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Howl
11/02/17 4:59:28 PM
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He clearly acted in self defense. Why did the liberal media make him out to be a monster?
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Fishy
11/02/17 5:00:34 PM
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Because he was white.
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Hexenherz
11/02/17 5:00:44 PM
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Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.
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Axiom
11/02/17 5:00:57 PM
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That's what happens when you're a murderer
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_Krave_
11/02/17 5:01:25 PM
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Fishy posted...
Because he was white.

Except he isn't white.
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Howl
11/02/17 5:01:30 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


That's literally victim blaming.
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RebelElite791
11/02/17 5:02:03 PM
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Is your life so empty that years later you can't find anything else to shitpost about
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LightHawKnight
11/02/17 5:02:30 PM
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_Krave_ posted...
Fishy posted...
Because he was white.

Except he isn't white.


The media said he was.
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Hexenherz
11/02/17 5:03:13 PM
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Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


That's literally victim blaming.


I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.
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FrisbeeDude
11/02/17 5:07:29 PM
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Because he got his ass kicked by a kid while playing superhero and responded with murder
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Howl
11/02/17 5:07:31 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


That's literally victim blaming.


I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.


He was attacked, and therefore a victim of a violent assault.
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
11/02/17 5:10:17 PM
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Hexenherz
11/02/17 5:11:14 PM
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Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


That's literally victim blaming.


I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.


He was attacked, and therefore a victim of a violent assault.

lol
That's like saying "He voluntarily stepped into a tiger's cage and the tiger tried to eat him so he had the right to kill the tiger".
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Howl
11/02/17 5:12:57 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


That's literally victim blaming.


I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.


He was attacked, and therefore a victim of a violent assault.

lol
That's like saying "He voluntarily stepped into a tiger's cage and the tiger tried to eat him so he had the right to kill the tiger".


Or more close to people blaming rape victims for wearing skirts.
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KillerKhan420
11/02/17 5:13:30 PM
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Zimmerman isn't the hero we wanted but the hero we needed. Whoever that kid was, there was no reason to attack but he did anyways. If Zimmerman didn't have his gun on him, that kid would probably of killed him and it would never of made the news the way it did. Just another statistic we could ignore.

The moral of the story just like with Ferguson is, do not fuck with people, especially cops. Even if you can beat them up for sure you know they got a gun and you keep hitting them the chances of them pulling it out keep increasing, it's a natural response.
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The Great Muta 22
11/02/17 5:13:49 PM
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_Near_
11/02/17 5:14:20 PM
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because he's a wannabe cop shit-starter and got a kid killed because of his actions
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Howl
11/02/17 5:14:54 PM
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_Near_ posted...
because he's a wannabe cop shit-starter and got a kid killed because of his actions


No, the "kid" got killed because of his own actions.
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LightHawKnight
11/02/17 5:16:07 PM
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_Near_ posted...
because he's a wannabe cop shit-starter and got a kid killed because of his actions


Eh, whilst Zimmerman was stupid for following the teen, the teen was equally stupid to double back after losing Zimmerman and then attacking Zimmerman.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/02/17 5:16:11 PM
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Zimmerman may have acted in self defense but he still comes off as a person with issues.

If Zimmerman had minded his own business instead of trying something he isn't trained or have the authority for then none of this would have happened.
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WaffIeElite
11/02/17 7:03:06 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


Mixing up the two there, chump change. Trayvon jumped and tried to kill Zimmerman.
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hollow_shrine
11/02/17 7:04:25 PM
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Because he deserved it.
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Benify
11/02/17 7:05:03 PM
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cant flim flam the zim zam
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IWBYD
11/02/17 7:06:02 PM
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From what my classmate told me at the time (He was police) many in law enforcement disliked how he was a "Holster Sniffer" or a wannabe cop.

In fact I remembe several cops pulling him over and fucking with him during his "Trip Across America" (CNN)
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sktgamer_13dude
11/02/17 9:19:29 PM
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WaffIeElite posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


Mixing up the two there, chump change. Trayvon jumped and tried to kill Zimmerman.

Trayvon only came back cause Zimmerman was following him for no reason besides his skin color.

Not saying Trayvon was in the right, but Zimmerman deserves blame too.
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jumi
11/02/17 9:20:19 PM
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Because he murdered a child.
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L0Z
11/02/17 9:22:25 PM
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That reminds me of this time an African American 16 randomly shot a guy in my hometown in a Wal-Mart parking lot. The guy returned fire on the kid and he ran away. The mother tried to sue saying his son was the victim
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DragonMaster525
11/02/17 9:29:31 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
If Trayvon had minded his own business instead of trying something he isn't trained for then none of this would have happened.

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Hexenherz
11/02/17 9:32:11 PM
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WaffIeElite posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


Mixing up the two there, chump change. Trayvon jumped and tried to kill Zimmerman.


I'm pretty sure getting stalked by someone will trigger the fight or flight response in most people. In this case it triggered Trayvon's fight response. I also don't think he was innocent, but I think it's wrong to say Zimmerman was 100% in the right for his behaviors.
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DragonMaster525
11/02/17 9:34:40 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
WaffIeElite posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


Mixing up the two there, chump change. Trayvon jumped and tried to kill Zimmerman.

Not saying the rapist was in the right, but the girl wearing the short skirt deserves blame too.

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Hexenherz
11/02/17 9:37:28 PM
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That's the easiest analogy to make, but it's a false one.
Zimmerman's role in his community was to make reports to the police, and let the police handle their work. If he wanted to stalk a guy down the street he could have stayed in his vehicle for increased safety.
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
11/02/17 9:40:08 PM
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Axiom posted...
That's what happens when you're a murderer
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Monolith1676
11/02/17 9:43:26 PM
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L0Z posted...
That reminds me of this time an African American 16 randomly shot a guy in my hometown in a Wal-Mart parking lot. The guy returned fire on the kid and he ran away. The mother tried to sue saying his son was the victim


What town was that?
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KStateKing17
11/02/17 9:46:23 PM
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I'm just posting to catch the inevitable shit show this topic always produces.
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I is smart
11/02/17 10:15:12 PM
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WaffIeElite posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other? And the guy was a general douchebag. I mean he followed this guy around and basically instigated a fight. Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.


Mixing up the two there, chump change. Trayvon jumped and tried to kill Zimmerman.


So what was the guy with a gun and stalking someone for being black trying to do?
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Jswift254
11/02/17 10:20:31 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Because he got his ass kicked by a kid while playing superhero and responded with murder

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darkjedilink
11/02/17 10:22:57 PM
#38:


Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.

That's literally victim blaming.

I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.

You mean, the guy who was assaulted without provocation isn't a victim?
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jumi
11/03/17 1:02:27 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.

That's literally victim blaming.

I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.

You mean, the guy who was assaulted without provocation isn't a victim?


Not when he's stalking someone when police told him not to, no.
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Darklit_Minuet
11/03/17 1:09:25 AM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Zimmerman isn't the hero we wanted but the hero we needed. Whoever that kid was, there was no reason to attack but he did anyways. If Zimmerman didn't have his gun on him, that kid would probably of killed him and it would never of made the news the way it did. Just another statistic we could ignore.

If he didn't have a gun he wouldn't have stalked and ambushed a child trying to walk home, and the murder would never have happened
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jumi
11/03/17 1:10:05 AM
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Wariodorf posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Didn't he physically abuse his significant other?

Why was this ignored in this thread?


Because he's a murderer. So OF COURSE he's an asshole.
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Solid Snake07
11/03/17 1:11:15 AM
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because he's an asshole

shooting aside, total asswipe of a human being
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darkjedilink
11/03/17 6:43:58 AM
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jumi posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Howl posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Yeah he acted in self-defense ultimately but he put himself into the stupid situation that required that self-defense.

That's literally victim blaming.

I think the clear victim here is a guy who was killed without due process, but... I mean sure, Zimmerman can be the victim, why not.

You mean, the guy who was assaulted without provocation isn't a victim?

Not when he's stalking someone when police told him not to, no.

Literally didn't happen.

You know that the NBC cut of the 911 call was fake, right?
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darkjedilink
11/03/17 6:48:38 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
I'm pretty sure getting stalked by someone will trigger the fight or flight response in most people. In this case it triggered Trayvon's fight response. I also don't think he was innocent, but I think it's wrong to say Zimmerman was 100% in the right for his behaviors.

I don't think anyone on CE seriously believes Zimmerman was 100% in the right. However, literally nothing he did was illegal, or against police instruction. The fact is, at one point, he broke off the chase, and was returning to his vehicle. THAT was when he was attacked.

According to forensics, Zimmerman was never closer than 75 feet to Martin, yet Martin, with no knowledge of the gun, felt "threatened?" Actually, he didn't - we know from his girlfriend's testimony that, when he was just a few steps from his dad's house, he stopped, turned around, and told her he's going to "teach that crazy-assed cracker a lesson."

This isn't a "fight or flight" response. It's a violent thug trying to show he's a badass. It's a shame that, in response to his violence causing his own death, people think the victim of assault is to blame.
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SavenForever
11/03/17 7:24:54 AM
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Because everyone fell in line after the media told them so.
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mortimerjames
11/03/17 7:31:58 AM
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because he initiated the fight
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darkjedilink
11/03/17 7:51:37 AM
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mortimerjames posted...
because he initiated the fight

How do you initiate a fight in which you're attacked from behind?
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Rika_Furude
11/03/17 7:54:20 AM
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he stalked someone because they were black, made them feel threatened and in danger, and provoked them to attack (if they even did attack and zimmerman didn't attack first). zimmerman is definitely not a good person and doesnt deserve freedom .

darkjedilink posted...
mortimerjames posted...
because he initiated the fight

How do you initiate a fight in which you're attacked from behind?

how are you "attacked from behind" when you are the one stalking them?
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