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Romes187
11/03/17 12:55:39 PM
#53:


ask for a 15 minute meeting with them

ask them what they thought was so idiotic about what you did

ask them what they would have done in your place and make a plan for doing that in the future

they won't think you're an idiot after that

if they do, then they are the idiot
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ConfessPlease
11/03/17 1:00:38 PM
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Xan you post the screenshot?
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addled
11/03/17 1:00:45 PM
#55:


Keep a copy of the email if possible and save it, don't act on unless you have to.

If you feel that the company is treating you like garbage from now on and you can prove it's because of the email then you might have a case.

For now I would just go on do you your job to the best of your ability and show that, if you did do something stupid it was a one time mistake that you won't do again.

Prove that you are the better person and the faith your company has in you is worth it.
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 1:09:22 PM
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ConfessPlease posted...
Xan you post the screenshot?

I actually don't have it. It was recalled really quick. Had I not been at my desk, I would have never seen it
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Illuminoius
11/03/17 1:17:10 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
"Idiot" is only a modable offense on CE.

with how much it's gotten away with, it's not actually a moddable offense apparently
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Bio1590
11/03/17 1:26:45 PM
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lmao what a bunch of sisses marking that post
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/03/17 1:45:58 PM
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Chunkey Simmons posted...
It was recalled really quick.


What does this even mean? Twice you've said this in this "this happened" topic.
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DanHarenChamp
11/03/17 1:50:03 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...
Oh noes tc got his feelings hurt guyz

Because you might get warned again bro


Huh u a noob or wat?
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 1:52:12 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
It was recalled really quick.


What does this even mean? Twice you've said this in this "this happened" topic.

If you send an email, you have a short amount of time to cancel it. It will disappear from everyone's inbox. Obv if you already read it, then the recall was pointless, but you can't prove the email was ever once sent unless HR gets involved
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The Admiral
11/03/17 1:53:22 PM
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E32005 posted...
Keep it for a rainy day lawsuit


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Anyway, if this topic is real, TC should most likely work on correcting the behavior that got him labeled an idiot rather than crying about what might be an apt job assessment.
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DanHarenChamp
11/03/17 1:58:29 PM
#64:


The Admiral posted...
E32005 posted...
Keep it for a rainy day lawsuit


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Anyway, if this topic is real, TC should most likely work on correcting the behavior that got him labeled an idiot rather than crying about what might be an apt job assessment.


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.
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Returning_CEmen
11/03/17 1:59:52 PM
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TC is pojr btw.
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NES4EVER
11/03/17 2:30:02 PM
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Chunkey Simmons posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
It was recalled really quick.


What does this even mean? Twice you've said this in this "this happened" topic.

If you send an email, you have a short amount of time to cancel it. It will disappear from everyone's inbox. Obv if you already read it, then the recall was pointless, but you can't prove the email was ever once sent unless HR gets involved


I don't know your specific server but the recall only works for anyone who hasn't read it yet on my work email. If you've read it, the recall fails and the sender gets a notification stating as much.
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gafemaqs
11/03/17 3:17:31 PM
#67:


What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?
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SamuelHayden
11/03/17 3:19:28 PM
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Chunkey Simmons posted...
I don't directly report to the VP, but he questioned one of my decisions and gave his input to his employees. He accidentally CC'd me in the email, and clear as day he called me an idiot

The email was recalled, but I think if I go to HR they could pull it up. Should I? Or are they going to fire me instead? He's the VP, I'm a lower position then he is


Protip: HR is not your friend. HR is there to protect the company, not you.
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1NfamousACE_2
11/03/17 3:37:06 PM
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TC gonna get fired
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EvalAngell
11/03/17 3:43:58 PM
#70:


Tell your mom and have her call up the HR manager and complain on your behalf. That always works.
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masticatingman
11/03/17 3:44:20 PM
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Just dont say anything. Its a lose lose if you do. Not sure what the debate is here. You dont have any leverage and youll sound sensitive. Its not like you were called a slur word.
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 3:47:25 PM
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gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat
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DragonGirlYuki
11/03/17 3:48:48 PM
#73:


Oh just say you were just following orders. Learn to pass the buck.
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1NfamousACE_2
11/03/17 3:50:31 PM
#74:


Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat


Your COO is stupid

You don't actually cut costs by ordering twice a year, it just seems like it.
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daftpunk_mk5
11/03/17 3:50:57 PM
#75:


Dont go to HR. They arent your friend.
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NeoShadowhen
11/03/17 3:51:16 PM
#76:


Romes187 posted...
ask for a 15 minute meeting with them

ask them what they thought was so idiotic about what you did

ask them what they would have done in your place and make a plan for doing that in the future

they won't think you're an idiot after that

if they do, then they are the idiot


This is solid advice. Don't be confrontational about it. Act enthusiastic to improve. You might even be bro's after.

Or, keep you head low and put together an exit plan.
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gafemaqs
11/03/17 4:06:56 PM
#77:


Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 4:09:32 PM
#78:


gafemaqs posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.

I was the messenger guy, so he thought I was the one that initiated it
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gafemaqs
11/03/17 4:13:34 PM
#79:


Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.

I was the messenger guy, so he thought I was the one that initiated it

If you're sore about it or are afraid of how it makes you look, you could just send him an email explaining you saw what he called you and politely explain the situation.

Might not ultimately be worth it though.
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Twin3Turbo
11/03/17 4:15:09 PM
#80:


Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.

I was the messenger guy, so he thought I was the one that initiated it

So in reality, he's calling your boss an idiot.

That must be awkward.
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 4:17:08 PM
#82:


Twin3Turbo posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.

I was the messenger guy, so he thought I was the one that initiated it

So in reality, he's calling your boss an idiot.

That must be awkward.

Yeah

But the problem is that he used my name in the email
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Magic Bean
11/03/17 4:18:04 PM
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I wouldn't do anything aside from saving the email in case they ever did try to fire you...
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Life Sympathy
11/03/17 5:05:21 PM
#84:


Man up and confront him directly about it face-to-face without involving anyone else on it.
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Axiom
11/03/17 5:10:44 PM
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Chunkey Simmons posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
gafemaqs posted...
What was so bad about your decision that made him call you one?

We order supplies when we need them. My COO requested only two orders a year in order to cut costs. No one liked the idea, but he wanted me to spread the word so I did. Now we're running low on certain items and I was put in the hotseat

But what's that have to do with you? Sounds like you just did what you were told.

I was the messenger guy, so he thought I was the one that initiated it

So in reality, he's calling your boss an idiot.

That must be awkward.

Yeah

But the problem is that he used my name in the email

Then you should talk to him and explain what happened instead of reporting it. To be honest I don't really see the point in reporting it at all considering bosses calling underlings idiots is so common. They'll do it even when you haven't done anything wrong and they're just looking for someone to blame

So either get over it or confront him yourself
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E32005
11/03/17 5:12:00 PM
#86:


DanHarenChamp posted...
The Admiral posted...
E32005 posted...
Keep it for a rainy day lawsuit


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Anyway, if this topic is real, TC should most likely work on correcting the behavior that got him labeled an idiot rather than crying about what might be an apt job assessment.


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Fucking rekt
Stay mad identity politics admiral
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Hummer 2
11/03/17 5:23:45 PM
#87:


Real advice: Tell him you were concerned with some of the language in the email especially since you see yourself as a valuable employee of the company with aspirations of moving up. Let him know you were following orders and would value his advice on how he should have handled what happened.

You can use this situation to help move yourself up. Outsmart his bitch ass to make it seem like you're the hero while stroking his ego.
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SusanGreenEyes
11/03/17 5:36:08 PM
#88:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
....are people really in here trying to act like it's acceptable to be called an idiot by a superior?


Why wouldn't it be acceptable?

The VP didn't actually call TC an idiot. He said it in an email to someone else.
The question is, how did you see the email in the first place?
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YourDrunkFather
11/03/17 5:40:00 PM
#89:


E32005 posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...
The Admiral posted...
E32005 posted...
Keep it for a rainy day lawsuit


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Anyway, if this topic is real, TC should most likely work on correcting the behavior that got him labeled an idiot rather than crying about what might be an apt job assessment.


Is this guy a gimmick account, or he is really this uneducated about every topic he posts on? I honestly can't tell.

Fucking rekt
Stay mad identity politics admiral


It was actually pretty lame and it's cringe worthy how desperate you guys are to attack the guy
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ChromaticAngel
11/03/17 5:50:06 PM
#90:


Chunkey Simmons posted...
I don't directly report to the VP, but he questioned one of my decisions and gave his input to his employees. He accidentally CC'd me in the email, and clear as day he called me an idiot

The email was recalled, but I think if I go to HR they could pull it up. Should I? Or are they going to fire me instead? He's the VP, I'm a lower position then he is


Depends if the VP is above the HR manager or not.
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NES4EVER
11/03/17 6:00:55 PM
#91:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
I don't directly report to the VP, but he questioned one of my decisions and gave his input to his employees. He accidentally CC'd me in the email, and clear as day he called me an idiot

The email was recalled, but I think if I go to HR they could pull it up. Should I? Or are they going to fire me instead? He's the VP, I'm a lower position then he is


Depends if the VP is above the HR manager or not.


Once again, HR is a function in place to protect management. They are not looking out for you.
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Chunkey Simmons
11/03/17 6:01:25 PM
#92:


SusanGreenEyes posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
....are people really in here trying to act like it's acceptable to be called an idiot by a superior?


Why wouldn't it be acceptable?

The VP didn't actually call TC an idiot. He said it in an email to someone else.
The question is, how did you see the email in the first place?

The VP accidentally CC'd me in the email
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3khc
11/03/17 6:01:44 PM
#93:


Post the email to reddit. Let them decide.
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Zeus
11/03/17 6:05:40 PM
#94:


It depends. Are you an idiot? If the VP called you an idiot and you are an idiot, he has an ironclad defense. There's nothing you can do about it in that case.
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SusanGreenEyes
11/03/17 6:09:39 PM
#95:


What exactly did you do that the man drafted an email for the specific purpose of calling you an idiot?
What happened?
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The_REAL_Duke_O
11/03/17 6:13:03 PM
#96:


addled posted...
Keep a copy of the email if possible and save it, don't act on unless you have to.

If you feel that the company is treating you like garbage from now on and you can prove it's because of the email then you might have a case.


Honestly, if the company does something, the TC can use that e-mail to support a lawsuit of some sort against the company. I would definitely save that e-mail and document anything else the supervisor or any other person does against the TC. The courts love precise documentation.
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MrDrMan
11/03/17 6:17:27 PM
#97:


No, calling out your VP is not a good idea. Youre more dispensable than the VP. Even if he is in the wrong you will look bad for stirring the pot.

If you want to call him out then be ready to leave that job.
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Izual_Reborn
11/03/17 6:18:05 PM
#98:


I think its less to do with being called an idiot and More to do with the the act obviously people in power dont respect tc at his company.
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Izual_Reborn
11/03/17 6:21:20 PM
#99:


Only move with any positive outcome is confronting the guy in question and telling him while you respect him you dont appreciate him calling you an idiot without him being privy to the facts. Then hopefully you can explain what happened. Maybe hell respect you for having balls.

I dont see any positive stuff by going to hr.
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ChromaticAngel
11/03/17 6:22:26 PM
#100:


NES4EVER posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Chunkey Simmons posted...
I don't directly report to the VP, but he questioned one of my decisions and gave his input to his employees. He accidentally CC'd me in the email, and clear as day he called me an idiot

The email was recalled, but I think if I go to HR they could pull it up. Should I? Or are they going to fire me instead? He's the VP, I'm a lower position then he is


Depends if the VP is above the HR manager or not.


Once again, HR is a function in place to protect management. They are not looking out for you.

Nope. HR protects the bottom line of the company pocketbook.
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Roxborough4Ever
11/03/17 6:23:41 PM
#101:


he didn't CC you by "mistake", he wants you to know
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