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MachoManSavage
10/30/17 12:49:57 AM
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It's terrifying to think.

Back then, it was hot when you and the girl got drunk and fucked.

Now, it's a rape charge pending.

I ask because a girl started hitting on me at my bar. She had some drinks. All my co-workers then told me bad shit could happen if you made a move and she regrets it the morning after.

What do you guys think? And since I don't drink and most women do, am I screwed? Where do I find a girl? AA?
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RE_expert44
10/30/17 12:51:30 AM
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Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.
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APM
10/30/17 12:52:09 AM
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Yes, according to liberals.
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Mike_Stanton
10/30/17 12:53:14 AM
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Not gonna be that guy who links to last night's topic about the same thing.
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lordofmud
10/30/17 12:55:09 AM
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If I was still dating I swear I would set up a camera in my bedroom. Not for revenge but just to cover my ass on the next morning regret.

Seriously, Wifi camera like Nest. If it's your place or you are renting you are totally within your rights to film your own residence inside (says the guy with no legal training).
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metralo
10/30/17 12:55:38 AM
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ah, another boogeyman that people are afraid of for no reason
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MachoManSavage
10/30/17 12:56:18 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.


Yet if you reject drunk sex you are either a pussy or gay.

The girl last night was sure I was gay because I didn't want to sex her.
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Bad_Mojo
10/30/17 12:56:46 AM
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This is one of the many reasons why I never make a move on any woman I see and the reason why I'm forever alone
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MachoManSavage
10/30/17 12:59:56 AM
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metralo posted...
ah, another boogeyman that people are afraid of for no reason


Haha maybe.

Or maybe I had an acquaintance lose his business, money, friends, everything for having sex with a girl who regretted it (conviently when her boyfriend found one). She later admitted to it not be completely accurate. Dudes life is still pretty much over.

It's a legit thing man. Social climate is definitely turning.
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hollow_shrine
10/30/17 1:00:59 AM
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MachoManSavage posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.


Yet if you reject drunk sex you are either a pussy or gay.

The girl last night was sure I was gay because I didn't want to sex her.

It sounds like your girl has some low key narcissism issues and you could do better with less crazy. Don't internalize other people's damage. Most of us have our hands full just keeping ourselves right.
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Unsugarized_Foo
10/30/17 1:01:04 AM
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Kp6RN00
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KingArthur3D
10/30/17 1:01:06 AM
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Grab em by the pussy
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metralo
10/30/17 1:01:20 AM
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MachoManSavage posted...
metralo posted...
ah, another boogeyman that people are afraid of for no reason


Haha maybe.

Or maybe I had an acquaintance lose his business, money, friends, everything for having sex with a girl who regretted it (conviently when her boyfriend found one). She later admitted to it not be completely accurate. Dudes life is still pretty much over.

It's a legit thing man. Social climate is definitely turning.


this still isn't something to be scared of as it almost never happens
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MachoManSavage
10/30/17 1:04:07 AM
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metralo posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
metralo posted...
ah, another boogeyman that people are afraid of for no reason


Haha maybe.

Or maybe I had an acquaintance lose his business, money, friends, everything for having sex with a girl who regretted it (conviently when her boyfriend found one). She later admitted to it not be completely accurate. Dudes life is still pretty much over.

It's a legit thing man. Social climate is definitely turning.


this still isn't something to be scared of as it almost never happens


You're right. But people fear stuff that "might" happen.

If I had a friend die in a plane accident, I'd be afraid of flying in planes.

Scratch that. I'm already terrified of planes.

hollow_shrine posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.


Yet if you reject drunk sex you are either a pussy or gay.

The girl last night was sure I was gay because I didn't want to sex her.

It sounds like your girl has some low key narcissism issues and you could do better with less crazy. Don't internalize other people's damage. Most of us have our hands full just keeping ourselves right.


I don't blame her though. I usually don't blame the individual. I'm a firm believer in our thoughts being the product of the whole. Women are led to believe this things socially.

Men need to fuck or else something is wrong. Women are allowed to say yes or no.

For better or worse, that's how it is.
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MuayThai85
10/30/17 1:05:14 AM
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If it is, I've technically raped I don't even know how many girls and have been raped myself a few times. It's a joke if two adults who are both impaired and take part in consensual sex that the man is suddenly a rapist if she regrets it the next morning, even if she initiated it.

Have I ever taken of a black out drunk person for sex? No. Have I had sex with girls who were drunk while I was also drinking? Yes. Have I had sex with girls while personally black out drunk and not remembering anything? Yes, pn more than one occasion. One of which I actually did legit regret, partially because I woke up with my unprotected penis inside her still, fluid dripping down my leg while she was sleeping on top of me. But also because she was someone I didn't like and she knew that, but she kept flirting with me (she was a bit drunk but not hammered drunk) and invited me back to her place.I don't remember anything until I woke up with her still on me. If I went and reported that to the police, I would be laughed at but if the positions were reversed I'd be in jail.
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ExtremeLuchador
10/31/17 7:05:08 AM
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There's married couples that don't even have sex anymore unless drinking is involved.
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_Goggalor_
10/31/17 7:07:22 AM
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Drunk? No. Passed out or so inebriated they can barely function? Of course.
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Mofuji
10/31/17 7:08:31 AM
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Always have a consent form on hand.
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ShotgunSilencer
10/31/17 7:49:43 AM
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Ya know, back in my day we got drunk at parties, made out with girls, and it sometimes led to sex. Sometimes it was great, sometimes you regretted your choices the next day. But it wasnt ever any rape accusations. It was just we were drunk, that probably wasnt the best idea, lets move on and forget it
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Chicken
10/31/17 7:56:12 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
This is one of the many reasons why I never make a move on any woman I see and the reason why I'm forever alone

Forever alone.

Forever safe.
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EdgeMaster
10/31/17 8:00:24 AM
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Depends on county and state laws, in my state you can't give consent while intoxicated so it's null and avoid, or rape.

RE_expert44 posted...
Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.


This is how it can play out though.

Obviously don't have sex with blackout out girls who can't walk straight but youre probably pretty safe to have sex with a chick who's had a few drinks with you but is alert and coherent.
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DawkinsNumber4
10/31/17 8:13:17 AM
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lordofmud posted...
If I was still dating I swear I would set up a camera in my bedroom. Not for revenge but just to cover my ass on the next morning regret.

Seriously, Wifi camera like Nest. If it's your place or you are renting you are totally within your rights to film your own residence inside (says the guy with no legal training).


In my state you cannot surreptitiously record anyone in a state of undress even if you own the place.
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Zodd3224
10/31/17 8:16:30 AM
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LoL. Why does CE hate women? Are there only bitter incels left here???
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action52
10/31/17 8:22:08 AM
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Even if it's not rape, shouldn't you not do it? I feel like you're setting the bar way too low if whether or not it's rape is a real concern. I don't have one night stands with drunk girls because I don't want to do something they'll regret later. I want to avoid making them feel bad even if this means I have to wait a little bit to have sex sometimes.

Am I a pussy or a "mangina" or something because I do this? Whatever.
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Jiggy101011
10/31/17 8:23:40 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
This is one of the many reasons why I never make a move on any woman I see and the reason why I'm forever alone


Hang on, you never make a move on a woman because you think she will call rape? That's insane.
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Mofuji
10/31/17 4:58:18 PM
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If it's insane to be safe, then insanity is a good idea.
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Zikten
10/31/17 5:01:22 PM
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it's so dumb. if both are drunk, the man raped the woman

if only the man is drunk, he raped the woman

if the woman is drunk, he raped the woman

there is no outcome where he didn't rape the woman
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Axiom
10/31/17 5:06:09 PM
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It's always depended on how drunk they are. Pretty easy to tell just from how the girl is acting if it's a good idea or not. I've never had a problem with it
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DarkChozoGhost
10/31/17 5:15:37 PM
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If you have sex with a blackout drunk girl, it is.

Unfortunately, that means a hard line has to be drawn in order to protect their rights, and that hard line has to err on the side of caution. As a result, encounters that should be considered consensual can't be from a legal perspective.

But rape charges are actually difficult to convict on. Despite what redpills and the like try to tell you, there are more rapists that get away with it than innocent men that get charged with rape.
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gguirao
10/31/17 6:07:25 PM
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If she isn't in her right mind enough to consent, yes.
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WaffIeElite
10/31/17 6:22:24 PM
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metralo posted...
MachoManSavage posted...
metralo posted...
ah, another boogeyman that people are afraid of for no reason


Haha maybe.

Or maybe I had an acquaintance lose his business, money, friends, everything for having sex with a girl who regretted it (conviently when her boyfriend found one). She later admitted to it not be completely accurate. Dudes life is still pretty much over.

It's a legit thing man. Social climate is definitely turning.


this still isn't something to be scared of as it almost never happens


Only the dumbest of motherfuckers would use this logic. You base risk upon Severity + Likelihood. A life ruining event is ALWAYS worth worrying about.
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MuayThai85
10/31/17 11:59:41 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
If you have sex with a blackout drunk girl, it is.

Unfortunately, that means a hard line has to be drawn in order to protect their rights, and that hard line has to err on the side of caution. As a result, encounters that should be considered consensual can't be from a legal perspective.

But rape charges are actually difficult to convict on. Despite what redpills and the like try to tell you, there are more rapists that get away with it than innocent men that get charged with rape.


Yes but the innocent men who are charged with it usually have their lives ruined regardless of winning or losing the case.
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Keith_Valentine
11/01/17 12:04:13 AM
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MachoManSavage posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Never have drunk sex. If she regrets it, then it is rape. Even if you were both drunk, the man is at fault.


Yet if you reject drunk sex you are either a pussy or gay.

The girl last night was sure I was gay because I didn't want to sex her.


You said you were a girl in another topic. ??
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JimmyJumper6
11/01/17 12:05:58 AM
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Drunk sex is the best sex bro, they get kinky asf

Only time Ive ever went from ass straight to mouth. It was glorious tbh
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Bad_Mojo
11/01/17 12:06:12 AM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
This is one of the many reasons why I never make a move on any woman I see and the reason why I'm forever alone


Hang on, you never make a move on a woman because you think she will call rape? That's insane.


@Jiggy101011

The only women that show interest in me are drunk women. Well, not drunk, just drinking
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NOM
11/01/17 12:07:45 AM
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Only if she regrets it.

If she regrets it, any form of sex with a woman is rape.
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Bad_Mojo
11/01/17 12:08:40 AM
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NOM posted...
Only if she regrets it.

If she regrets it, any form of sex with a woman is rape.


There are even women that believe that a woman can take back her consent the very next day
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