Current Events > No topic on Ellen Degenerss sexualizing women?

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https://pagesix.com/2017/10/26/ellen-gets-slammed-on-twitter-over-sexist-tweet-to-katy-perry/

Didn't see CE freaking out about this, wanted to share. Mind you, if any man did this as blantantly as this chick, there would be a storm.

What does CE think of this? Is it OK to sexualize andsexually harass women if you are a lesbian?
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What a rotten evil woman!

katy perry's entire career has been about her tits, she was shooting shit out of them in the california girls video lol. that was her whole gimmick and she knew it.

then last year i guess her PR team realized that was not a good look in post "grab her by the pussy" america and made katy perry shave her head and become a feminist, and now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?
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Perry is terrible so I dont really care. Shes a mean bitch.
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Romulox28 posted...

now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?

No, she's not a monster for this.

But I think it's right for people to call out the double standard because a man would be labeled a monster for this.
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Ellen has gotten away for years with being creepy around her hot female guests. People see her as nonthreatening and a comedian so she's given a pass. At least IMO.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Romulox28 posted...

now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?

No, she's not a monster for this.

But I think it's right for people to call out the double standard because a man would be labeled a monster for this.

masticatingman posted...

Ellen has gotten away for years with being creepy around her hot female guests. People see her as nonthreatening and a comedian so she's given a pass. At least IMO.

These are exactly it though. Why is it OK for someone like her to get away with this? A male counterpart would definitely be taken off the air immediately for pulling something like this. The comment, ok, maybe you can brush it away, but the pictures is what really stands out to me. Perry may suck, but she kind of looks uncomfortable in those pix. Lol.

Romulox28 posted...

katy perry's entire career has been about her tits, she was shooting shit out of them in the california girls video lol. that was her whole gimmick and she knew it.

then last year i guess her PR team realized that was not a good look in post "grab her by the pussy" america and made katy perry shave her head and become a feminist, and now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?

I'm not saying she's a monster, but when you take the frontlines and state things like men objectify women and all men are pigs for harassing women and making shauty comments is the wrong thing to do to women, and then you go and pull this...I mean..its extremely hypocritical, and debases any faith in those like myself who stood on neutral ground.

I never cared much for ellen one way or the other, thought she was kind of funny, but this is over the top.
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Ellen is like one of the first people that came out in mainstream entertainment. She got a lifetime pass to do whatever.
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Ellen uses half naked muscle men in her show all the time to make her audience wet
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This is clearly sexual assault as it has come to be defined. She should be held accountable.

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened
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pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

How? What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time, objectified a woman on social media. That's pretty cut and dry. As a male, I want equal treatment. If a male would face reprocussions for saying/doing these things, I want a female to be held accountable in the same exact regards.
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pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

Yep.

FaytlessHearts posted...

What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time, objectified a woman on social media. That's pretty cut and dry. As a male, I want equal treatment.

You'er only helping prove pinkys point.
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That_Happened posted...

pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

Yep.

FaytlessHearts posted...

What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time, objectified a woman on social media. That's pretty cut and dry. As a male, I want equal treatment.

You'er only helping prove pinkys point.

Again, I don't see how. I want a legit explaination how this points that way.

Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about equality? I'm all for it. 100%. But there can't be a double standard if people want to actually get there.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time,

By the way, listen to Ellen tear into men here:

This is not a male thing or a female thing, it is not a Hollywood or political thing, this is a human thing and it happens in the workplace, it happens in families, it happens all over the world and we are all the same, she said. We all want the same thing, we want respect, love and kindness. And if I could have those three things and an iPhone X, Id be happy.

OMG. She EVISCERATED men with that statement.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

How? What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time, objectified a woman on social media. That's pretty cut and dry. As a male, I want equal treatment. If a male would face reprocussions for saying/doing these things, I want a female to be held accountable in the same exact regards.

So in other words yes, you don't give a fuck about what happened but it makes you mad that something appeared to happen that you apparently wouldn't be allowed to do yourself.
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pinky0926 posted...

it makes you mad that something appeared to happen that you apparently wouldn't be allowed to do yourself.

And yet, when feminists feel this way you probably go "yaaas bitch, slay!"
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FaytlessHearts posted...

Again, I don't see how. I want a legit explaination how this points that way.

Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about equality? I'm all for it. 100%. But there can't be a double standard if people want to actually get there.

Ok. Do you possibly understand why a white person would not get away with saying the n-word but a black person would, and why you not being allowed to say it is not in fact "reverse racism"?

Ellen is a woman with tits of her own, in case you had forgotten.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Romulox28 posted...

now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?

No, she's not a monster for this.

But I think it's right for people to call out the double standard because a man would be labeled a monster for this.

While I agree, people also should stop being so goddamn fucking sensitive. Imagine getting bent out of shape, because of a joke someone else madez that wasn't even aimed at you, but you still went oit of your way to be offended.
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pinky0926 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

How? What happened is that a femenist who preaches how wrong men are all the time, objectified a woman on social media. That's pretty cut and dry. As a male, I want equal treatment. If a male would face reprocussions for saying/doing these things, I want a female to be held accountable in the same exact regards.

So in other words yes, you don't give a fuck about what happened but it makes you mad that something appeared to happen that you apparently wouldn't be allowed to do yourself.

So again though...the whole point of this. If a male figure did this, there would be severe reprocussions. Are you both saying "Yes, 100% there would be reprocussions for a male counterpart acting/saying/doing the exact same thing?

I'm just posing the question. She didn't offend me. However, with all the sexual harassment stuff going on, why would you do something like this? And why is it OK for her, but not OK for people like stephen colbert (Sorry, I don't know many hosts, I personally dislike colbert just using a name as an example) or any other tv show host.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

So again though...the whole point of this. If a male figure did this, there would be severe reprocussions. Are you both saying "Yes, 100% there would be reprocussions for a male counterpart acting/saying/doing the exact same thing?

See post 18.
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Another point here is that they are well known friends.

In a similar manner to my previous point, you might get to a point where your really close black friends don't mind you saying the n word in certain contexts. Like as a joke, to which they understand your intent (or lack of intent). That wouldn't give you a license to go and say it to whoever, though.
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pinky0926 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

Again, I don't see how. I want a legit explaination how this points that way.

Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about equality? I'm all for it. 100%. But there can't be a double standard if people want to actually get there.

Ok. Do you possibly understand why a white person would not get away with saying the n-word but a black person would, and why you not being allowed to say it is not in fact "reverse racism"?

Ellen is a woman with tits of her own, in case you had forgotten.

Didn't see this post. Thanks for pointing it out pink.

I have not forgotten. The correlation though is irrelevant. This isn't about race or even gender. This is simply about equality. It doesn't seem like there would be equal reprocussions.
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pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

It certainly seems that way
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She is a degenerate
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Only men are expected to be held to that high of a standard.
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We are going to go back to the puritans era where no mention of sexuality is allowed
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FaytlessHearts posted...

The correlation though is irrelevant. This isn't about race or even gender. This is simply about equality. It doesn't seem like there would be equal reprocussions.

This is absolutely about gender, which is clear to everyone when the argument starts with "but if a MAN did it".

If I'm honest, I think you're avoiding the point because you understand on some level that there's a clear difference between a black person and a white person saying the n-word, but don't want to apply similar logic to the difference between a man and a woman making a joke about breasts.

Also female friends making jokes about breasts, to be clear.
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pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

Black462 posted...

She is a degenerate

An Ellen Degenerate
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pinky0926 posted...

Another point here is that they are well known friends.

Oh for fuck's sake. Lol.

So a friend made a comment about another friend's boobs on social media? This is such a non-issue.
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That_Happened posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Another point here is that they are well known friends.

Oh for fuck's sake. Lol.

So a friend made a comment about another friend's boobs on social media? This is such a non-issue.

You can thank that trash asshole Piers Morgan for stirring up shit just to plug his personal brand.
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pinky0926 posted...

You can thank that trash asshole Piers Morgan for stirring up shit just to plug his personal brand.

Fucking trasholes, man.
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She wants to reveal what the whole world wants to see: Katy Perry's boobies.

She's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now >_>
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FaytlessHearts posted...

I'm just posing the question. She didn't offend me. However, with all the sexual harassment stuff going on, why would you do something like this? And why is it OK for her, but not OK for people like stephen colbert (Sorry, I don't know many hosts, I personally dislike colbert just using a name as an example) or any other tv show host.

At best you could say the timing is a little insensitive timing-wise and the comment crass, and I think that's all you've really got. They're mates, and she made a sassy joke to her friend. That's the entire thing in a nutshell.

Rather than directing your anger at this, why not focus on something more like how men who are sexually abused are taken less seriously? I think that's a fair and genuine point of concern of the kind of unfair treatment that men receive.
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I've always thought Degeneres was a stupid last name

also wtf did Portia De Rossi do to her face?
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FaytlessHearts posted...

I'm just posing the question. She didn't offend me.

pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

Literally. PROVING PINKY RIGHT.
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Romulox28 posted...

katy perry's entire career has been about her tits, she was shooting shit out of them in the california girls video lol. that was her whole gimmick and she knew it.

then last year i guess her PR team realized that was not a good look in post "grab her by the pussy" america and made katy perry shave her head and become a feminist, and now all of a sudden ellen is some kind of monster here for making a joke about katy's image for the last 10 years?

Its kinda funny that she started off doing Christian stuff and realized that didnt work so she decided to talk about kissing a girl, and I guess now shes going back to her old ways. Pretty hilarious.

And Ellen is part of the cant hate on them crowd, a lady and a lesbian. Its best to just let them do whatever they want.
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@Going_Deep_08
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masticatingman posted...

Ellen has gotten away for years with being creepy around her hot female guests. People see her as nonthreatening and a comedian so she's given a pass. At least IMO.

Ding ding ding. Her begavior is mildly predatory, and while the power dynamic certainly is different than it would be were it a straight cisman acting like this, it's still a shitty way to be.
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I think people are reading into this way to much.
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pinky0926 posted...

This whole thing screams of men desperate to point the finger rather than actually giving a fuck about what happened

But also this
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So from what I gathered, it's 100% alright to post on social media for the world to see, something that highly sexualizes and demeans a woman, but only if you are friends. Cuz they didn't really mean it, but they posted it for the world to see anyway.

That is what at least 2 users in this topic are saying.
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pinky0926 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

Again, I don't see how. I want a legit explaination how this points that way.

Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about equality? I'm all for it. 100%. But there can't be a double standard if people want to actually get there.

Ok. Do you possibly understand why a white person would not get away with saying the n-word but a black person would, and why you not being allowed to say it is not in fact "reverse racism"?

Ellen is a woman with tits of her own, in case you had forgotten.

If Katy Perry came out and said that this made her feel uncomfortable, would you consider it sexual harassment?
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FaytlessHearts posted...

So from what I gathered, it's 100% alright to post on social media for the world to see, something that highly sexualizes and demeans a woman, but only if you are friends. Cuz they didn't really mean it, but they posted it for the world to see anyway.

That is what at least 2 users in this topic are saying.

What you should gather is that context is important to whether something is acceptable or not, and purposefully distorting the context so you can paint yourself as some kind of victim over something that has nothing to do with you just makes you sort of look like a bitch. And I'm sure you're not a bitch, but just telling you how that looks right now.
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Anony1125 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

Again, I don't see how. I want a legit explaination how this points that way.

Isn't the whole thing supposed to be about equality? I'm all for it. 100%. But there can't be a double standard if people want to actually get there.

Ok. Do you possibly understand why a white person would not get away with saying the n-word but a black person would, and why you not being allowed to say it is not in fact "reverse racism"?

Ellen is a woman with tits of her own, in case you had forgotten.

If Katy Perry came out and said that this made her feel uncomfortable, would you consider it sexual harassment?

According to above posters, no. Even id perry complained about it, there are people who think it's okay.
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Anony1125 posted...

If Katy Perry came out and said that this made her feel uncomfortable, would you consider it sexual harassment?

I'd consider it an inappropriate comment and expect Ellen to apologise, which I'm sure she would.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

but only if you are friends.

it's almost like context matters
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pinky0926 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

So from what I gathered, it's 100% alright to post on social media for the world to see, something that highly sexualizes and demeans a woman, but only if you are friends. Cuz they didn't really mean it, but they posted it for the world to see anyway.

That is what at least 2 users in this topic are saying.

What you should gather is that context is important to whether something is acceptable or not, and purposefully distorting the context so you can paint yourself as some kind of victim over something that has nothing to do with you just makes you sort of look like a bitch. And I'm sure you're not a bitch, but just telling you how that looks right now.

I'm not distorting anything. I'm plainly saying that if ANY male on television posted a strikingly similar photo of a female "friend" or counterpart with those words, the male would be in deep water. Am I right or wrong on this?

Regardless of if they were friends or not, or even had permission to do so. I understand the context completely, but why feel the need to post something like this for the world to see, during all these allegations? Why couldn't she send her friend a private message? Why couldn't she just leave it at a formal in person happy birthday comment?
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