Current Events > I don't see how people think the leap from last to current gen wasn't that huge

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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:26:18 PM
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Last gen all we did was pretty much smoothen out character models and textures in general, the amount of detail that was added to it from the new gen leap was INSANE.

Compare cross gen games that came out around the new console launch to their sequels like Wolfenstein TNO to Wolfenstein 2 TNC, Destiny to Destiny 2, or Shadow of Mordor to Shadow of War it's night and day and look miles apart in comparison

How can people say there isn't much a difference?
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/04/17 4:29:14 PM
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Diminishing returns. The improvement from last to current gen was much smaller than all previous ones, and the change will continue to shrink with subsequent gens
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:34:40 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Diminishing returns. The improvement from last to current gen was much smaller than all previous ones, and the change will continue to shrink with subsequent gens

This is bullshit, the leap was enormous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLw1OLsx_lA


It may not be as visible to many but from a technological standpoint the leap was huge
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Peter_Griffin33
11/04/17 4:35:25 PM
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TheDarkCircle
11/04/17 4:36:21 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Diminishing returns. The improvement from last to current gen was much smaller than all previous ones, and the change will continue to shrink with subsequent gens


This. The graphics we get now, is what we had hoped for last gen tbh. Sure they'll continue to improve, but as a medium in terms of gameplay, design and style it's very clear video games are at a plateau for the moment. And it's unclear if there ever is a next step.
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:37:03 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/04/17 4:37:05 PM
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I never said the leap wasn't big, because it was. I said the leap to current gen was much smaller than previous ones, and the changes aren't nearly as obvious. That's why people aren't as impressed
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Tmaster148
11/04/17 4:38:26 PM
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I don't see how constantly bitching and complaining about video games is a good use of time.
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:39:29 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
design and style it's very clear video games are at a plateau for the moment. And it's unclear if there ever is a next step.

This is only true in the AAA space, the indie scene continues to innovate with new and unique ways of playing.

Unless you're taking about controllers because if that is the case then Nintendo already has you covered (Not hating here, just saying)
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:40:49 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
I don't see how constantly bitching and complaining about video games is a good use of time.

Why wouldn't we discuss videogames on a site about videogames?
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Tmaster148
11/04/17 4:41:45 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I don't see how constantly bitching and complaining about video games is a good use of time.

Why wouldn't we discuss videogames on a site about videogames?


Except you have no desire to discuss anything.
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 4:42:52 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I don't see how constantly bitching and complaining about video games is a good use of time.

Why wouldn't we discuss videogames on a site about videogames?


Except you have no desire to discuss anything.

We are discussing, you're just trying to derail it for some reason
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Tmaster148
11/04/17 4:45:16 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I don't see how constantly bitching and complaining about video games is a good use of time.

Why wouldn't we discuss videogames on a site about videogames?


Except you have no desire to discuss anything.

We are discussing, you're just trying to derail it for some reason


Literally to the first comment you call it bullshit and link to some youtube video. So much for creating an environment of discussion. You only want people to agree with you.
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Gamer99z
11/04/17 4:48:38 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Diminishing returns. The improvement from last to current gen was much smaller than all previous ones, and the change will continue to shrink with subsequent gens

This is bullshit, the leap was enormous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLw1OLsx_lA


It may not be as visible to many but from a technological standpoint the leap was huge

Nobody denies that the current gen leap was big from a technical perspective on paper. It's just that the diminishing returns he's talking about is referring to what's clearly visible to people and what games can really do. The jump from PS1 to PS2 for example was graphically huge upon immediate glance and the things video games were capable of doing increased a lot with that extra power.
The jump to current gen doesn't really add too much in the way of what games are capable of and to many people just feels like adding polish to things that last gen didn't have, which doesn't necessarily have the same "whoa" effect.
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 5:15:17 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Literally to the first comment you call it bullshit and link to some youtube video

ITP: Discussions can only be one sided

Gamer99z posted...
Nobody denies that the current gen leap was big from a technical perspective on paper.

I've seen multiple users on this very board do this unironically.

Gamer99z posted...
It's just that the diminishing returns he's talking about is referring to what's clearly visible to people and what games can really do. The jump from PS1 to PS2 for example was graphically huge upon immediate glance and the things video games were capable of doing increased a lot with that extra power.

I agree to some degree but now that cross gen games are no longer a thing the difference is immediatly obvious to the naked eye. I agree gameplay wise publishers are too scared to try something fresh and completely different but I don't play AAA games expecting that and you should either tbqh

Gamer99z posted...
The jump to current gen doesn't really add too much in the way of what games are capable of and to many people just feels like adding polish to things that last gen didn't have, which doesn't necessarily have the same "whoa" effect.

How can you not be wowed by games of this gen?
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Tmaster148
11/04/17 5:16:08 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
ITP: Discussions can only be one sided


No. Your discussions are one sided, because you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoint.
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/04/17 5:25:22 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
ITP: Discussions can only be one sided


No. Your discussions are one sided, because you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoint.

Seriously, second post was me respectfully explaining why many people aren't as impressed with the change from last gen to current gen, and ZP immediately responded negatively, shouting bullshit.

It's clear he just wants to bitch and moan about trivial shit, not engage in respectable discussion. I shoulda known
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ZombiePelican
11/04/17 6:20:12 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...

No. Your discussions are one sided, because you refuse to acknowledge any other viewpoint.

I agreed with a piece of what the post above me had to say about gameplay plateuing in the AAA industry.

You can stop making shit up about me. Lol
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