Current Events > "I wanted to see Black Panther, but I just can't relate to him"

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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I can't relate to a billionaire prince/king with superpowers, super tech, super materials, and a massive cultural gap . . . but I still plan on seeing because I don't need to relate to heroes, they should be inspirational, not relatable.

That's the point though. TC is not saying you have to relate to him, but there will be people who watch the other Marvel movies but will say they're not seeing this one because they can't relate to the character as if he's somehow more unrelatable than any of the others for any reason other than his race.
When people say the topic title they're effectively saying "I'm not going to watch it because he's black."
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50Blessings posted...

Makeveli_lives posted...

The disconnect they're feeling for this 1 movie is what we've felt for 20+

Nobody forced you to go to those 20+ movies.

If you really hated white people being super heroes so much, maybe you should just not have seen those movies?

This ain't about the white heroes. This is about panther and people complaining about the one black hero because he's black.
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SSJGrimReaper posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Who said that? lol

This happens alot when a video game has a black main character

A big reason why people don't go see movies with black casts
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And the biggest thing is that like, Black Panther is still going to be a success. It's still going to do gangbusters and there are going to barely be any of these so called racists who refuse to see it

Yet we're still going to present this small group of people as being anything worth discussing.

So yeah, some people are not going to see Black Panther cause they are racist. Who cares? So what? Everyone else will see it and probably enjoy it.
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50Blessings posted...

So yeah, some people are not going to see Black Panther cause they are racist. Who cares? So what? Everyone else will see it and probably enjoy it.

This.

Why the fuck should anyone care if some people don't go to see Black Panther?
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pauIie posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Who said that? lol

This happens alot when a video game has a black main character

A big reason why people don't go see movies with black casts

like the wire on HBO. Great show, great reviews, brought up all the time in greatest of all time conversations but rating were shit because there were too many black people in it.

50Blessings posted...

I mean, how the fuck am I supposed to take that?

Acknowledging that he's black and being treated differently because he's black doesn't mean I hate white people. Saying BLM doesn't mean I hate white people. Saying #metoo doesn't mean women hate men. I can shit on Trump and his cabinet without wanting the country to fail. I can take a knee during the pledge without meaning disrespect to troops because it ain't about them.

Not an everything is an attack on you or your beliefs or fragile ego. Stop being so goddamn sensitive.
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SSJGrimReaper posted...

I'm gonna see it with @_PandaMaster_

But what if he starts talking to himself during the movie?

Xelltrix posted...

People definitely use excuses like that, but I haven't heard anyone say that on here about panther yet.

This. Hell the reason this is hyped is because many people found him to be the best part of Civil War.
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anyone that complains about relating to a fucking fictional character or w/e is a joke person...same with complaining about representation. don't like it, don't see it, no reason to whine like a bitch about it
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NewerMernardi posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

I'm gonna see it with @_PandaMaster_

But what if he starts talking to himself during the movie?

Lmao. He spammed black panther topics on his alt for awhile like "Am I racist if I don't want to see Black Panther"

Axiom posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

I'm gonna see it with @_PandaMaster_

But what if he starts talking to himself during the movie?

Lmao. He spammed black panther topics on his alt for awhile like "Am I racist if I don't want to see Black Panther"

Lmao that's funny.

Also, I love how offended some people got from this topic. Don't worry, there's going to be trolling from all sides in February.

You know someone is going to be like, "If you didn't love Black Panther, you're racist" and it'll lead to a big argument.

I'm just getting my popcorn ready.

NewerMernardi posted...

Villain posted...

He seems lame as a superhero as a whole.

He was pretty great in Civil War

If you say so

I thought he was generic and boring as hell
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Maze_ posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

Villain posted...

He seems lame as a superhero as a whole.

He was pretty great in Civil War

If you say so

I thought he was generic and boring as hell

First time I have ever heard that.
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NewerMernardi posted...

I can't wait until February to start seeing this subtle racist comment start popping up in droves.

Why would that even be a thought of yours? Sounds like one of those I have racist thoughts but will turn it on other people to make them look bad type of things.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

I can't wait until February to start seeing this subtle racist comment start popping up in droves.

Why would that even be a thought of yours? Sounds like one of those I have racist thoughts but will turn it on other people to make them look bad type of things.

Uh no.

It's just going to be funny because there's going to be a lot of people saying stupid shit that will inevitably make me laugh.

Preemptively accusing people of being racist for not going to see a movie that hasn't come out yet is so Februrary 2017. Maybe March 2017 at best. Now it' sall Preemptively accusing people of accusing other people are racist for not going to see a movie that hasn't come out yet.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Preemptively accusing people of being racist for not going to see a movie that hasn't come out yet is so Februrary 2017. Maybe March 2017 at best. Now it' sall Preemptively accusing people of accusing other people are racist for not going to see a movie that hasn't come out yet.

Dude are you ok? You sound just a tad upset.

NewerMernardi posted...

I can't wait until February to start seeing this subtle racist comment start popping up in droves.

that is a racist comment?

so if a black man says he can't relate to white spider man he is being racist?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

I can't wait until February to start seeing this subtle racist comment start popping up in droves.

that is a racist comment?

so if a black man says he can't relate to white spider man he is being racist?

It's a little different when there's literally only one black superhero with their own movie in the MCU.

Im concerned by what looks like an overuse of CGI for a character that is more grounded like Captain America. Seems unecessary, and takes away from the action.
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NewerMernardi posted...

It's a little different when there's literally only one black superhero with their own movie in the MCU.

so because this is the only movie starring a black superhero the white guy has to relate to him?

but the black guy can opt out of relating to the white characters because there is more movies?

that seems like very strange logic

so when they make more MCU movies with black leads (luke cage plz), is it no longer racist to not identify with black panther?
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Acknowledging that he's black and being treated differently because he's black doesn't mean I hate white people. Saying BLM doesn't mean I hate white people. Saying #metoo doesn't mean women hate men. I can s*** on Trump and his cabinet without wanting the country to fail. I can take a knee during the pledge without meaning disrespect to troops because it ain't about them.

Except that you're clearly being a hypocrite here. You can't say that it's not okay for someone to feel a disconnect when you flat out admit that you've felt a disconnect for over 20 movies now and act like that is perfectly fine simply because you're black.

Not an everything is an attack on you or your beliefs or fragile ego. Stop being so goddamn sensitive.

You're literally getting upset over some nobodies not wanting to watch a movie just because it is about a black super hero. And you're saying I'm the one who is sensitive?

Check yourself, dude. And stop letting stupid shit bother you.
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Imagine being so sensitive that you create scenarios in your head that are racist and then get mad at them and post about it on the internet.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

It's a little different when there's literally only one black superhero with their own movie in the MCU.

so because this is the only movie starring a black superhero the white guy has to relate to him?

but the black guy can opt out of relating to the white characters because there is more movies?

that seems like very strange logic

so when they make more MCU movies with black leads (luke cage plz), is it no longer racist to not identify with black panther?

The point is there are literally people saying they can't relate to BP, but a billionaire (Iron Man) a king (Thor), a super genius (Banner) and a Super Soldier (Captain America) are? When BP has all those abilities/traits rolled into one?

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that.

NewerMernardi posted...

The point is there are literally people saying they can't relate to BP, but a billionaire (Iron Man) a king (Thor), a super genius (Banner) and a Super Soldier (Captain America) are? When BP has all those abilities/traits rolled into one?

Yeah, I'm calling bulls*** on that.

Maybe they can't relate because of all the African symbolism and iconography more so than simply because he is black?

I mean, that's assuming all of this is as widespread as you claim. Even then, I still don't see why it matters why someone doesn't want to watch the movie.
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Kirby posted...

Imagine being so sensitive that you create scenarios in your head that are racist and then get mad at them and post about it on the internet.

Same exact shit happened during Star Wars. I don't understand who you guys are trying to fool here. You're not new to CE. You've all seen the topics. You know exactly how this place gets in February. Shit happens every year but this is the one you believe is gonna be different?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kirby posted...

Imagine being so sensitive that you create scenarios in your head that are racist and then get mad at them and post about it on the internet.

Same exact shit happened during Star Wars. I don't understand who you guys are trying to fool here. You're not new to CE. You've all seen the topics. You know exactly how this place gets in February. Shit happens every year but this is the one you believe is gonna be different?

I mean it already happened in the first place months ago on CE and people already talked about then how it was going to get worse the closer it got to release

NewerMernardi posted...

The point is there are literally people saying they can't relate to BP, but a billionaire (Iron Man) a king (Thor), a super genius (Banner) and a Super Soldier (Captain America) are? When BP has all those abilities/traits rolled into one?

Yeah, I'm calling bulls*** on that.

so people literally said

"Iron man is so relatable" ?

altho tbh, when you take away the billionaire super genius part, the rest of his character is basically many people

drunken party animal who can't go a few sentences without throwing a sarcastic quip who have deep rooted emotion issues
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That doesn't sound like something actual people say, TC.

Are you sure you didn't make it up wholecloth?

darkphoenix181 posted...

so people literally said

"Iron man is so relatable" ?

The point that you're glossing over is that people don't specifically bring up a characters relatability unless that character is black. Why are you pretending like you're new to CE?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

The point that you're glossing over is that people don't specifically bring up a characters relatability unless that character is black.

wrong

it has been well established for years on here that you can find a plethora of minorities who said they didn't relate to white characters
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50Blessings posted...

Check yourself, dude. And stop letting stupid shit bother you.

I'm not bothered. I'm saying not relating to the only black hero is bullshit, when not relating to any of the white heroes was never a problem. It's proof that they don't care about black people seeing as they can suspend disbelief for 20+ non relatable heroes but can't for the only black hero.

Yet no one will admit that freely because they're feeling like it's a racist thing to say.
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This is such a stupid fucking topic.

People need to stop acting as if these characters don't have any traits besides "billionaire", "super soldier", "genius" and "god".

They have plenty of traits that people could relate to without being literal super heroes. That was like the whole thing with Marvel Comics. If you can't understand this you're dense.

That's not to say that it isn't also stupid to say you don't relate to Black Panther based on these trailers alone, but it's still a conclusion people can come to since so far all we've gotten from Black Panther is that he is an honorable black king.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

This is such a stupid fucking topic.

People need to stop acting as if these characters don't have any traits besides "billionaire", "super soldier", "genius" and "god".

They have plenty of traits that people could relate to without being literal super heroes. That was like the whole thing with Marvel Comics. If you can't understand this you're dense.

That's not to say that it isn't also stupid to say you don't relate to Black Panther based on these trailers alone, but it's still a conclusion people can come to since so far all we've gotten from Black Panther is that he is an honorable black king.

You're trying to give the benefit of the doubt to a place that 43% of the users said they didn't like black people lmao

NewerMernardi posted...

The point is there are literally people saying they can't relate to BP, but a billionaire (Iron Man) a king (Thor), a super genius (Banner) and a Super Soldier (Captain America) are? When BP has all those abilities/traits rolled into one?

people relate to Tony's parents being distant and the feeling of never being good enough to them. People relate to Banner being the 'nerdy outsider' and the feeling of losing yourself to anger(you probably relate given how hate filled you have to be to make this topic). Cap literally was the scrawny nerd who couldn't cut it to serve in the war so he got an injection to do it. as well as the entire bit about Bucky and trying to help your friends over anything else. Thor has all of his family drama and Thors desire to simply escape it and be himself until duty ultimately forces him back. Not to mention, what kid didn't imagine being Zeus, Hercules, Thor and the other awesome gods of Greek and Norse mythology. Just like people don't relate to spiderman because they can crawl on a wall and are a genius with an infinite supply of one liners. They relate to the 'loser' kid in high school who loses the things he values most. You don't relate to the final product, you relate to the journey. It's why the great comic book characters are the ones with human emotions, human values, and overcome human obstacles.

They aren't relating to them because of any of the shit that you listed. and black people aren't going to relate to black panther because they're so simple minded and go, "omg he's the same color as me!" we're the same! but please, keep projecting on your phantom boogieman and avoid answering the question, because the answer is you're a racist.
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I mean, I can't relate to Black Panther at all (at least based off of Civil War + the trailers, I really don't know much else about him) but it has nothing to do with skin color, and it's not gonna stop me from seeing the movie.
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so try this Menardi

take away the vibranium suit
take away being lineage to the panthers and king of wakanda
take away being a super genius and super athletic

what is left for people to relate to black panther with?

now try this one

luke cage
take away the unbreakable skin

what is left to relate to luke cage? ALOT actually
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I Like Toast posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

The point is there are literally people saying they can't relate to BP, but a billionaire (Iron Man) a king (Thor), a super genius (Banner) and a Super Soldier (Captain America) are? When BP has all those abilities/traits rolled into one?

people relate to Tony's parents being distant and the feeling of never being good enough to them. People relate to Banner being the 'nerdy outsider' and the feeling of losing yourself to anger(you probably relate given how hate filled you have to be to make this topic). Cap literally was the scrawny nerd who couldn't cut it to serve in the war so he got an injection to do it. as well as the entire bit about Bucky and trying to help your friends over anything else. Thor has all of his family drama and Thors desire to simply escape it and be himself until duty ultimately forces him back. Not to mention, what kid didn't imagine being Zeus, Hercules, Thor and the other awesome gods of Greek and Norse mythology. Just like people don't relate to spiderman because they can crawl on a wall and are a genius with an infinite supply of one liners. They relate to the 'loser' kid in high school who loses the things he values most. You don't relate to the final product, you relate to the journey. It's why the great comic book characters are the ones with human emotions, human values, and overcome human obstacles.

They aren't relating to them because of any of the shit that you listed. and black people aren't going to relate to black panther because they're so simple minded and go, "omg he's the same color as me!" we're the same! but please, keep projecting on your phantom boogieman and avoid answering the question, because the answer is you're a racist.

So they can relate to 10+ superheroes and not Black Panther or they can relate to 1 or 2 characters and watch movies with unrelatable characters but somehow not Black Panther? Which one is it?

why do people worry about "relating" to a character so much? I don't have to relate to the characters to enjoy fiction
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Imagine giving a shit about what people think about Black Panther of all things.

You guys need to get a life. Seriously.

MC_BatCommander posted...

why do people worry about "relating" to a character so much? I don't have to relate to the characters to enjoy fiction

yeah really

I don't relate at all to Magneto but fuck if he isn't still one of my favorite comic characters
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NewerMernardi posted...

s and not Black Panther

The only person who said they can't is you.

because

I Like Toast posted...

But I see you still choose to create a fictional boogeyman than attempt any relevant point.

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NewerMernardi posted...

50Blessings posted...

RockRapDubstep posted...

This would be the first high profile comic book movie with a black lead since like Blade or something

I think he meant first good film

None of the movies in the Blade trilogy were that good in terms of plot. The franchise is held up by Wesley Snipes's cool and charisma. When you go see a Blade movie, you don't care about the story, the crew, or the enemies, you are there to see him kicking ass, and that's it.

I would love to see a comeback of Wesley Snipes's Blade. Making him MCU canon would be awesome, but I would rather not see a Blade 4 movie because Blade is the only guy I care about, not his unmemorable supporting cast. Making him a team leader of street-level avengers would make more sense than forcing him to continue a series that's in a rut.

Lol, I am going to watch and enjoy Black Panther because I can't relate to him.

He's an African king who is physically super human and wears an advanced tech suit. There is no one, well, anywhere who can relate to that and I don't even understand the claims that this is representation for any group. Heroes like Black Panther might as well be an alien like Superman or Thor. It's just a power fantasy that makes it fun to imagine being that powerful and still having to face unbelievable odds, in order to save the world.
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I Like Toast posted...

NewerMernardi posted...

s and not Black Panther

The only person who said they can't is you.

because

I Like Toast posted...

But I see you still choose to create a fictional boogeyman than attempt any relevant point.

Are you still trying to make a point?

RagingRobophobe posted...

I would love to see a comeback of Wesley Snipes's Blade. Making him MCU canon would be awesome, but I would rather not see a Blade 4 movie because Blade is the only guy I care about, not his unmemorable supporting cast. Making him a team leader of street-level avengers would make more sense than forcing him to continue a series that's in a rut.

He's probably not famous enough to star in a movie anymore but could realistically work in a Netflix show.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

RagingRobophobe posted...

I would love to see a comeback of Wesley Snipes's Blade. Making him MCU canon would be awesome, but I would rather not see a Blade 4 movie because Blade is the only guy I care about, not his unmemorable supporting cast. Making him a team leader of street-level avengers would make more sense than forcing him to continue a series that's in a rut.

He's probably not famous enough to star in a movie anymore but could realistically work in a Netflix show.

I'd love for Snipes to come back and reprise his role on a Netflix show tbh. I wouldn't mind a new actor either though.

C_Pain posted...

Then why do unrepresented minorities in media get to say they don't feel connected to characters and that's fine

I can honestly say I've never seen this happen ever. Nor have I felt it because of skin color.
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I think the movie looks boring but I thought the same about guardians, doctor strange and ant man. I no longer question marvel.
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