Current Events > Donna Brazlie sells out the DNC

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GregShmedley posted...

bkkorps posted...

GregShmedley posted...

I still can't believe people are defending this.

This is literally an attack on democracy.

right? the russians might have fucked with our election. Hillary literally did fuck with it.

Yup. Even IF we look at it as her "saving" the DNC, there is still a process for electing a Democratic nominee and this was a complete disregard of it.

And it's perfectly legal as it turns out. So yeah, our electoral process? A total sham. We live in a monarchical republic.
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Hillary pulled a Mr. Burns.
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Is there a bigger loser than Hillary?
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Ironically this also probably means whatever Trump's interference was with the election wasn't illegal, even if it was tantamount to treason.

Also Bernie sold out I guess.
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byron posted...

Drasilor posted...

byron posted...

Drasilor posted...

Lol liberals.

While this is bad it's nowhere near being the party of Russian spys

Lmao

Nah

Yeah

And a year later there's still more proof of DNC collusion with Russians than GOP collusion

Sad.
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byron posted...

Nah but you can keep telling yourself that

Actually it's true.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

Keep telling yourself otherwise if you need to make yourself feel better, but I honestly couldn't care less about your feelings.
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byron posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

byron posted...

Nah but you can keep telling yourself that

Actually it's true.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

Keep telling yourself otherwise if you need to make yourself feel better, but I honestly couldn't care less about your feelings.

DENY DENY DENY

Hillary? Is that you?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

byron posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

byron posted...

Nah but you can keep telling yourself that

Actually it's true.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

Keep telling yourself otherwise if you need to make yourself feel better, but I honestly couldn't care less about your feelings.

DENY DENY DENY

Hillary? Is that you?

The Russians, Hillary!
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CTR pls go
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byron posted...

Russian trolls please go. How many rubles do you get per post?

What's it like having as big a tinfoil hat as birthers do?
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byron posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

byron posted...

Russian trolls please go. How many rubles do you get per post?

What's it like having as big a tinfoil hat as birthers do?

I wouldn't know.

Oh yeah? So how much did Trump pay to Russia to win the election? Hillary and the DNC paid at least $8.2 million for the dossier which was made with Russian help, according to WaPo. Or is the Washington Post fake news too?
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byron posted...

Wasn't that dossier started by republicans

Nope. The dossier didn't exist until after the DNC funded it. Steele was hired by the DNC, not the GOP

You would know that if you read the link, sport ;)
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byron posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

byron posted...

Wasn't that dossier started by republicans

Nope. The dossier didn't exist until after the DNC funded it. Steele was hired by the DNC, not the GOP

You would know that if you read the link, sport ;)

Fake news, comrade

You DNC shills are so desperate that you're calling the Washington Post fake news XD

How soon before you even have to call CNN fake news because the evidence becomes too damning for even them to deny anymore?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

You DNC shills are so desperate that you're calling the Washington Post fake news XD

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Sephiroth1288 posted...

How soon before you even have to call CNN fake news because the evidence becomes too damning for even them to deny anymore?

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The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trumps connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

- Washington Post, Oct. 24 2017

"F-f-fake n-news..." - byron
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I think we have a genuine case of projection here. How much does CTR pay, @byron ?
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This is just getting pathetic at this point. No one would seriously call WaPo fake news.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

This is just getting pathetic at this point. No one would seriously call WaPo fake news.

At least, no liberal would.

The amount of liberal cognitive dissonance since this broke is mind-numbing, tbh.

Although, I get it - the DNC can't hide their shit anymore after Fusion GPS threw them under the bus. They have no choice but to do damage control, and so they're distancing themselves from the Clintons as best they can.
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What's funny to me is that both sides of this fling shit at the opposing side as if their own house isn't dirty - it's hilarious.

For the millionth time: BOTH YOUR HOUSES ARE CORRUPT, SLEEZY GARBAGE. Deflecting won't change that shit. Both Dems and Repubs are a dumpster fire right now, which then means that our government as a whole is in ruins; you all would be better served trying to solve the problem collectively than pointing fingers and playing the "whatabout" game.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Nope. The dossier didn't exist until after the DNC funded it. Steele was hired by the DNC, not the GOP

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html

The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government, the website said on Friday.

The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

@Sephiroth1288

@byron
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_OujiDoza_ posted...

For the millionth time: BOTH YOUR HOUSES ARE CORRUPT, SLEEZY GARBAGE. Deflecting won't change that s***. Both Dems and Repubs are a dumpster fire right now, which then means that our government as a whole is in ruins; you all would be better served trying to solve the problem collectively than pointing fingers and playing the "whatabout" game.

Actually it's rather obvious that the DNC is worse (and worse off) than the GOP.

Not only has the DNC been proven to collude with Russia to win the election while the FBI investigation still hasn't proved the same of Trump, but the DNC is also broke thanks entirely to the Clinton Foundation, which had been in control of the DNC since Wasserman-Schulz was ousted.
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Darkman124 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Nope. The dossier didn't exist until after the DNC funded it. Steele was hired by the DNC, not the GOP

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html

The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government, the website said on Friday.

The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

Not quite

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/25/top-10-things-to-know-about-dossier/

When the news broke that the Clinton campaign and the DNC were admitting partial responsibility for the Russia dossier, journalists acted like theyd presented it as a Clinton campaign operation all along. They also claimed it was initially funded by a Republican.

Incorrect. And Tapper took the tweet down when the error was pointed out. There is no evidence that a Republican donor or Republican campaign was ever involved with the Russian dossier. Fusion GPS claimed to reporters (though they did not provide evidence) that a Republican funded separate opposition research on Trump, dealing with his business interests. But as the Washington Post itself reports, the dossier did not exist until after the Democrats hired Fusion GPS:

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Darkman124 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Nope. The dossier didn't exist until after the DNC funded it. Steele was hired by the DNC, not the GOP

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html

The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government, the website said on Friday.

The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

@Sephiroth1288

@byron

You literally posted that he backed out before they got the dossier....

Add in that Fusion GPS already testified that the DNC financed the dossier, which they outright purchased from the Russian government, and I really don't see your point here.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Not quite

your new goalpost is that the dossier had to be fully assembled for money funneled to the company that created it to matter?

have fun with that.

they were funded by Singer initially, you can't dispute that. what do you think he had them doing?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Actually it's rather obvious that the DNC is worse (and worse off) than the GOP.

So by your logic, the DNC should clean up both parties fuck-ups? Do you even realize how dumb that shit sounds?
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Darkman124 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Not quite

your new goalpost is that the dossier had to be fully assembled for money funneled to the company that created it to matter?

have fun with that.

So, is your argument now that, because a private citizen paid them to look at his financials, then stopped, then months later the DNC paid them to buy dirt on him from the Russians, the GOP is somehow responsible?
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darkjedilink posted...

So, is your argument now that, because a private citizen paid them to look at his financials, then stopped, then months later the DNC paid them to buy dirt on him from the Russians, the GOP is somehow responsible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

http://tinyurl.com/ybtdxmzz (long WaPo link)

The Washington Free Beacon disclosed in congressional testimony on Friday that it is the mysterious client that initially paid for opposition research on Donald Trump performed by Fusion GPS, the firm that later worked with a former British spy to produce a dossier of claims about ties between Trump and Russia.

Just three days earlier, the Free Beacon, a conservative news site founded in 2012, told its readers that before Democrats hired Fusion GPS in April 2016, the firm's work was funded by an unknown GOP client while the primary was still going on."

They call themselves a GOP client.

So yes, the GOP is responsible.

Are you calling them liars?
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Chugging that Kool Aid
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darkjedilink posted...

Darkman124 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Not quite

your new goalpost is that the dossier had to be fully assembled for money funneled to the company that created it to matter?

have fun with that.

So, is your argument now that, because a private citizen paid them to look at his financials, then stopped, then months later the DNC paid them to buy dirt on him from the Russians, the GOP is somehow responsible?

They backed out before a dossier existed, or even any information gotten

And then the DNC actually paid for the dossier that was put together with Russian help

Are you saying there is no difference in culpability here? Seems rather obvious that the DNC is the primary mover there.
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Darkman124 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

So, is your argument now that, because a private citizen paid them to look at his financials, then stopped, then months later the DNC paid them to buy dirt on him from the Russians, the GOP is somehow responsible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

http://tinyurl.com/ybtdxmzz (long WaPo link)

The Washington Free Beacon disclosed in congressional testimony on Friday that it is the mysterious client that initially paid for opposition research on Donald Trump performed by Fusion GPS, the firm that later worked with a former British spy to produce a dossier of claims about ties between Trump and Russia.

Just three days earlier, the Free Beacon, a conservative news site founded in 2012, told its readers that before Democrats hired Fusion GPS in April 2016, the firm's work was funded by an unknown GOP client while the primary was still going on."

They call themselves a GOP client.

So yes, the GOP is responsible.

Are you calling them liars?

Considering they called them an "unknown" GOP client, no. However, it later came out that the person who funded it has no direct connection to the GOP in any way, so you're just plain wrong.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Darkman124 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Not quite

your new goalpost is that the dossier had to be fully assembled for money funneled to the company that created it to matter?

have fun with that.

So, is your argument now that, because a private citizen paid them to look at his financials, then stopped, then months later the DNC paid them to buy dirt on him from the Russians, the GOP is somehow responsible?

They backed out before a dossier existed, or even any information gotten

And then the DNC actually paid for the dossier that was put together with Russian help

Are you saying there is no difference in culpability here? Seems rather obvious that the DNC is the primary mover there.

That's what I'm saying, dude - that the DNC did it, and the GOP had nothing to do with it.
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So happy I voted 3rd party!!!
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Cheater87 posted...

So happy I voted 3rd party!!!

Me, too - if only people weren't so hung up about electing the first woman President that they'd overlook her massive corruption, we MIGHT actually have someone competent in the White House.
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