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Zeeak4444
10/27/17 7:02:30 PM
#52:


darkjedilink posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
LethalAffinity posted...
Because people have grown soft and are fucking crybabies these days.


Which ones?

The ones who get punched in the face for spouting racist shit and then cry? What about all the other supporters who cry about it?

Clearly they're the ones who are soft right?

You do know that most of the people Antifa have actually attacked haven't spouted racist shit, right?

They've attacked THEIR OWN MEMBERS on multiple occasions, and one even stabbed a police horse.

That racist police horse had it coming, right?


My post wasn't in reference to whatever one event your dictating it was. Antifa was never involved with my post. Kindly go crawl back into your hole now.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 7:08:13 PM
#53:


darkjedilink posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
I laughed at "these days." I guess the timeline of complaints start when minority groups started, eh? no time before, eh?

Jim Crow was was literally a product of fragility AND a catalyst for so much more.

You voted for Hillary Clinton, right?


no. now get off my nuts and find a cozy place to shove your confirmation bias.
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darkjedilink
10/27/17 7:12:44 PM
#54:


Zeeak4444 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
LethalAffinity posted...
Because people have grown soft and are fucking crybabies these days.


Which ones?

The ones who get punched in the face for spouting racist shit and then cry? What about all the other supporters who cry about it?

Clearly they're the ones who are soft right?

You do know that most of the people Antifa have actually attacked haven't spouted racist shit, right?

They've attacked THEIR OWN MEMBERS on multiple occasions, and one even stabbed a police horse.

That racist police horse had it coming, right?

My post wasn't in reference to whatever one event your dictating it was. Antifa was never involved with my post. Kindly go crawl back into your hole now.

Then who's punching these racists you're talking about, and why are we never talking about it?
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darkjedilink
10/27/17 7:14:06 PM
#55:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
darkjedilink posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
I laughed at "these days." I guess the timeline of complaints start when minority groups started, eh? no time before, eh?

Jim Crow was was literally a product of fragility AND a catalyst for so much more.

You voted for Hillary Clinton, right?


no. now get off my nuts and find a cozy place to shove your confirmation bias.

Somehow, I doubt that.

Even so, you've defended her numerous times on this site, despite here using actual black slave labor as First Lady of Arkansas, so apparently you're okay with slavery so long as the "right people" are benefiting.

Ironically enough, major players in the party of Jim Crow.
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The Admiral
10/27/17 7:14:13 PM
#56:


Political correctness is the elevation of emotion above reason, so everyone should be against it. Language shouldn't be dictated based on the feelings of people looking for validation through being offended.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 7:15:27 PM
#57:


you're lying and have nothing to back up anything you're saying about me. kindly hop off my nuts, kid.
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darkjedilink
10/27/17 7:17:21 PM
#58:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
you're lying and have nothing to back up anything you're saying about me. kindly hop off my nuts, kid.

Oh? What, exactly, was the lie in my last post?

You've NEVER defended Hillary Clinton this election cycle? Hillary Clinton did NOT use black slave labor from prisons as her personal servants while First Lady of Arkansas? Are Democrats NOT the party that created, passed, and implemented Jim Crow laws?

Every single one of these is true, and you know it.
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Axiom
10/27/17 7:19:23 PM
#59:


darkjedilink posted...
Even so, you've defended her numerous times on this site, despite here using actual black slave labor as First Lady of Arkansas, so apparently you're okay with slavery so long as the "right people" are benefiting.

Not slaves at all. I actually think that using prisoners that way was fucked up but calling them slaves is utterly wrong and you really should stop making up nonsense
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 7:19:54 PM
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your entire post is a fabrication. show proof or understand that it's time to hop off of Slick Dick Rick's nuts
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hockeybub89
10/27/17 7:20:38 PM
#61:


The Admiral posted...
Political correctness is the elevation of emotion above reason, so everyone should be against it. Language shouldn't be dictated based on the feelings of people looking for validation through being offended.

Yeah, cut it out.
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fire810
10/27/17 7:23:05 PM
#62:


GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Because PC goes too far far too frequently.

My god, I am good at making words.


this

I mean have you not seen this godawful liberal authoritarianism (SJWs) these last 10 years? Breathing through the wrong nostril is consider racist, sexist, homophobic, and we need to point it all out!
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 7:24:05 PM
#63:


fire810 posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Because PC goes too far far too frequently.

My god, I am good at making words.


this

I mean have you not seen this godawful liberal authoritarianism (SJWs) these last 10 years? Breathing through the wrong nostril is consider racist, sexist, homophobic, and we need to point it all out!


is this based on your experience in real life or the internet?
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A_Good_Boy
10/27/17 7:24:32 PM
#64:


The Admiral posted...
Political correctness is the elevation of emotion above reason, so everyone should be against it. Language shouldn't be dictated based on the feelings of people looking for validation through being offended.

Hey Addy, mind telling us why you think Trump won again?
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andel
10/27/17 7:48:59 PM
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if you think white people aren't 'allowed' certain hairstyles you are probably an awful person and have no political capital. there is a difference between being a decent person (calling out sexists/racists) and being outraged at mundane things. anyone can wear any hairstyle or dress up as whoever they want for halloween, if you are offended by that it makes you mentally weak
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FaultyGourry
10/27/17 8:02:38 PM
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Political correctness is the lefts version of the rights obsession with obscenity and decency. Think of the children transformed to think of the women/minorities. You're not allowed to talk about race this way. You're not allowed to show sex this way. You're not allowed to joke about other people this way. These select words are off limits. You can scream about how it's about respect until you're blue in the face, but at the end of the day it's an attempt to restrict thought and art because you personally find it objectionable. Which is a very conservative thing to do, by the by.
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Crazyman93
10/27/17 8:10:36 PM
#67:


Political correctness is bad because society needs to hear hate speech so they can recognize what is wrong, because if we don't recognize what is wrong, we can't actually ever know our views are truly right.
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andel
10/27/17 8:11:08 PM
#68:


FaultyGourry posted...
Political correctness is the lefts version of the rights obsession with obscenity and decency. Think of the children transformed to think of the women/minorities. You're not allowed to talk about race this way. You're not allowed to show sex this way. You're not allowed to joke about other people this way. These select words are off limits. You can scream about how it's about respect until you're blue in the face, but at the end of the day it's an attempt to restrict thought and art because you personally find it objectionable. Which is a very conservative thing to do, by the by.


sjw types are often authoritarian, which is conservative at heart. its one thing to advocate for decency, it's another to rage and try and silence people you disagree with. in the united states everyone is entitled to say whatever they want, no matter how offensive, they just aren't immune to the consequences.

a good example of toxic, actual sjws are the evergreen uni types that are absolutely batshit insane...those people will never be respected or have any political power because they are as hateful as the nazis and ultimately on the same end of the spectrum
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Ug1ybass
10/27/17 8:35:45 PM
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Because PC usually equals anti-white.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 8:46:23 PM
#72:


Ug1ybass posted...
Because PC usually equals anti-white.


mind elaborating?
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
10/27/17 8:51:16 PM
#73:


hockeybub89 posted...
Political correctness is only bad if the left does it.

Meanwhile, let me talk about how amoral and disrespectful our society is and demand things go back to the old ways.

Also, you can't say happy holidays because it offends me, but I can say merry christmas because it offends you.
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Iodine
10/27/17 8:51:24 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM72vyXX0AAA-AQ.jpg

Political correctness has done a lot of good tho.
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Fossil
10/27/17 8:54:38 PM
#75:


CiIantro posted...
I mean, if anyone is a "snowflake" it is the people who lose their shit when they cant be overtly racist.

You really don't get outside very much do you
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Hop103
10/27/17 9:00:15 PM
#76:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
it's not just conservatives/white supremacists. i consider myself a Liberal, albeit a moderate one, and I often find myself thinking that sometimes we take PC too far.


I'm a centrist and I think PC has gone crazy, nobody wants to learn all those pronouns.
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GreatEvilEmpire
10/27/17 9:16:00 PM
#77:


Political correctness is dishonest.

An example would be obesity. Instead of talking the reality of the problem...they want to talk about fat acceptance instead, denying the problem and ignoring it. And instead of admitting that over-eating is the main cause of it, they rather blame genetics and be dishonest with themselves.

And there there is a penis and vagina, but let's play pretend instead.
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UncleBourbon33
10/27/17 9:31:29 PM
#78:


The Admiral posted...
Political correctness is the elevation of emotion above reason, so everyone should be against it. Language shouldn't be dictated based on the feelings of people looking for validation through being offended.

P much
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StickFigures720
10/27/17 9:36:23 PM
#79:


BiggLaw posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Political correctness is not a synonym for respect. It's not even near to being the same.

Stop saying that. Stop lying. No one outside your echo-chamber buys that line.


This. 'Nuff said.

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CiIantro
10/27/17 10:10:22 PM
#80:


The Admiral posted...
Political correctness is the elevation of emotion above reason

LOLno, it is the opposite
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2SweetforTurtle
10/27/17 10:14:56 PM
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Firstly, yes I think its bullshit that TC literally just immediately equated conservatives with white supremacists and only like two people have called him out on that. Im literally a half black latino conservative. Im not a fucking racist.

I wholeheartedly hate this belief that people are against PC because they want to be assholes and not get called out. No, its because we dont believe people should be sheltered from anything.

I make fun of SJWs for getting triggered. I too, get triggered. I acknowledge that and laugh about it too. People who take shit too serious on both sides are the real bane of life itself.

However, I believe that PC culture as a whole shouldnt exist. Im not saying that nicer ways of saying things shouldnt exist, Im saying that people should have the freedom to act however they damn well please and face whatever consequences arise from their actions. Thats literally free speech. Free speech doesnt mean that I can shout racist terms at people and nobody should say or do anything. Free speech means that I can be an asshole and other people have the right to call me out on it.

I hate the cultural appropriation bullshit complaints that are happening now over anything else. As Americans, our entire culture is based on being a mix of everything else, brought to us by immigrants and so on. If I were a white dude and wanted to celebrate mexican heritage on halloween, I should be able to dress as a taco. Sure people will get mad, and people will think less of me, but thats the repercussion I have to deal with. However, a little 5 year old girl shouldnt have to deal with being yelled at by some stranger for wanting to dress as the new hit Disney character Moana.

If a black person can cross race boundaries for Halloween and PC people support it, why do they do the opposite for when white people do it?

Its simple imo, everyone should be able to do whatever they want, as tasteful or untasteful as they please. And again, freedom to be an asshole doesnt mean protection from consequences, it just means that people should have the CHOICE above all else.
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CiIantro
10/27/17 10:16:44 PM
#83:


2SweetforTurtle posted...
SJWs

Oh look, that name calling that conservatives can't seem to stop doing.
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CiIantro
10/27/17 10:20:08 PM
#86:


26_Sandman_39 posted...
CiIantro posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...
SJWs

Oh look, that name calling that conservatives can't seem to stop doing.


SJWs exist

In your mind. That was just a name made up for conservatives to try to demonize people they disagree with. As far as I am concerned, using the term SJW discredits anyone's argument.
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A_Good_Boy
10/27/17 10:22:23 PM
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2SweetforTurtle posted...
However, I believe that PC culture as a whole shouldnt exist. Im not saying that nicer ways of saying things shouldnt exist, Im saying that people should have the freedom to act however they damn well please and face whatever consequences arise from their actions. Thats literally free speech. Free speech doesnt mean that I can shout racist terms at people and nobody should say or do anything. Free speech means that I can be an asshole and other people have the right to call me out on it.

You hate PC culture but believe in everything it stands for? I'm not following your objections here.
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andel
10/27/17 10:34:02 PM
#88:


CiIantro posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
CiIantro posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...
SJWs

Oh look, that name calling that conservatives can't seem to stop doing.


SJWs exist

In your mind. That was just a name made up for conservatives to try to demonize people they disagree with. As far as I am concerned, using the term SJW discredits anyone's argument.


your opinion doesn't really matter, you have no political capital. the vast majority of people dismiss people that are offended by mundane things
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2SweetforTurtle
10/27/17 10:36:23 PM
#89:


A_Good_Boy posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...
However, I believe that PC culture as a whole shouldnt exist. Im not saying that nicer ways of saying things shouldnt exist, Im saying that people should have the freedom to act however they damn well please and face whatever consequences arise from their actions. Thats literally free speech. Free speech doesnt mean that I can shout racist terms at people and nobody should say or do anything. Free speech means that I can be an asshole and other people have the right to call me out on it.

You hate PC culture but believe in everything it stands for? I'm not following your objections here.


Im saying that if I call someone a fat fuck, I shouldnt be corrected by someone saying you cant say that! It should just be understood that Im an asshole and deserve to be punched. No need for there to be some defense force ready to go. Get it?
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A_Good_Boy
10/27/17 10:45:32 PM
#90:


2SweetforTurtle posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...
However, I believe that PC culture as a whole shouldnt exist. Im not saying that nicer ways of saying things shouldnt exist, Im saying that people should have the freedom to act however they damn well please and face whatever consequences arise from their actions. Thats literally free speech. Free speech doesnt mean that I can shout racist terms at people and nobody should say or do anything. Free speech means that I can be an asshole and other people have the right to call me out on it.

You hate PC culture but believe in everything it stands for? I'm not following your objections here.


Im saying that if I call someone a fat fuck, I shouldnt be corrected by someone saying you cant say that! It should just be understood that Im an asshole and deserve to be punched. No need for there to be some defense force ready to go. Get it?

That doesn't make any sense though. You're saying that you believe in free speech and the consequences that it entails. When you insult someone and get criticized for it then other people are exercising their own free speech just as you're exercising your own. There exists no apex use of speech, where you're free to speak your mind and everyone else is obligated to be quiet.

And your response to my comment contradicts the stance you have in the initial quote. You sure you've worked out your opinion regarding free speech and PC culture?
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CiIantro
10/27/17 10:59:55 PM
#91:


andel posted...
CiIantro posted...
26_Sandman_39 posted...
CiIantro posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...
SJWs

Oh look, that name calling that conservatives can't seem to stop doing.


SJWs exist

In your mind. That was just a name made up for conservatives to try to demonize people they disagree with. As far as I am concerned, using the term SJW discredits anyone's argument.


your opinion doesn't really matter, you have no political capital. the vast majority of people dismiss people that are offended by mundane things

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lightwarrior78
10/27/17 11:17:43 PM
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I find the concept paradoxical.

You want me to treat you with respect. That sounds fine, but even if we ignore a lot of derogatory insults lobbed by the people wanting said respect, there's still a problem. Are you treating me with respect as a person if you treat me like an object that has to adhere to your conversational rules? Are you treating me with respect if you fly off the handle in offense if I screw up? Are you treating me with respect if I'm just expected to know that a term is offensive to you if someone else was fine with it (and yes, I've been there. One person asked me to use person of color, another cried racist)? Are you treating me with respect if you are listening in to my private conversation to call out my language? Are you treating me with respect by ignoring the context of what I'm saying to focus on individual words?

PCness is the act of asking for respect, but it's being practiced by spoiled brats that assume everyone in the room is there at their convenience and should adhere to their rules, with is a disrespectful act. I'm not going to concern myself with respecting people that don't respect me.
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kayoticdreamz
10/27/17 11:18:41 PM
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Lol poor liberal making up stuff again
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Esrac
10/28/17 12:05:45 AM
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When you take political correctness to it's eventual extension, you get events like what happened in Rotherham. You get an administration that's so overly concerned with appearing racist or giving political ammunition to nationalists that they can't confront an obvious problem that explicitly concerns a specific demographic behaving badly.

In the case of Rotherham, Pakistani and Pakistani-british men forming literal rape gangs to abuse, rape, groom, and traffic white British girls for years with minimal repercussion. Social service agents that did try to intervene had to attend diversity sensitivity classes. Because specifically going after the demographic causing the problem would be racially insensitive.

Political correctness, at its worst, can prevent authority figures from confronting issues in a practical manner because doing so could be attacked as sexist, racist, etc.

That a how I see it.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/28/17 12:33:00 AM
#95:


who decides the criteria that makes somebody a SJW?
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CiIantro
10/28/17 12:37:53 AM
#96:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
who decides the criteria that makes somebody a SJW?

If conservatives dont like what you say, you are a SJW. Kind of like how any news they dont like is "fake news".
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Axiom
10/28/17 12:39:38 AM
#97:


CiIantro posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
who decides the criteria that makes somebody a SJW?

If conservatives dont like what you say, you are a SJW. Kind of like how any news they dont like is "fake news".

This is true as far as the internet is concerned. You could have a guy calling people racial slurs and the minute you call them out on it you're an SJW
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m_mungmung
10/28/17 12:42:34 AM
#98:


CiIantro posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
who decides the criteria that makes somebody a SJW?

If conservatives dont like what you say, you are a SJW. Kind of like how any news they dont like is "fake news".

Youre being disingenuous.

A social justice warrior is a derogatory term to refer to social justice advocates. The term derives from the fact that many of these types are overzealous and toxic to discourse. Social justice advocates are people pursuing social equity for all, a sympathetic cause that I find myself critical of nevertheless.
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Crazyman93
10/28/17 12:44:37 AM
#99:


CiIantro posted...
If conservatives dont like what you say, you are a SJW. Kind of like how anyone who disagrees with liberals is a racist.

Fixed that for you.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/28/17 12:55:27 AM
#100:


Crazyman93 posted...
CiIantro posted...
If conservatives dont like what you say, you are a SJW. Kind of like how anyone who disagrees with liberals is a racist.

Fixed that for you.


how is this "fix" better?

the generalization implies that those who oppose Liberals only oppose race related issues. what about sexual orientation, financial status, etc...?
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Aelia
10/28/17 1:15:28 AM
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i didn't read topic.

I consider myself center right and I'm not anti-pc.

I have a problem with people silencing opinions they do not agree with.
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