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Akagami_Shanks
10/30/17 5:25:01 PM
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Remember in Z when he was a lot more serious? Now in Super he's pretty much a caricature of himself. It's like he reverted back to being a 12 year old again.
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_BlueMonk
10/30/17 5:25:54 PM
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you know what, ive watched so much DBZ Abridged, i just started remembering Goku as a dummy lol..
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Villain
10/30/17 5:26:47 PM
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CTE
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boxington
10/30/17 5:26:47 PM
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he's been a shitty character for a long while
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Chama
10/30/17 5:27:05 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
caricature

There's your answer.
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BlackHorse6969
10/30/17 5:27:11 PM
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its cuz of the japanese voice acting
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Back_Stabbath
10/30/17 5:27:44 PM
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he's a country hick with a traumatic brain injury. his japanese voice acting has always reflected this and the english subs are only just now starting to do the same.
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darkphoenix181
10/30/17 5:28:27 PM
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english VA didn't do the material justice and painted Goku as a mature adult instead of what he was supposed to be
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yusiko
10/30/17 5:28:34 PM
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his english voice sounds more mature than the character actually is
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Akagami_Shanks
10/30/17 5:28:57 PM
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would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight? Or bother the god of everything to start a tournament despite being warned by several people that it's a bad idea?
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boxington
10/30/17 5:30:06 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight? Or bother the god of everything to start a tournament despite being warned by several people that it's a bad idea?

didn't he give Cell a sensu bean?

fighting> everything else to Goku
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gamepimp12
10/30/17 5:30:50 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight? Or bother the god of everything to start a tournament despite being warned by several people that it's a bad idea?


The American Goku no

The actual Goku yes

American Goku was model after Superman which is why its so jarring for some people for Goku to not be some upstanding moral guy.
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darkphoenix181
10/30/17 5:31:06 PM
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boxington posted...
didn't he give Cell a sensu bean?


yes

and he let Frieza go
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Villain
10/30/17 5:31:47 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight? Or bother the god of everything to start a tournament despite being warned by several people that it's a bad idea?


He did it when he was 18 when he fought Piccolo Jr and gave him a senzu.
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Akagami_Shanks
10/30/17 5:36:18 PM
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he let freeza go after he was no longer a threat, and pretty much assumed he would float endlessly in space if the explosion didn't kill him.

He gave Cell a sensu bean so he could have a fair fight with Gohan, theres no telling what cell would have done otherwise.

The piccolo thing was weird. But Super Goku seems downright suicidal. Z goku for the most part didn't work outside his limits.

I watched DBZ in Japanese too and he wasn't as dumb as Super
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Sir Will
10/30/17 5:36:28 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight?

As said, yes. Multiple times.

Akagami_Shanks posted...
theres no telling what cell would have done otherwise

wut
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Pepys Monster
10/30/17 5:40:49 PM
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I hate character regression. Goku is supposed to be full of wisdom.
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K181
10/30/17 5:41:07 PM
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Villain posted...
CTE


This. Dude's clearly got a case of brain damage.
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ssj3vegeta2
10/30/17 5:42:15 PM
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Because that's what the young folk are into now, dey like goofy dumb wacky stuff lol
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Kaname_Madoka
10/30/17 5:42:29 PM
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K181 posted...
Villain posted...
CTE


This. Dude's clearly got a case of brain damage.

I mean he does. That's the main reason he didn't take over Earth like he was intended.
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darkphoenix181
10/30/17 5:43:13 PM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Because that's what the young folk are into now, dey like goofy dumb wacky stuff lol


you are just bitter goku is better than you
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Sir Will
10/30/17 5:43:13 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Goku is supposed to be full of wisdom.

Based on what?
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Pepys Monster
10/30/17 5:48:45 PM
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Sir Will posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
Goku is supposed to be full of wisdom.

Based on what?

Years of finding a way to save the Earth/universe. He always comes up with something.
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lightwarrior78
10/30/17 5:55:15 PM
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Dragonball was a very early attempt to bring over anime and as such had of extensive edits and rewrites to appeal to American audiences / network execs. Re-releases have fixed a lot of it, but Goku's rewriten character has been kept. I guess Super is doing some things that can't be written around. Not that it was completely avoided in Z. Son "I'm holding back against Buu so Vegita can have a turn" Goku.
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ThePrinceFish
10/30/17 5:58:09 PM
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Meanwhile in the manga vs ape Vegeta

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Blue_Inigo
10/30/17 6:00:21 PM
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Remember when the Z Warriors could have used the Dragon Balls to find the androids before they were a threat but Goku and Vegeta said fuck that?
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Howl
10/30/17 6:07:33 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
Z goku for the most part didn't work outside his limits.


He literally mentioned working outside his limits in order to get more powerful several times in Z. Like when he was doing gravity training on the way to Namely and he accidently set to meter to 100X Earths gravity and then just decided to work out in that setting afterward.
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creativerealms
10/30/17 6:13:17 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
would the 23 year old+ goku of Z ever endanger lives by putting a hit on himself just to get a good fight? Or bother the god of everything to start a tournament despite being warned by several people that it's a bad idea?


The American Goku no

The actual Goku yes

American Goku was model after Superman which is why its so jarring for some people for Goku to not be some upstanding moral guy.
Outside having a more mature voice really he wasn't. At least not once Funimation took over.
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Makeveli_lives
10/30/17 6:29:36 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
english VA didn't do the material justice and painted Goku as a mature adult instead of what he was supposed to be

this. Toriyama said he never intended him to be as heroic as he ended up.
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mehmeh1
10/30/17 6:35:03 PM
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the bigger problem is that, while both s and z goku are quite selfish at many times, s goku acts way dumber, especially early on
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