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UnholyMudcrab
10/30/17 3:53:44 PM
#151:


Congratulations on 150 posts of lively and productive discussion, everyone
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 3:53:46 PM
#152:


Samurontai posted...
You consider this to be a minor inconvenience?


Less than that actually. As it will result in nothing.
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JosefuJustice11
10/30/17 3:54:11 PM
#153:


@JoeyBowey
@Caution998

Read the substance of Samurontai's post below:

Samurontai posted...

They're saying that this is the first of many that are going down, which will fuck Trump in the end. You realize these are the firsts of many arrests, right?


Do you honestly believe without a doubt that the rest of those who will be arrested are going to withhold any information that furthe connects and/or incriminates Trump instead of saving their own ass if immunity or lesser sentence is offered?
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 3:55:01 PM
#154:


Trump doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who inspires the loyalty of the people who work for him
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Samurontai
10/30/17 3:55:37 PM
#155:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
You consider this to be a minor inconvenience?


Less than that actually. As it will result in nothing.


But it's already resulted in something so....
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 3:56:12 PM
#156:


JosefuJustice11 posted...
Do you honestly believe without a doubt that the rest of those who will be arrested are going to withhold any information that furthe connects and/or incriminates Trump instead of saving their own ass if immunity or lesser sentence is offered?


That would require them to actually have information that connects or incriminates Trump. Remains to be seen.
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Samurontai
10/30/17 3:57:51 PM
#157:


JoeyBowey posted...
JosefuJustice11 posted...
Do you honestly believe without a doubt that the rest of those who will be arrested are going to withhold any information that furthe connects and/or incriminates Trump instead of saving their own ass if immunity or lesser sentence is offered?


That would require them to actually have information that connects or incriminates Trump. Remains to be seen.


I mean they already have information that connects Trump (either indirectly or directly is up for interpretation I guess) so I mean....
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Waluigi7
10/30/17 3:58:01 PM
#158:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Congratulations on 150 posts of lively and productive discussion, everyone

It's what happens when you tag Caution.

He only does this shit for attention.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 3:58:32 PM
#159:


Samurontai posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
You consider this to be a minor inconvenience?


Less than that actually. As it will result in nothing.


But it's already resulted in something so....


Not as it relates to Donald Trump, sooooooooo...
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Zero_Destroyer
10/30/17 3:59:12 PM
#160:


JoeyBowey posted...

To come up with that interpretation is to pretend to be a mind reader.


Not... really? It's pretty easy to understand the idea of "Trump-campaign involved people being arrested = Trump is fucked". It doesn't imply the timeline (whether immediate or long term) at all.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 3:59:14 PM
#161:


Samurontai posted...
I mean they already have information that connects Trump (either indirectly or directly is up for interpretation I guess) so I mean....


Then he would be up for impeachment before the end of the day.

OH WAIT.

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NadYobWoc
10/30/17 3:59:24 PM
#162:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
You consider this to be a minor inconvenience?


Less than that actually. As it will result in nothing.


But it's already resulted in something so....


Not as it relates to Donald Trump, sooooooooo...

Errr
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NadYobWoc
10/30/17 4:00:19 PM
#163:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
I mean they already have information that connects Trump (either indirectly or directly is up for interpretation I guess) so I mean....


Then he would be up for impeachment before the end of the day.

OH WAIT.

lol.

Further proving you have no concept of how any of this works.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:00:30 PM
#164:


Zero_Destroyer posted...

Not... really? It's pretty easy to understand the idea of "Trump-campaign involved people being arrested = Trump is fucked". It doesn't imply the timeline (whether immediate or long term) at all.


I never said anything about time line. It does imply an immediate correlation, a correlation that now both the TC ans Sam deny.
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Samurontai
10/30/17 4:00:39 PM
#165:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
I mean they already have information that connects Trump (either indirectly or directly is up for interpretation I guess) so I mean....


Then he would be up for impeachment before the end of the day.

OH WAIT.

lol.


No he wouldn't...? That's not how this works.
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Zero_Destroyer
10/30/17 4:01:30 PM
#167:


JoeyBowey posted...
It does imply an immediate correlation,


How?
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:02:15 PM
#168:


Samurontai posted...

No he wouldn't...? That's not how this works.


Yes it does. If there is actual evidence that Trump is connected to Russian collusion a vote for impeachment would begin immediately. impeachment <> criminal conviction.

But hey maybe give the investigation another 1.5 years and you'll have something. I'm sure of it, lol.
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Heineken14
10/30/17 4:03:07 PM
#169:


JoeyBowey posted...
If there is actual evidence that Trump is connected to Russian collusion a vote for impeachment would begin immediately.


You must have more faith in Congress than I.
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Samurontai
10/30/17 4:04:17 PM
#170:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...

No he wouldn't...? That's not how this works.


Yes it does. If there is actual evidence that Trump is connected to Russian collusion a vote for impeachment would begin immediately. impeachment <> criminal conviction.

But hey maybe give the investigation another 1.5 years and you'll have something. I'm sure of it, lol.


The articles of impeachment have already been thrown in front of congress plenty of times before today, so not necessarily
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:06:00 PM
#171:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
It does imply an immediate correlation,


How?


>Trump is fucked

>Posts one event, doesn't mention it being a catalyst for other events.

Like I said, for you to believe TC's intention would require mind reading. Looking solely at the substance of the post, that is exactly what is being said.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:07:34 PM
#172:


Samurontai posted...
The articles of impeachment have already been thrown in front of congress plenty of times before today, so not necessarily


Did you read those bogus articles. They cite bigotry and racism as cause for impeachment. Not Collusion.
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Zero_Destroyer
10/30/17 4:08:01 PM
#173:


JoeyBowey posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
It does imply an immediate correlation,


How?


>Trump is fucked

>Posts one event, doesn't mention it being a catalyst for other events.

Like I said, for you to believe TC's intention would require mind reading. Looking solely at the substance of the post, that is exactly what is being said.


That one event leading to other events (e.g. the event being a catalyst) is a very common assumption across a lot of social media at the moment and appears to be the extrapolation of most liberals (including myself) on places like CE and 261. It doesn't require mind reading at all. You're just carrying on the argument because you, I suppose, just want to argue with people.
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Samurontai
10/30/17 4:08:07 PM
#174:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
The articles of impeachment have already been thrown in front of congress plenty of times before today, so not necessarily


Did you read those bogus articles. They cite bigotry and racism as cause for impeachment. Not Collusion.


That's kind of my point
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NadYobWoc
10/30/17 4:09:29 PM
#175:


JoeyBowey posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
It does imply an immediate correlation,


How?


>Trump is fucked

>Posts one event, doesn't mention it being a catalyst for other events.

Like I said, for you to believe TC's intention would require mind reading. Looking solely at the substance of the post, that is exactly what is being said.

I explained my intention 3 times bud you're just repeatedly ignoring it.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:09:50 PM
#176:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
That one event leading to other events (e.g. the event being a catalyst) is a very common assumption


There you have it. Glad we agree. Your interpretation of the TC's post relies on assumption and mind reading.

If you read it objectively and solely on the basis of its content then it means exactly what I said.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:10:48 PM
#177:


Samurontai posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
The articles of impeachment have already been thrown in front of congress plenty of times before today, so not necessarily


Did you read those bogus articles. They cite bigotry and racism as cause for impeachment. Not Collusion.


That's kind of my point


If anything, it supports my point. Articles of impeachment could be drawn up at any time, and yet they haven't... because there is no evidence.

If this latest event is truly the blockbuster event that you imply it is then they would be drawn up citing this instance specifically.
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NadYobWoc
10/30/17 4:11:06 PM
#178:


JoeyBowey posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
That one event leading to other events (e.g. the event being a catalyst) is a very common assumption


There you have it. Glad we agree. Your interpretation of the TC's post relies on assumption and mind reading.

If you read it objectively and solely on the basis of its content then it means exactly what I said.

Keep saying it man everyone will eventually agree.
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JosefuJustice11
10/30/17 4:11:52 PM
#179:


JoeyBowey posted...
Samurontai posted...
I mean they already have information that connects Trump (either indirectly or directly is up for interpretation I guess) so I mean....


Then he would be up for impeachment before the end of the day.

OH WAIT.

lol.

What's likely happening here is Mueller is taking as long as he needs to tie up all the loose ends then submit the complete report of his findings to Congress and let them decide what to do with it.

Given Trump's history of making enemies it doesn't seem as if that would bode to well for him and his staff.
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daftpunk_mk5
10/30/17 4:13:41 PM
#180:


Keith_Valentine posted...
Know what's gonna happen?

Jack shit.


Hopefully. Cause this is still boyscout tier compared to the shit Clinton did.
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Zero_Destroyer
10/30/17 4:13:53 PM
#181:


JoeyBowey posted...
There you have it. Glad we agree. Your interpretation of the TC's post relies on assumption and mind reading.


Mind reading implies that an attempt to understand the meaning or intent behind his post would be difficult, but it isn't. Correct assumptions are easy to make with the appropriate context, and certainly doesn't require the mystical power of mind reading.

My interpretation of TC's post is based on the common agreement (a high probability decision) of people who carry a similar political platform, and the same sentiment has been explained to you numerous times by TC and other people besides me. The only person here who seems to be confused is you - and you seem to believe you understand other people better than themselves.

Considering your karma to AMP rate, I'm going to assume you're a troll and stop feeding you.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:14:05 PM
#182:


JosefuJustice11 posted...
What's likely happening here is Mueller is taking as long as he needs to tie up all the loose ends then submit the complete report of his findings to Congress and let them decide what to do with it.


lol people have been saying this for 1.5 years.
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Waluigi7
10/30/17 4:16:10 PM
#183:


daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Keith_Valentine posted...
Know what's gonna happen?

Jack shit.


Hopefully. Cause this is still boyscout tier compared to the shit Clinton did.

Clinton isn't president.
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NadYobWoc
10/30/17 4:17:32 PM
#184:


JoeyBowey posted...
JosefuJustice11 posted...
What's likely happening here is Mueller is taking as long as he needs to tie up all the loose ends then submit the complete report of his findings to Congress and let them decide what to do with it.


lol people have been saying this for 1.5 years.

People have been talking about about Muellers investigation, which has existed for a little over half a year, for a year and a half? Man, that is impressive.
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JoeyBowey
10/30/17 4:18:17 PM
#185:


NadYobWoc posted...
JoeyBowey posted...
JosefuJustice11 posted...
What's likely happening here is Mueller is taking as long as he needs to tie up all the loose ends then submit the complete report of his findings to Congress and let them decide what to do with it.


lol people have been saying this for 1.5 years.

People have been talking about about Muellers investigation, which has existed for a little over half a year, for a year and a half? Man, that is impressive.


Been living under a rock?

They've been talking about it since Comey was director.
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Sayoria
10/30/17 4:19:45 PM
#187:


My political science professor claims nothing will come out of this and she's a liberal. She stated that this is kind of a thing that really doesn't effect Trump directly and that this will only send out a strong warning to others out there like Manafort.
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Anteaterking
10/30/17 4:38:42 PM
#188:


Sayoria posted...
My political science professor claims nothing will come out of this and she's a liberal. She stated that this is kind of a thing that really doesn't effect Trump directly and that this will only send out a strong warning to others out there like Manafort.


A warning for what exactly?
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Sayoria
10/30/17 4:40:27 PM
#189:


Anteaterking posted...
Sayoria posted...
My political science professor claims nothing will come out of this and she's a liberal. She stated that this is kind of a thing that really doesn't effect Trump directly and that this will only send out a strong warning to others out there like Manafort.


A warning for what exactly?


That others unregistered with the US will also be targeted.
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Dampproof
10/30/17 4:53:38 PM
#190:


Sayoria posted...
My political science professor claims nothing will come out of this and she's a liberal. She stated that this is kind of a thing that really doesn't effect Trump directly and that this will only send out a strong warning to others out there like Manafort.


On or about March 31, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS attended a "national security meeting" in Washington, D.C., with then-candidate Trump and other foreign policy advisors for the Campaign. When defendant PAPADOPOULOS introduced himself to the group, he stated, in sum and substance, that he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between then-candidate Trump and President Putin.

doesn't effect Trump directly


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Caution998
10/30/17 4:55:30 PM
#191:


It's not illegal to arrange a meeting with Putin. They could've talked about Video games for all we know.
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Dampproof
10/30/17 4:59:31 PM
#192:


Caution998 posted...
It's not illegal to arrange a meeting with Putin. They could've talked about Video games for all we know.


Lets say that Trump doesnt get impeached by this whole thing. The fact that Trump is a traitor to the USA and was bought/paid for by Russia of all countries would you still wear your red MAGA hat with pride?
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DawkinsNumber4
10/30/17 5:00:44 PM
#193:


Caution998 posted...
It's not illegal to arrange a meeting with Putin. They could've talked about Video games for all we know.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0ZlSbVWQg


Secret footage from their meeting.
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Caution998
10/30/17 5:04:25 PM
#194:


Dampproof posted...
Caution998 posted...
It's not illegal to arrange a meeting with Putin. They could've talked about Video games for all we know.


Lets say that Trump doesnt get impeached by this whole thing. The fact that Trump is a traitor to the USA and was bought/paid for by Russia of all countries would you still wear your red MAGA hat with pride?


No, I would separate myself from that, Lol. I would condemn anyone that was a traitor to the country (like how I condemn Hillary :P)

Fact of the matter is that presidential candidates meet with foreign leaders all the time. It depends on what they were talking about - that would be the area of concern, there. If they planned something, then yeah, we got trouble.

If not, nothing illegal happened.
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Dampproof
10/30/17 5:12:05 PM
#195:


Caution998 posted...
Fact of the matter is that presidential candidates meet with foreign leaders all the time. It depends on what they were talking about - that would be the area of concern, there. If they planned something, then yeah, we got trouble.

If not, nothing illegal happened.


That is pretty much what Mueller is going to have to prove to really get the support for anything to happen.

But the point I want to make is that this has been inconsistent from Trump what exactly Russia did or not do with this election. It has gone from not having any contact to private meetings in Trump Tower.

So far all they got is Trump team setting up to buy some dirt on Hilary. This is just the beginning though so I do agree its a little early to be celebrating when its just the first moves by Mueller.
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Axiom
10/30/17 5:16:19 PM
#196:


Hahahahahahahaha

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Trump should have thought twice about committing treason
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littlebro07
10/30/17 5:20:39 PM
#197:


I skimmed through everything after page 2

Are we still arguing about what "Trump is fucked" means or is there any new information
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 5:22:28 PM
#198:


Axiom posted...
Hahahahahahahaha

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Trump should have thought twice about committing treason


Treason can only be committed in wartime.
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booboy
10/30/17 5:25:25 PM
#199:


Ammonitida posted...
Axiom posted...
Hahahahahahahaha

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Trump should have thought twice about committing treason


Treason can only be committed in wartime.


While this is true, don't rule out the possibility of him going to prison and having most/all of his assets frozen and/or seized.
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Capn Circus
10/30/17 5:28:51 PM
#200:


So out of all this time we have:

Two guys potentially doing something illegal years ago (long before Trump) that involves finance.

And one guy ONLY charged with lying, whose been cooperating with Mueller since July and no other people indicted after months of cooperation

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Keith_Valentine
10/30/17 5:44:49 PM
#201:


The way anti-Trump people get worked up over this shit is pathetic. Every week it's some new 'scandal' that's going to bring him down. Nothing fuckin happens. And everyone is so distracted by bullshit, nothing actually changes or improves for the People.

Why dont they shut up about the investigation until it's over? When they actually have something.

Same shit with Bill CLinton . All that time money and bullshit, and in the end they got him for getting a bj. Like anyone gives a rats ass. And ol Newt was so proud to to nail him for that indecency. Hey.. didn't Newt leave his fucking wife while she was dying of cancer, so he could fuck a staffer? They're all pigs. Good ol boy John Edwards, couldn't stop fucking his mistress while his wife was dying either. Horrible people
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