. Still, Japanese courts must be a kangaroo court often.
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SavenForever
11/07/17 11:41:09 AM
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I shouldn't be shocked this is still a thing considering this was the same country that finally outlawed CP entirely about 3 or 4 years ago, but I'm still shocked.
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s0nicfan
11/07/17 11:41:20 AM
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Yaridovich posted...
s0nicfan posted...
I wonder if it will be a "hollywood" hanging with the knot in the back, or a proper historical hanging with the knot in the front (which kills much quicker)


I thought the quick way was on the side, cuz it severed the spine with the sudden drop


Side or front. The goal is to have the rope "snap" at the spine to knock out a vertebrae and kill you instantly. Only those back hollywood hangings result in death by asphyxiation.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/07/17 11:43:00 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I wonder if it will be a "hollywood" hanging with the knot in the back, or a proper historical hanging with the knot in the front (which kills much quicker)


Knot to the side and weighted down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4wDgvtkqsQ

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Link HT
11/07/17 11:45:04 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Hanging is fucking brutal.

I don't agree with the death penalty, but at least do something more humane.

Not really, if done correctly your spine will snap and you'll die instantly. It's more humane than lethal injections and electric chairs. The guillotine is also quick and painless like hanging, they're just more visually brutal.
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fire810
11/07/17 11:47:18 AM
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A one-time millionairess dubbed the "Black Widow," who tricked elderly lovers into drinking cyanide and then pocketed millions in insurance payouts and inheritance, was sentenced to death in Japan on Tuesday.

that reads like an old victorian novel
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 11:47:47 AM
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Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. They should make it more humane, perhaps in a isolated apartment as she watches her favorite soap opera, enjoying her final meal. A red glass of wine to keep her relaxed. Before the end credits, somebody creeps up from behind and shoots her in the head
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Funkydog
11/07/17 11:48:36 AM
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Link HT posted...
Funkydog posted...
Hanging is fucking brutal.

I don't agree with the death penalty, but at least do something more humane.

Not really, if done correctly your spine will snap and you'll die instantly. It's more humane than lethal injections and electric chairs. The guillotine is also quick and painless like hanging, they're just more visually brutal.

Huh. I always imagined it is a rather horrific way to go, but I admit I know very little at all.
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EyeWontBeFooled
11/07/17 11:49:04 AM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. They should make it more humane, perhaps in a isolated apartment as she watches her favorite soap opera, enjoying her final meal. A red glass of wine to keep her relaxed.

Yeah, executions are not for the public's entertainment.
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DifferentialEquation
11/07/17 11:49:15 AM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 11:52:56 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. They should make it more humane, perhaps in a isolated apartment as she watches her favorite soap opera, enjoying her final meal. A red glass of wine to keep her relaxed.

Yeah, executions are not for the public's entertainment.


Japan has a shame culture so it will be in display for those who are interested
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 11:56:59 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice
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Letron_James
11/07/17 12:00:28 PM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


Nah shes a murdering bitch
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DifferentialEquation
11/07/17 12:01:03 PM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


What does her being an old woman have to do with any of it? She is an evil piece of shit who meticulously planned and executed the murders of multiple innocent people.
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Grindcorp9000
11/07/17 12:06:01 PM
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You're acting like they are sawing her in half.
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 12:10:16 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


What does her being an old woman have to do with any of it? She is an evil piece of shit who meticulously planned and executed the murders of multiple innocent people.


If you truly thought murder was wrong, you wouldn't be advocating it in the same sentence
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DifferentialEquation
11/07/17 12:21:24 PM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


What does her being an old woman have to do with any of it? She is an evil piece of shit who meticulously planned and executed the murders of multiple innocent people.


If you truly thought murder was wrong, you wouldn't be advocating it in the same sentence


I think killing innocent people is wrong. I think killing people who have killed innocent people is not wrong.
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Holy_Cloud105
11/07/17 12:40:54 PM
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Link HT posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.

holy shit is this for real? I'd hate to be a defense lawyer

EDIT: according to wikipedia: which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Japan has a lot of false confessions as well. Obviously guilty isn't always the case when they make innocent people confess to a crime they didn't do.
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ScottSweatshirt
11/07/17 3:18:06 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


What does her being an old woman have to do with any of it? She is an evil piece of shit who meticulously planned and executed the murders of multiple innocent people.


If you truly thought murder was wrong, you wouldn't be advocating it in the same sentence


I think killing innocent people is wrong. I think killing people who have killed innocent people is not wrong.


lol you think. When matters of life and death are involved, you're personal beliefs shouldn't take priority don't you think. Some arbitrary qualifier like innocent in this case is purely subjective relative to the degree of punishment
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smoliske
11/07/17 3:19:32 PM
#38:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. They should make it more humane, perhaps in a isolated apartment as she watches her favorite soap opera, enjoying her final meal. A red glass of wine to keep her relaxed.

Yeah, executions are not for the public's entertainment.


They are publicized as a warning to would be offenders.
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HanzoMain
11/07/17 3:26:14 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
I didn't know Japan had a death penalty tbh
TIL, I guess

Yeah, same here.
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Were_Wyrm
11/07/17 3:36:39 PM
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She had earlier told judges she was ready to be hanged.

"Even if I were executed tomorrow, I would die smiling," Kakehi told judges.

After Tuesday's ruling, her lawyers immediately appealed to a higher court, suggesting the high-profile trial could yet drag on.


Not denying she did it, not fighting the death penalty, and yet her lawyers drag it on. This is why the death penalty is so expensive.
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Seneca_Wallace_
11/07/17 3:39:11 PM
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ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
ScottSweatshirt posted...
Gonna be a sad sight to see some 70 yr old woman being hanged in public though. T


She's a murderer. Why would it be a sad sight?


She's an old woman, her death isn't a victory or a cause of celebration. Punishment extends beyond ceasing the life of another to satisfy ones own warped sense of justice


What does her being an old woman have to do with any of it? She is an evil piece of shit who meticulously planned and executed the murders of multiple innocent people.


If you truly thought murder was wrong, you wouldn't be advocating it in the same sentence


Oh shut up you condescending self-righteous piece of shit
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Seneca_Wallace_
11/07/17 3:40:25 PM
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I will also never apologize for believing that murderers shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the thing that they took away from someone else: life.
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ForestLogic
11/07/17 3:41:11 PM
#43:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.


I mean, I agree with you, but I feel like it's probably an aftereffect of the nation as a whole having an insanely low crime rate, violent crimes especially, across the board. So people that do actually commit a crime get caught pretty easily I assume?

Just speculating. Don't know that for a fact.
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Returning_CEmen
11/07/17 3:41:34 PM
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Death by Gundam
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/07/17 3:44:01 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Villain posted...
Japan is pretty backwards in their justice system.

A 99+% guilty conviction rate once a criminal case goes to court is pretty medieval.


I mean, I agree with you, but I feel like it's probably an aftereffect of the nation as a whole having an insanely low crime rate, violent crimes especially, across the board. So people that do actually commit a crime get caught pretty easily I assume?

Just speculating. Don't know that for a fact.


is their incarceration rate higher than that of the US, though? I'm pretty sure the US is the world champ of cages in modern society.
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Returning_CEmen
11/07/17 3:44:20 PM
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Aren't they a member of the UN, and doesn't the UN have a whole Human Rights thing.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/07/17 3:46:12 PM
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She should get the death penalty
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TrumpTrain
11/07/17 3:47:09 PM
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Fuck the noose, give her the firing squad!
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FaytlessHearts
11/07/17 3:47:34 PM
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smoliske posted...
US needs to bring back the gallows

Hell yeah.
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kingdrake2
11/07/17 3:50:31 PM
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i wish i didn't watch that video :(.
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