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CensorErik
10/28/17 2:26:27 PM
#51:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
CensorErik posted...
Who pissed in your cereal? You're very upset over a differing view than yours.


I'm not upset, just correcting your errors with facts.

CensorErik posted...
Zelda is a $60 game if you already owned the Switch or a WiiU, but the majority of day one buyers got the Switch and Zelda at the same time. How much did that cost them again?


Again:

Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

Ok, we're done now. Have a better day, man.
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TrevorBlack79
10/28/17 2:54:57 PM
#52:


Thank you! I'm having a great day already, so if it gets even better that would be awesome!
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gamer_boy997
10/29/17 1:40:22 AM
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http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/super-mario-odyssey

Yeah what an awful garbage game!
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darkprince45
10/29/17 1:46:16 AM
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Great game
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Dragonblade01
10/29/17 2:10:58 AM
#55:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

And if the only DVD you were interested in was that single one, then you might not have been willing to spend that money.
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WalkingLobsters
10/29/17 2:21:48 AM
#56:


gamer_boy997 posted...
http://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/super-mario-odyssey

Yeah what an awful garbage game!

you probably think trump is hitler because the media tells you he is.
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MarqueeSeries
10/29/17 2:29:32 AM
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The $360 Zelda comment is kinda stupid though. That would imply that you're only ever going to use your switch to play Zelda, which is highly unlikely
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Dragonblade01
10/29/17 3:04:37 AM
#58:


MarqueeSeries posted...
The $360 Zelda comment is kinda stupid though. That would imply that you're only ever going to use your switch to play Zelda, which is highly unlikely

Sure, but not everyone wants to put down $300 on a maybe.
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WonkyKong
10/29/17 3:08:19 AM
#59:


Ill say it again.

If you dont like Mario Odyssey, I can guarantee you are a miserable, bitter ass person in real life with a horrible personality.
That is the only explanation.
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TrevorBlack79
10/29/17 3:37:04 AM
#60:


Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

And if the only DVD you were interested in was that single one, then you might not have been willing to spend that money.


Indeed, but why would I want to only watch one movie?
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ModLogic
10/29/17 5:59:44 AM
#61:


WonkyKong posted...
Ill say it again.

If you dont like Mario Odyssey, I can guarantee you are a miserable, bitter ass person in real life with a horrible personality.
That is the only explanation.

or it could just be a shit game
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TheAlphaFalconX
10/29/17 6:18:21 AM
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
WalkingLobsters posted...
YellowSUV posted...
This is disappointing to hear. Is it really difficult to make Mario move again like he did in 64?

breath of the wild had this same issue too. Link controlled really odd. But it's not as big of a deal in zelda games.

are you using a pro controller or the joycon? I noticed the joycon goes from no movement to full tilt very quickly so it feels kinda wonky if you're used to a full sized analog stick

if you're using a pro controller idk tho


JoyCon analog sticks are absolute trash. Like a MadCatz controller you buy used from GameStop. Pro Controller is the completely opposite analog stick experience.
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Dragonblade01
10/29/17 6:22:49 AM
#63:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

And if the only DVD you were interested in was that single one, then you might not have been willing to spend that money.


Indeed, but why would I want to only watch one movie?

Because it's the only movie you're interested in?
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bluezero
10/29/17 6:32:57 AM
#64:


Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

And if the only DVD you were interested in was that single one, then you might not have been willing to spend that money.


Indeed, but why would I want to only watch one movie?

Because it's the only movie you're interested in?

He's either never going to get it, or is arguing for the sake of arguing. This is what all CE topics devolve into: semantics.
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Drrobotniks
10/29/17 7:38:15 AM
#65:


CensorErik posted...
Ok, we're done now. Have a better day, man.

Dont bother with trevor

He doesn't know what opinions are

tag him, and move on
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TrevorBlack79
10/29/17 7:44:08 AM
#66:


Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

And if the only DVD you were interested in was that single one, then you might not have been willing to spend that money.


Indeed, but why would I want to only watch one movie?

Because it's the only movie you're interested in?


Then you wait until there's more you're interested in. I already covered this, in the second paragraph of the first post you quoted here. You conveniently left it out of the quote.
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TrevorBlack79
10/29/17 7:46:13 AM
#67:


Drrobotniks posted...
He doesn't know what opinions are


The MSRP of BotW or any other game is not based on opinion.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 7:53:08 AM
#68:


WonkyKong posted...
Ill say it again.

If you dont like Mario Odyssey, I can guarantee you are a miserable, bitter ass person in real life with a horrible personality.
That is the only explanation.

Excellent post tbh!!!

In all seriousness, the game absolutely fucking oozes creativity and charm. Theres a surprise or hidden Moon around every corner and you are almost always rewarded for taking a chance on ...no way thatll work, but I guess Ill check with a new discovery.

If people want to say they prefer Mario games with stricter level design A-B, I disagree but understand (though the game does have some tough platforming sections). People saying the game is bland, though, are just... wow. I feel badly for them because my only explanation is that they raised their standards to impractical levels or something. Every environment Ive encountered has been jam-packed with creative new gameplay mechanics, vibrant scenery, amusing locals, fun costumes, and at least a few areas that truly caught me off guard.

Games awesome.
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NewerMernardi
10/29/17 7:53:46 AM
#69:


Trevorblack taking it personally lol
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Drrobotniks
10/29/17 7:55:54 AM
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NewerMernardi posted...
Trevorblack taking it personally lol

Yea he's the joke that keeps on joking
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Dragonblade01
10/29/17 7:56:16 AM
#71:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Then you wait until there's more you're interested in. I already covered this, in the second paragraph of the first post you quoted here. You conveniently left it out of the quote.

Exactly, you wait until there's more. Because if you buy a $300 device to play one game that costs $60, then you've effectively spent $360 to play that one game. That's not an investment everyone is willing to make.

And there was no second paragraph to what I quoted.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 8:02:49 AM
#72:


Thing is, Odyssey isnt Galaxy. Its Banjo.

Its a modern day, polished, contemporary Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid. Ive wanted nothing more from the game industry for YEARS and its all I couldve wanted so far. I havent even gotten to New Donk and getting that big hub-like area was maybe the most intriguing part for me.
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ledbowman
10/29/17 8:03:26 AM
#73:


This argument is CE's version of those philosophy dialogues.
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Delirious_Beard
10/29/17 8:23:35 AM
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lmao peeps taking that bait
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the_cajun88
10/29/17 9:12:38 AM
#76:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid.


Are you serious?

I love all four of these games.
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Sada_Pop
10/29/17 9:20:11 AM
#77:


Nintendo fanboys being rabid as always...

Someone doesn't like the newest entry in their precious franchise and its "trolling", "bait", or "contrarian".


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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 9:21:13 AM
#78:


the_cajun88 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid.


Are you serious?

I love all four of these games.

Dead serious. Its a wet dream for me.

Basically the quintessential collectathon platformer with fun locales, quirky citizens, and something hidden around every corner. The Cappy mechanic leads to a lot of Rambi-esque highlights too.
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El Mexicano Texano
10/29/17 9:22:35 AM
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I like the game a lot I don't even use the motion function at all....I don't even see why you need to or how you're forced into using it?
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 9:25:24 AM
#80:


Sada_Pop posted...
Nintendo fanboys being rabid as always...

Someone doesn't like the newest entry in their precious franchise and its "trolling", "bait", or "contrarian".


Nah. Youre allowed to prefer more straightforward A-to-B platformers; it doesnt match Galaxys tightness in that regard, at least not yet.

I will say Im not entirely sure how you can love Sunshine and not be feeling Odyssey, though. Its the most spiritually similar to Sunshine of any Mario game.
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the_cajun88
10/29/17 9:26:20 AM
#81:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
the_cajun88 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid.


Are you serious?

I love all four of these games.

Dead serious. Its a wet dream for me.

Basically the quintessential collectathon platform with fun locales, quirky citizens, and something hidden around every corner.


Sold.
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WonkyKong
10/29/17 9:31:51 AM
#82:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
the_cajun88 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid.


Are you serious?

I love all four of these games.

Dead serious. Its a wet dream for me.

Basically the quintessential collectathon platformer with fun locales, quirky citizens, and something hidden around every corner. The Cappy mechanic leads to a lot of Rambi-esque highlights too.

I actually though this too, got a very Banjo / DK64 vibe too.

This is how the classic 3D platformer should have evolved, just constant enjoyable gameplay and exploration. So good.
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ledbowman
10/29/17 10:05:30 AM
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Yeah it's very much like peak Rare made a Mario game.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 10:11:32 AM
#85:


WonkyKong posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
the_cajun88 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sunshine + SM64 + Banjo + DK64 hybrid.


Are you serious?

I love all four of these games.

Dead serious. Its a wet dream for me.

Basically the quintessential collectathon platformer with fun locales, quirky citizens, and something hidden around every corner. The Cappy mechanic leads to a lot of Rambi-esque highlights too.

I actually though this too, got a very Banjo / DK64 vibe too.

This is how the classic 3D platformer should have evolved, just constant enjoyable gameplay and exploration. So good.

Agreed, and Im a big proponent of there being a place in the world for Galaxy, 3D World, etc. That kind of select level, theres your objective go design where there is precisely one way to get the job done is usually exceptionally tight and rewarding in its own right. They should exist.

What has always baffled me, though, is why DK64/Banjo stayed in the N64 era with the exception of Sunshine. Has there even been a high profile 3D platformer collectathon since Sunshine? Even your Spyros and such have died. I never understood why we are just now finally getting this game; I was desperate enough that I wouldve rushed out on launch day for a Ty the Tasmanian Tiger sequel at this point. Where has this genre been??
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 10:14:15 AM
#86:


Conflict posted...
The issue with that 'hybrid' is that almost all those games are dated (Sunshine being the only one)

I still have faith that it's a good game but I sure as fuck wouldn't want to play Banjo or DK64 in 2017.

Bear in mind its got all the polish youd expect in 2017. Its more spiritually like those games than mechanically.
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TrevorBlack79
10/29/17 10:26:32 AM
#87:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Exactly, you wait until there's more. Because if you buy a $300 device to play one game that costs $60, then you've effectively spent $360 to play that one game. That's not an investment everyone is willing to make.


Whatever you say. I'm done arguing this.

Dragonblade01 posted...
And there was no second paragraph to what I quoted.


Look again:

TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with waiting for a system to have a more substantial library before buying it. Hell, I always wait for a price drop before buying the current Playstation. But the "$360 Zelda" meme is silly for how myopic it is, and got old within the first week of launch. Again, the cost of any console is an investment. The game itself literally costs $60.

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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 10:48:19 AM
#88:


No one cares about the semantics debate anymore
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TrevorBlack79
10/29/17 10:54:36 AM
#89:


I agree, which is why I bowed out of it. I only replied because I wanted to call @Dragonblade01 out on the idiotic claim that the post he quoted didn't have a second paragraph that already covered what he was asking.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 10:57:48 AM
#90:


You bowed out of it by getting in the last word and tagging the guy to make sure he sees.

I agree with you principally but youre coming off like a douche.
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AsucaHayashi
10/29/17 11:00:13 AM
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dunno if the game really sucks but that demo speedrun left me with a bitter taste since the moons were scattered just for the sake of it instead of actually making each of them feel rewarding and hidden behind good game design.

just looked at the wiki and saw a total of 999 moons.

f that s.
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10/29/17 11:02:48 AM
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VerisimiIitude
10/29/17 11:09:22 AM
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Its a good game. Whats holding it back from being the masterpiece people are claiming is the fact that it could stand to be more difficult. Im enjoying it though.
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Dragonblade01
10/29/17 11:17:49 AM
#94:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Look again:

TrevorBlack79 posted...
Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with waiting for a system to have a more substantial library before buying it. Hell, I always wait for a price drop before buying the current Playstation. But the "$360 Zelda" meme is silly for how myopic it is, and got old within the first week of launch. Again, the cost of any console is an investment. The game itself literally costs $60.

What I quoted was from this post:

TrevorBlack79 posted...
CensorErik posted...
Who pissed in your cereal? You're very upset over a differing view than yours.


I'm not upset, just correcting your errors with facts.

CensorErik posted...
Zelda is a $60 game if you already owned the Switch or a WiiU, but the majority of day one buyers got the Switch and Zelda at the same time. How much did that cost them again?


Again:

Sure, in the same way it literally costs everyone $60+(console price) to play any game on a new system. Or how, when I moved out of my parents house, it literally cost me "$800 to watch one dvd" because I bought a TV, DVD player, and one DVD to start my collection.

Which did not have that second paragraph.

Regardless, not everyone is willing to invest in something early. Which is why, to them, getting a Switch for Zelda is like paying $360 for Zelda (because that's all they're interested in, and there's no guarantee they'll be interested in anything else).

You can say that Zelda is only $60 all you want. The fact remains that the person would have been spending $360 exclusively to play Zelda, and that's the investment that some people don't think is worth it.
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SlashmanSG
10/29/17 11:23:31 AM
#95:


WonkyKong posted...
Ill say it again.

If you dont like Mario Odyssey, I can guarantee you are a miserable, bitter ass person in real life with a horrible personality.
That is the only explanation.

I'll say it again.

No one is worse than Nintenyearolds.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/29/17 11:24:04 AM
#96:


VerisimiIitude posted...
Its a good game. Whats holding it back from being the masterpiece people are claiming is the fact that it could stand to be more difficult. Im enjoying it though.

I dunno. When Im really exploring and finding some of these hidden areas for Moons, Ive hit some stumbling blocks and Im only a few kingdoms in. Im hoping for some real strsss late game, but I think Mario should be fairly easy for the main game and challenging for 100%.
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WalkingLobsters
10/29/17 1:36:34 PM
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Lol at comparing this to banjo. Don't ever disrespect banjo like that. Banjo has charm, wit, great music, creative level design, and a large open hub to explore and unlock.

Odyssey is just a linear platform we with levels. Very little music and bland realistic levels.

I give it a month before everyone starts shitting on it. Too many sheep get caught up in the hype.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/29/17 1:38:17 PM
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I'm enjoying Odyssey a lot more now that I'm in the post game, tbqh.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/29/17 1:40:33 PM
#99:


WalkingLobsters posted...
Lol at comparing this to banjo. Don't ever disrespect banjo like that. Banjo has charm, wit, great music, creative level design, and a large open hub to explore and unlock.

Odyssey is just a linear platform we with levels. Very little music and bland realistic levels.

I give it a month before everyone starts shitting on it. Too many sheep get caught up in the hype.


Banjo sucks to me. Maybe because I didn't play it at the time, but I tried to play it a couple years ago, and it controls like ass and all that charm and wit? Annoying as fuck.

Odyssey is fine. While I wish moons were more of an actual challenge to get (like have 300 of them instead of 800, with them being more challenge maps and hard things to execute), it is an enjoyable experience.
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MarqueeSeries
10/29/17 1:44:11 PM
#100:


Sada_Pop posted...
Nintendo fanboys being rabid as always...

Someone doesn't like the newest entry in their precious franchise and its "trolling", "bait", or "contrarian".



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