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The Great Muta 22
10/27/17 4:52:31 PM
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/white-supremacists-neo-nazis-descend-tennessee-white-lives-matter-rallies

When a coalition of virulently anti-Semitic and white supremacist groups descend on two middle Tennessee towns Saturday for a day of White Lives Matter rallies, they say they will do so unarmed and with the intention of publicizing their views rather than clashing with counter-protesters.

But given the rash of violent incidents at recent white nationalist events and the rhetoric of some of the leading participants, civil rights groups and city leadership in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville are preparing for the worst.

Look how much real violence and possibility for violence weve seen just in the last couple of events, Heidi Beirich, head of the Southern Poverty Law Centers intelligence project on extremism, told TPM.

Beirich described the groups involved in Saturdays planned rallies as some of the most hardcore and hardline forces in the white nationalist movement, noting that one of the headliners, the neo-Confederate League of the South, has spent the last few years building up a paramilitary force.

This isnt the kind of soft racism of we want a white ethno-state, Beirich said. This is Hitlerian thinking.

Scheduled speakers include the Traditionalist Worker Partys Matthew Heimbach, white nationalist radio host Mike Enoch, League of the South president Michael Hill, and Vanguard Americas Dillon Hopper. A number of those organizations fly under the banner of the Nationalist Front, an umbrella group working to unite pro-White organizations, and several of those participants and groups are currently being sued by the city of Charlottesville, Virginia, for helping to spearhead Augusts violent white nationalist rally there.

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The official event invitation put together by League of the South spokesman and white nationalist blogger Brad Griffin insists that this event will be different and allow them to turn the page on Charlottesville. Reminding participants that masks are forbidden by Tennessee law and that guns are a legal liability, Griffin argued that holding the event in a red county in a red state without a Democrat governor instead of a shitlib city like Charlottesville will reduce the chances of violent clashes with counter-protesters.

Police and local businesses have also taken steps to reduce opportunities for conflict. Law enforcement will cordon off the white nationalists from those who come out to rally against them, search those entering demonstration areas, and have released a list of prohibited items that includes firearms, flagpoles, and spray canssome of the items that caused the most damage in Charlottesville. Many shop owners will simply shutter their stores, reducing the number of people on the sidewalks.

But the militaristic language is still present. The official invitation encourages each Nationalist Front organization to bring its own flag and defensive items, as well as follow its particular dress code (khakis are oddly popular in the movement). League of the South president Michael Hill issued a directive to his followers to turn out, while the Traditionalist Worker Party told its supporters that attendance isnt optional.

Heimbach, that Traditionalist Worker Partys founder, told TPM that the 200-300 participants hes expecting wont face much resistance because their followers understand the importance of hierarchy, of organization and their movement has a large membership in Tennessee and in Appalachia in general.

It makes sense for us to hold our events where our people actually are, he said.

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Another possible point for disruption are the flash mob demonstrations that Heimbach said theyre planning to organize at as-of-yet undisclosed locations throughout the day, which he described as part of a political activist blitzkrieg on middle Tennessee.

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-Unowninator-
10/27/17 4:54:15 PM
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*sigh* people are idiots.
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mario2000
10/27/17 4:54:55 PM
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imagine being the most advantaged demographic and still feeling like you're oppressed

imagine being white
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CelestialVoices
10/27/17 4:55:10 PM
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Griffin argued that holding the event in a red county in a red state without a Democrat governor instead of a shitlib city like Charlottesville will reduce the chances of violent clashes with counter-protesters.


lmao
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Sada_Pop
10/27/17 4:56:44 PM
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Think Admiral will be live streaming it?
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apocalyptic_4
10/27/17 4:57:38 PM
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alt right uprising
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That_Happened
10/27/17 4:59:43 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Think Admiral will be live streaming it?

He may have to ask a friend to hold the cameraphone. He can't live-stream AND give the opening speech.
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_BlueMonk
10/27/17 5:00:08 PM
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where are the all lives matter folks now?
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TheVipaGTS
10/27/17 5:00:55 PM
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Don't call them Nazis it hurts their feelings!
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Bishop9800
10/27/17 5:01:08 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Think Admiral will be live streaming it?


Shit, Addy's on the plane right now heading there.
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-Squanchy-
10/27/17 5:03:04 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Don't call them Nazis it hurts their feelings!

I'm comfortable being called a nazi. You think there's some other word that will hurt my feelings? Yeah, think before you talk shit.

Not my words, honest to squanch.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/27/17 5:04:27 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
where are the all lives matter folks now?


They probably recognize the futility of trying to convince white supremacists that black lives matter too.
And that the name of this rally is mocking BLM and that WLM is not a genuine movement worth discussing.

You realize most ALM and people even engaging in that debate believed in police reform right? That's why they cared, they wanted to participate in a productive way but needed the movement to be palatable enough to stomach.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/27/17 5:05:00 PM
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I know nothing about the people/groups going, are these actual white supremacists or just trolls like Milo who the crazy left immediately plug their ears and scream "racist/sexist/homophobe/misogynist" when their name gets mentioned?

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dT2azmfWl4


Yeah, full on white supremacists
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That_Happened
10/27/17 5:05:58 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You realize most ALM and people even engaging in that debate believed in police reform right? That's why they cared, they wanted to participate in a productive way but needed the movement to be palatable enough to stomach.

It's weird to see people lie like this.
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TheVipaGTS
10/27/17 5:07:47 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You realize most ALM and people even engaging in that debate believed in police reform right? That's why they cared, they wanted to participate in a productive way but needed the movement to be palatable enough to stomach.

lmao nice rewriting of history there.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/27/17 5:08:38 PM
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"Good for them. They are good people." -admiral, mal_fet and many others.
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southcoast09
10/27/17 5:08:44 PM
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mario2000 posted...
imagine being the most advantaged demographic and still feeling like you're oppressed

imagine being white

You mean the one group singled out and repressed? Yeah, affirmative actions really been a great thing for us, OH WAIT
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TheVipaGTS
10/27/17 5:10:27 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
That_Happened posted...
It's weird to see people lie like this.


You're right, it's so much better to lie about a user on this site being at the event himself.

one is a clear joke, the other isn't...you can't tell the difference? no one is "lying" about Admiral being there, they're joking about it. Anarchy is Lying about what the majority of ALL LIVES MATTER people's true intentions were.
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The Great Muta 22
10/27/17 5:10:42 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I know nothing about the people/groups going, are these actual white supremacists or just trolls like Milo who the crazy left immediately plug their ears and scream "racist/sexist/homophobe/misogynist" when their name gets mentioned?


Traditionalist Workers Party, League of the South, Vanguard America, and National Socialst Movement are all explicitly white nationalists, at best. This is less "trolls" and more violent neo nazi's.
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TheVipaGTS
10/27/17 5:13:41 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
one is a clear joke, the other isn't...you can't tell the difference? no one is "lying" about Admiral being there, they're joking about it. Anarchy is Lying about what the majority of ALL LIVES MATTER people's true intentions were.


Oh, the just joking thing, sure.

@The_Admiral - you all cool with these jokes bro?
Forget the passive aggressiveness and clear implications, of course!

oh get off your fuckin high horse.
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The Great Muta 22
10/27/17 5:13:47 PM
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Stolen from a Reddit explanation:

White Lives Matter is a group believed to have been created by Rebecca Barnette, who is also leader of the skinhead group Aryan Strikeforce and the National Socialist Movement (the largest Neo-Nazi organization). A third Barnette-affiliated group, Aryan Renaissance Society, claims to be the leading force behind the WLM movement.

From that alone, it should be pretty obvious that the source of the WLM matter movement isn't average white people. But in case anyone has doubts as to how bad these groups are, let me expand a little bit:

Aryan Strikeforce was indicted in May 2017 of conspiring to transport methamphetamine, money laundering drug proceeds, transfer of unregistered machine gun parts, possession of firearms by convicted felons, and the illegal transfer of firearms to convicted felons.

The NSM call for denying citizenship to Jews, non-Whites, and homosexuals and has committed a laundry list of hate crimes and associated recruitment tactics (ex: they produced a bunch of white power music CDs to sell to school kids).

These are criminal organizations with a long rap sheet and ideologies that go beyond "White Lives Matter" to straight White supremacy. There are additional groups as well with similar goals:

Traditionalist Worker Party - want to form "an independent white ethno-state in North America" in which immigration is "limited to members of the White European Race." Blame "Jewry" for modern mercantilism

League of the South - Call for modern secession, have formed militia

Vanguard America - a white supremacist group that opposes multiculturalism and believes America is an exclusively white nation

A lot of commentators have focused on Black Lives Matters, but these are not groups that exist simply to counter Black Lives Matters. They have a hateful ideology that claim all non-whites should deported/exterminated (though depending on group they also attack Jews, gay people, liberals, northerners, etc.).

"White Lives Matter" is generic enough that many conservatives (and some liberals) falsely believe the group arose as a moderate response to BLM. I want to make it very clear why this isn't an accurate portrayal of the WLM organization, which was explicitly creating by white supremacist groups for rebranding purposes.

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Axiom
10/27/17 5:14:18 PM
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Lmao I'd like to see them try this in Memphis
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That_Happened
10/27/17 5:17:18 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
one is a clear joke, the other isn't...you can't tell the difference? no one is "lying" about Admiral being there, they're joking about it. Anarchy is Lying about what the majority of ALL LIVES MATTER people's true intentions were.


Oh, the just joking thing, sure.

Yeah allow me to deflate the joke by explaining it: I don't actually think Admiral would be present at a neo-Nazi rally, that was a play on his reputation here and I apologize for not adding an emoji that would have made the joke more obvious.

Never thought I'd see the day when Gavi attempted to be the voice of morality!

That was also a joke, you see?
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_BlueMonk
10/27/17 5:23:55 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They probably recognize the futility of trying to convince white supremacists that black lives matter too.

lol ok

Black people: "Black lives matter!"
ALM: "SHUT UP! ALL LIVES MATTER YOU RACIST!"

Neo-Nazi; white supremist: "White lives matter!"
ALM: "ehh... yeah i guess... gonna stay out of this one..."
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The Admiral
10/27/17 7:06:54 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
one is a clear joke, the other isn't...you can't tell the difference? no one is "lying" about Admiral being there, they're joking about it. Anarchy is Lying about what the majority of ALL LIVES MATTER people's true intentions were.


Oh, the just joking thing, sure.

@The_Admiral - you all cool with these jokes bro?
Forget the passive aggressiveness and clear implications, of course!


I know it's a symptom of liberal fragility, so I don't particularly care. If these folks were smart enough to make actual points rather than just cry racist and Nazi all the time, they would.

You'll notice none of the intelligent posters on CE -- even the left-leaning ones -- need to do that.
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 7:55:30 PM
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I don't wanna hear this shit no more

(I don't wanna hear it no motherfuckin' more
You talkin' about motherfuckin' all lives matter)

I don't wanna hear this shit no more

(I don't wanna hear this shit
Nobody is killin' your brothers, your sisters, your father, your mother - nobody is killin' y'all motherfuckers in the street
They killin' us, ......)

I don't wanna hear this shit no more

(The fuck is wrong with you?)
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Delirious_Beard
10/27/17 7:57:52 PM
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The Admiral posted...
liberal fragility


this is becoming my new favorite addy phrase
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:03:28 PM
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main, im fikkin to report dis rasis shit main
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glitteringfairy
10/27/17 8:05:08 PM
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This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:11:51 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro


You know bout Halls?
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:16:10 PM
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why dis topic still up cauz rasis!
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Axiom
10/27/17 8:18:02 PM
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Thrillwell posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro


You know bout Halls?

Halls is such a podunk hick town
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:23:01 PM
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Axiom posted...
Thrillwell posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro


You know bout Halls?

Halls is such a podunk hick town


Heard some shit used to go down there.
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:24:20 PM
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can yall post some white girl pix?
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 8:29:01 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They probably recognize the futility of trying to convince white supremacists that black lives matter too.

lol ok

Black people: "Black lives matter!"
ALM: "SHUT UP! ALL LIVES MATTER YOU RACIST!"

Neo-Nazi; white supremist: "White lives matter!"
ALM: "ehh... yeah i guess... gonna stay out of this one..."


lol
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Axiom
10/27/17 8:30:01 PM
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Thrillwell posted...
Axiom posted...
Thrillwell posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro


You know bout Halls?

Halls is such a podunk hick town


Heard some shit used to go down there.

Like what. That place was the epitome of a small town on life support. There isn't shit to do there except drugs and hang-out in the parking-lot of the local grocery store that I can't remember the name of
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 8:45:27 PM
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there are a lot of people on the internet who should really consider taking some creative writing classes. such imaginations.

I always liked reading some good fiction.
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jayj420
10/27/17 8:47:53 PM
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I wonder how many CEmen will be attending.
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Thrillwell
10/27/17 8:49:38 PM
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Axiom posted...
Thrillwell posted...
Axiom posted...
Thrillwell posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
This is my neck of the woods. My dad lives in Murfreesboro


You know bout Halls?

Halls is such a podunk hick town


Heard some shit used to go down there.

Like what. That place was the epitome of a small town on life support. There isn't shit to do there except drugs and hang-out in the parking-lot of the local grocery store that I can't remember the name of


My friend from Knox, said they still burn crosses there.
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sellerdore
10/27/17 8:51:03 PM
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Good time to play the new Wolfenstein I guess
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/27/17 8:51:14 PM
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jayj420 posted...
I wonder how many CEmen will be attending.


none.

the armchair is too comfy.
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jayj420
10/27/17 8:52:09 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
jayj420 posted...
I wonder how many CEmen will be attending.


none.

the armchair is too comfy.

Yeah I forgot how that involves being physically active... a CEmen's greatest fear.
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Axiom
10/27/17 8:57:01 PM
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Thrillwell posted...
My friend from Knox, said they still burn crosses there.

I suppose it's possible but I never heard about it and I spent a good deal of time there at one point. I mean there was definitely that whole redneck "I hate blacks" culture that some possessed but no more so than any other part of Tennessee. Most significant racial thing that happened was a brawl at a nearby airport at night between black and white kids
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fire_bolt
10/27/17 9:25:23 PM
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Yeah, this is happening literally in my back yard. A lot of the students on campus are concerned for their safety. A number of classes were cancelled today. As far as I know, three groups are showing up: Antifa, White Lives Matter, and Black Lives Matter
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