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pegusus123456
10/31/17 8:30:39 PM
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I know about the allegations, but AFAIK, that's all they are: allegations. Is there something that lends credence to the story?
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Virus731
10/31/17 8:31:02 PM
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he admitted to probably doing it so
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foreveraIone
10/31/17 8:31:03 PM
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did he even deny them?
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MB2012
10/31/17 8:31:21 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I know about the allegations, but AFAIK, that's all they are: allegations. Is there something that lends credence to the story?

IIRC he confirmed it
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EnragedSlith
10/31/17 8:31:35 PM
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He sexually assaulted a 14 year old boy
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hollow_shrine
10/31/17 8:32:18 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
did he even deny them?

Nope
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pegusus123456
10/31/17 8:32:46 PM
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MB2012 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
I know about the allegations, but AFAIK, that's all they are: allegations. Is there something that lends credence to the story?

IIRC he confirmed it

The only thing I know about is a tweet saying, "I don't remember it, but if I did, then I'm sorry."

That's not really confirming it.
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Antifar
10/31/17 8:34:44 PM
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Beyond the individual allegations that sparked this, there are a number of suggestions that this sort of thing was part of a pattern of behavior which was known about in Hollywood circles.
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MB2012
10/31/17 8:34:59 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
MB2012 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
I know about the allegations, but AFAIK, that's all they are: allegations. Is there something that lends credence to the story?

IIRC he confirmed it

The only thing I know about is a tweet saying, "I don't remember it, but if I did, then I'm sorry."

That's not really confirming it.

It's also not denying it. What type of like do you lead if you cannot remember if you sexually assaulted a 14 year old but it doesn't seem like something you wouldn't do so you just apologize for it.
Edit: spelling
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Axiom
10/31/17 8:37:54 PM
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Is it anything more than him drunkenly hitting on a 14 year old. I seriously haven't followed it at all but I know he apparently hit on some guy when he was a teen but did he do it knowing the guy was a teen or what
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ChibiGhasts
10/31/17 8:38:34 PM
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MB2012 posted...
It's also not denying it. What type of like do you lead if you cannot remember if you sexually assaulted a 14 year old but it doesn't seem like something you wouldn't do so you just apologize for it.
Edit: spelling

did you mean life
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Zikten
10/31/17 8:39:56 PM
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God damn witch pursuit thingies
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Virus731
10/31/17 8:40:19 PM
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Axiom posted...
Is it anything more than him drunkenly hitting on a 14 year old. I seriously haven't followed it at all but I know he apparently hit on some guy when he was a teen but did he do it knowing the guy was a teen or what


Apparently he jumped on top of him.
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Vicious_Dios
10/31/17 8:40:50 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
yeah it's kinda like a witch pursuit thingy


Yeah, it's nothing more than a witch chase.
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Gafemage
10/31/17 8:42:26 PM
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Axiom posted...
Is it anything more than him drunkenly hitting on a 14 year old. I seriously haven't followed it at all but I know he apparently hit on some guy when he was a teen but did he do it knowing the guy was a teen or what


There are rumors - and have been rumors prior to Rapp's allegations - that Kevin Spacey is notorious in Hollywood for preying on young/barely legal male actors.
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Callixtus
10/31/17 8:43:56 PM
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He is literally the dumbest person in all of history if he honestly doesn't remember sexually assaulting someone but apologized for it anyway.

What a way to throw your life away.
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Alucard188
10/31/17 8:44:06 PM
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The reason why they're hating on Kevin Spacey is twofold. First, thirty years ago, he attempted to seduce a 14 year old boy when he was 37. That's bad enough in its own right, but he took this opportunity to try and deflect from that by officially coming out as gay. So, he has swathes of LGBT people coming at him because of this.
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1NfamousACE_2
10/31/17 8:44:39 PM
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He played the "I'm gay" card like a draw four in Uno
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Zikten
10/31/17 8:45:08 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
The reason why they're hating on Kevin Spacey is twofold. First, thirty years ago, he attempted to seduce a 14 year old boy when he was 37. That's bad enough in its own right, but he took this opportunity to try and deflect from that by officially coming out as gay. So, he has swathes of LGBT people coming at him because of this.

You say it like it's a known fact. It's not. He MAY have done it. We don't know and don't act like you do
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foreveraIone
10/31/17 8:58:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
You say it like it's a known fact. It's not. He MAY have done it. We don't know and don't act like you do

He should have denied it then.

I don't like witch hunts but I can understand why everybody is shitting on him.
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Blue_Dream87
10/31/17 9:06:34 PM
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Seems the big reason is that he's trying to use coming out as a way to weasel out of a controversy. Fortunately people see right through his bullshit.
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Virus731
10/31/17 9:06:44 PM
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I think the only part people should be thinking about is the 14 part, other than that, don't be such a pussy and tell the old man to get off or you'll clock him.
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prince_leo
10/31/17 9:07:35 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
First, thirty years ago, he attempted to seduce a 14 year old boy when he was 37

he was 26, fyi
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gunplagirl
10/31/17 9:08:57 PM
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The other major reason everyone hates him is because he used this chance to come out as gay

Completely deflecting from himself and reviving that gay = pedo myth
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gunplagirl
10/31/17 9:17:07 PM
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It's hardly a witch hunt when he doesn't even deny it. He's dealt with lawyers before, he'd know to deny it. He knows the statute of limitations are up.
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DirtyAim
10/31/17 9:17:46 PM
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I think it's an all-around shitty situation.
I'm just gonna assume he did it since he all but confirmed it.

But,
Spacey was not some big league celebrity at the time, so the comparisons to Weinstein are off-base here.
He didn't actually assault him. Sure it was bad and traumatized Rapp, but it wasn't rape or even groping as far as I'm aware.
It's not pedophilia. I'm not defending the act, fucking disgusting that he even tried something, but don't compare it to a 26 year old trying to fuck a 7 year old.
This doesn't seem like a recurring problem. He was a drunk 26 year old who may not even have known how old Rapp was. Not excusing him for being drunk or unaware, but except for the falling on top of him it seems like he asked for more and when told no just backed off. Sure it's a problem, but not something to be shunned over 30 years later over.
It's only one case. No one else has come forward, no one else is saying he's tried to rape them or anything.

I truly think Rapp is traumatized by it, but Spacey is not on the same level as Weinstein and Cosby.
And again, it's just allegations. I'm sure it happened, but still.
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thronedfire2
10/31/17 9:18:35 PM
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Callixtus posted...
He is literally the dumbest person in all of history if he honestly doesn't remember sexually assaulting someone but apologized for it anyway.

What a way to throw your life away.


this

it's one of those "I was really drunk but yeah I probably did that" scenarios

if he really didn't remember he could just deny it. there's no proof
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Darmik
10/31/17 9:20:08 PM
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1. Another actor accused him
2. His statement doesn't really deny that they met and that this story could have happened
3. Spacey has a reputation of being a creep towards young men already
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50Blessings
10/31/17 9:20:36 PM
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Everyone is shitting on Kevin Spacey because everyone knew about it and did nothing, and now that it's out in the open they have to shit on them to not look like the awful pieces of shit they are.
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Alucard188
10/31/17 9:20:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
Alucard188 posted...
The reason why they're hating on Kevin Spacey is twofold. First, thirty years ago, he attempted to seduce a 14 year old boy when he was 37. That's bad enough in its own right, but he took this opportunity to try and deflect from that by officially coming out as gay. So, he has swathes of LGBT people coming at him because of this.

You say it like it's a known fact. It's not. He MAY have done it. We don't know and don't act like you do


He gets accused of something, and Kevin Spacey's immediate reaction is to claim he doesn't remember, and then apologize for it. He may have done it, and he may not have done it. So, do you think he apologized for something he didn't do?
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Axiom
10/31/17 9:23:53 PM
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Virus731 posted...
Axiom posted...
Is it anything more than him drunkenly hitting on a 14 year old. I seriously haven't followed it at all but I know he apparently hit on some guy when he was a teen but did he do it knowing the guy was a teen or what


Apparently he jumped on top of him.

Yeah I looked it up finally and found this

My memory was that I thought, Oh, everybodys gone. Well, yeah, I should probably go home, Rapp told BuzzFeed. Spacey, he said, sort of stood in the doorway, kind of swaying. My impression when he came in the room was that he was drunk He picked me up like a groom picks up the bride over the threshold. But I dont, like, squirm away initially, because Im like, Whats going on? And then he lays down on top of me.

He was trying to seduce me, Rapp said. I dont know if I would have used that language. But I was aware that he was trying to get with me sexually.


I can see why Rapp wouldn't like it but at the same time I feel like this is a lot less extreme than what I was imagining given the reaction to it. I guess there's no way to know if he knew he was a teen or not
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WizardPowers
10/31/17 9:24:16 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
First, thirty years ago, he attempted to seduce a 14 year old boy when he was 37


wat
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Darmik
10/31/17 9:31:45 PM
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Axiom posted...
I can see why Rapp wouldn't like it but at the same time I feel like this is a lot less extreme than what I was imagining given the reaction to it. I guess there's no way to know if he knew he was a teen or not


https://twitter.com/teresalo_tweets/status/924870411631898626

Seems kinda obvious to me.
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young_flip
10/31/17 9:32:13 PM
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they really aren't, mainly because it was a young boy he assaulted and not a girl.
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Zikten
10/31/17 9:33:09 PM
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I haven't even seen cnn talk about this. They are too busy with other stories. I only know about this cause of CE
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Behaviorism
10/31/17 9:35:03 PM
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He flirted with a teenager? Is that it? Everyone is talking like he raped him.
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Axiom
10/31/17 9:36:08 PM
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Darmik posted...
Axiom posted...
I can see why Rapp wouldn't like it but at the same time I feel like this is a lot less extreme than what I was imagining given the reaction to it. I guess there's no way to know if he knew he was a teen or not


https://twitter.com/teresalo_tweets/status/924870411631898626

Seems kinda obvious to me.

A yearbook photo is really not a good representation. He was also drunk so >_>
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50Blessings
10/31/17 9:36:10 PM
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Behaviorism posted...
He flirted with a teenager? Is that it? Everyone is talking like he raped him.


He threw him on a bed and got on top of him, it was a little more than flirted.
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Behaviorism
10/31/17 9:38:53 PM
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50Blessings posted...
Behaviorism posted...
He flirted with a teenager? Is that it? Everyone is talking like he raped him.


He threw him on a bed and got on top of him, it was a little more than flirted.

Oh my mistake then. I thought he just flirted with high schooler
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Darmik
10/31/17 9:47:36 PM
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There's been another accusation where he groped a man in a bar
http://radaronline.com/videos/kevin-spacey-accused-groping-man-bar-sexual-assault/

Rosie O'Donnell has said Spacey has had a creep reputation
no one knew details - like harvey - but u knew both were creepy men with reps that said so -

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rosie/status/925027999556292608

Which also matches a joke made in Family Guy where Stewie is running in fear naked saying he escaped Spacey's basement.

People hate Gawker but they had several stories of him being a creep years ago
http://defamer.gawker.com/people-keep-telling-us-about-kevin-spacey-s-aggressive-1686507320

Even people on Reddit had stories about him
https://np.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/6anq9d/watching_nine_lives_with_my_kid_is_kevin_spacey/dhgfy4h/
Kevin Spacey loves to meet straight men at parties and events, and use his celebrity to lure them to after parties where he gets them drunk and high, and then suddenly tries to blow them. He's another Bill Cosby. He's well known in Hollywood for harassing male staff on productions. And he famously made a false police report a few years back after he was assaulted by one of the many men he's tried to blow. He picks his victims perfectly, because what straight man would want to be famous worldwide for accusing Kevin Spacey of a sexual assault? And the staff he harasses on productions are too afraid of destroying their careers to say anything. Kevin Spacey is a disgusting scumbag.


I mean at this point where there's smoke...
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