Current Events > John Kelly is now defending slavery and the murder of Native Americans.

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darkjedilink
10/31/17 12:17:17 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Southernfatman posted...
And I'm sure what he means by "compromise" is the typical Republican view of compromise which is give one side (them) everything they want while the other side has to shut up and take it.

Yep. It's just like when ACA was passed with compromises and then the Dems had to compromise to keep it alive a few times, and then when the Republicans tried to shut down the government to defund it, people were saying "Why can't Democrats just compromise with them?"

Yeah, the ACA had so many compromises, zero Republicans voted for it, and nobody who wasn't involved in writing it even knew what all was in it until months after it passed.

Smh.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/31/17 12:20:39 PM
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He sounds like he could use some death penalty right about now
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Solar_Crimson
10/31/17 1:36:04 PM
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Zikten
10/31/17 1:36:26 PM
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what he said about loyalty to state is true. even the people in the north were loyal to their state above the country. it's just that their state chose the union. state was more important than nation back then
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Antifar
10/31/17 1:50:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
state was more important than nation back then

Thousands of Virginians, hundreds of thousands of Southerners said otherwise.
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Zikten
10/31/17 1:53:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
Thousands of Virginians, hundreds of thousands of Southerners said otherwise.

they were the exception. there were more that were loyal
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Balrog0
10/31/17 1:59:16 PM
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Antifar posted...
Zikten posted...
state was more important than nation back then

Thousands of Virginians, hundreds of thousands of Southerners said otherwise.


we literally have a whole state that only exists because they refused to secede from the union
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Zenithian Legend
10/31/17 3:51:33 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
He's not wrong, in a way

Everyone was doing crazy fucking shit in the past. Americans have become (ToS revokes free speech)

If you actually believe this, then you're an idiot.
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Dash_Harber
10/31/17 9:56:28 PM
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Callixtus posted...

Why aren't the French up in arms in anger against Julius Caesar? He ravaged their country, killed potentially hundreds of thousands, if not a million of them, and established colonialism that would last for hundreds of years?


Nope, you are wrong. That would be the Gauls. The French culture is actually a combination of Latin culture (That of Rome) and Frankish culture (you know, the culture that French gets it's name from?). The Gauls are closer to the Celts. The Franks migrated to the area much later, and actually contributed to the fall of Rome due to an increased decentralization of Roman power and the continued increased influence of the Catholic church before the schism. As a point of fact, the world population was also under 200 million at the time, so millions of dead Gauls is probably a gross overstatement.

If you are going to spout nonsensical comparisons, at least study up first. The fact is that there are clear ramification for people still living today is undeniable (for a point of reference, Canada still had residential schools until the 90's). The fact that they are one of the few populations in the world that literally has no claim to the territory that they held for thousands of years is undeniable. The fact that both forced re-education, blatantly false treaties, and biological warfare were used by a 'modern' democracy that also claimed to be anti-imperialist is also undeniable. If you want to be blissfully ignorant of historical fact and sociological data, that is your choice, but please, don't spread it on here.
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